hvac single speed fan
hvac single speed fan
My hvac wiring harness is all hacked up and the resistor pack is gone. I want to wire up the heater motor on a rocker switch. IS tere any way to do this and get a single speed blower going? having two speeds would be nice. Also the high speed relay has long been gone.
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Re: hvac single speed fan
If you don't you are going to need a relay
see
http://92b4crs.tripod.com/86wiring/dia-pics/63-0.jpg
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Re: hvac single speed fan
No..... You don't want to wire without a relay......
I threw this together for ya;

You can get a relay at any auto parts store......
I threw this together for ya;

You can get a relay at any auto parts store......
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Re: hvac single speed fan
Only the low current power went through the fan speed switch ( via the resistor pack ) The full batt power for Hi speed fan was switched through the blower relay because as noted it could burn up the switch and wiring ( and your car
)So using Restrorob's diagram above
you put a switch on the existing brown wire and wire it to terminal 86 on the new relay to operate it
Then you get 12V from a good source (with a 30A fuse ) run it to terminal 87 on relay then wire from terminal 85 to the fan motor
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Re: hvac single speed fan
The best place to find the 12v source for the fan is at the junction box usually located next to the battery. Follow a wire attached to the positive side of the battery and that will lead you to an insolated, mounted bolt that has several wires attached to it. Those are constant hot. Disconnect the battery before messing with the terminal .If you touch ground and a live wire with a wrench you could get hurt. Tap into that for your power to the relay # 30 prong. The 30amp fuse goes on that wire fairly close to the source.
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the picture is awesome. thank you. can you translate it to my exsisting harness? where could a get the ground, 12v power, 12v switched power, i guess i am asking to tell me how the colors match up? i think i can use the wires that are still in the car. and id just be putting arelay in the place of the resistor pack? i really appreciate it.
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everything is still in place up to the resistor pack. which the guy cut out and threw away. so I am assuming the blue wire is my medium speed hot wire? I run that into the 30 terminal? then a lead to the fan motor? then ow do i wire up te ground? is there anything there to wire into, or do i just run new wires?
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I am assuming the blue wire is my medium speed hot wire? Never assume anything when dealing with electrical. You need a 12 volt circuit test light or multimeter to test for power and grounds, If that blue wire is powered up when the key is on by the OEM dash blower switch it needs to go to terminal 86 on the relay.
I run that into the 30 terminal? then a lead to the fan motor? No......
I run that into the 30 terminal? then a lead to the fan motor? No......
then ow do i wire up te ground? is there anything there to wire into, or do i just run new wires?
With a test light; Hook to positive battery post, Probe the cut wires, If the light illuminates that probed wire is a ground source.
With a multimeter set on DC volts; Put pos. (red) test lead on pos. battery post, Probe wires with neg. (black) test lead, If the meter shows battery voltage the probed wire is a ground source.
Go back and slowly read vetteoz and Ron's post again, They summed up pretty well what you need to do....... Take your time and study the diagram as well......
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Originally Posted by crazybird
having two speeds would be nice. Also the high speed relay has long been gone.

‘D’ in the schematic will actually be a few diodes in series.
You can decide what speed you want the lower speed to by VIA the quantity of diodes.
I would start with 3, then add or subtract as desired.
Of course you can use a resistor in the same manner.
When ordering the diodes or resistor make sure you get them rated for enuff current.
Originally Posted by crazybird
ow do i wire up te ground?
The relay grounds can be almost any metal object in the engine compartment.
The best way to check if something will make a good ground is connecting one lead of an ohmmeter to the ▬ battery terminal, then probe the areas (not wires) that are conveniently located to use as a ground.
A proper location will show 0 ohms (0Ω).
You can mount your 2 new relays where the old one used to be.
That will make it easier to route the wiring also.
Terminals 30 needs to go to the source of power.
Terminals 87 go to the blower.
Terminals 85 go to the selector switch, to the color indicated on the schematic.
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Restrorob’s pic of the relay shows the numbers in different locations than the actual relay, therefore if you go with his single speed only diagram make sure you follow the numbers, but not the location the pic would have you believe.
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That is pretty awesome! I found some one who has a resistor pack he will give me. so i may not need to do any wiring. can i get a pigtail at auto zone? or junk yard? also can i relocate the resistor pack? i know it gets hot, but how hot? can i mount in the dash?
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Originally Posted by crazybird
I found some one who has a resistor pack………can i get a pigtail at auto zone? or junk yard?
If not, you can measure the resistors, purchase new ones at a higher wattage rating, then they will never fail.
Originally Posted by crazybird
can i relocate the resistor pack? i know it gets hot, but how hot? can i mount in the dash?
You can relocate them in the breeze of the coolant fan.
You could even relocate the after the blower so when the blower is on they are being “self cooled”.
They’re not going to make so much heat that they will affect the AC, and when the AC blower is on HI the resistors are not even being used.
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Re: hvac single speed fan
rockauto has a bunch of connectors and parts for these cars including the resistor with included pigtail for 12 bucks
DORMAN Part # 973430 {#526897}
Includes Connector; Air Conditioning
DORMAN Part # 973430 {#526897}
Includes Connector; Air Conditioning
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Re: hvac single speed fan
i dont personally know where it supposed to be my hvac went in the trash like 15yrs ago. but i know some of those have to be in the air stream to keep cool and that looks like one of those from the pics on rock auto
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