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Old 07-28-2017, 03:59 PM
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What is this doohickie?

Hi all
below pic is of an item that was cut from the power source to the engine compartment light in my 85 camaro. The ques are what is this and what function does it perform and also how do you take it apart so i can properly splice the wire?

also, can some experts also look at my latest "2 "bulb" fix questions" thread and comment on my unclosed issue with the blower motor not working in HI?
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Re: What is this doohickie?

It is a fuseholder. It's for the underhood light.

DON'T re-install the factory that. It's NOTORIOUS for causing dead batteries. All it is, is a "tilt switch" kind of thing; it frequently gets turned on by parking on a hill. Instead, throw a battery-powered LED light of some kind in your glove box. It'll work about a thousand times better and will never cause your car's battery to go dead.

I've told I don't know how many people how many times about the high-speed blower problem. Do an Advanced Search of All forums, All dates, for the word "ashes" and my userID. They'll have everything you need to know.
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Re: What is this doohickie?

thanks king I did as you suggested and read & copied many of your instructions for future use. I saw Jim Rockford of files fame or at least his picture, posting away at his age, and driving a 3rd gen-whodathunkit!

So the thick red wire only controls the hi speed, not 1-2 speed, or 3 if you had it correct?

Also-hear you on the battery and also the utility of a bulb hanging on the rear of the hood to provide light to fix a problem at night. I would however like to mount the thing and make sure it works and then put the bulb in the glove box also.

So, my question is does this come apart without ruining it so I can get a cleaner looking splice AND where exactly is this supposed to be mounted so it potentially performs the function designed to light the bulb when the hood is lifted I assume.

thanks for your continued help to me and many many others for many years
ps did you see my post WOW- MAJOR HP ADDER-without nitrous or turbo? I now think that this offended many people due to lack of reply, which was NOT MY INTENT-let me know if you think this is the case and I'll issue apology.
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Re: What is this doohickie?

In my opinion the original underwood lights don't light up anything that really helps. This is what I replaced my light with. As you can see, I can choose whether I wan to use lights on the left or right or both. I also put them on the slanted part so that they shine into the bay and not just out.



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This is what I replaced my light with.
VERY nice. Are they just strips of LEDs?
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I agree with your comment and love your setup! and it sure beats hanging a trouble light in one of the many slots available, cause it never points where you want it! I usually solve this with "daylight" if i can

However, other than your beautiful display of what "can" be done if you put your mind and wallet into it, I still have unanswered questions on "my" thread
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Re: What is this doohickie?

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I agree with your comment and love your setup! and it sure beats hanging a trouble light in one of the many slots available, cause it never points where you want it! I usually solve this with "daylight" if i can

However, other than your beautiful display of what "can" be done if you put your mind and wallet into it, I still have unanswered questions on "my" thread
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Sofa told you what it is and Penrod hinted at how you can make the light better.

It looks like somebody previously cut that wire and you are asking how to splice that wire? is that right?
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I believe these were my exact words

"So the thick red wire only controls the hi speed, not 1-2 speed, or 3 if you had it correct?

Also-hear you on the battery and also the utility of a bulb hanging on the rear of the hood to provide light to fix a problem at night. I would however like to mount the thing and make sure it works and then put the bulb in the glove box also.

So, my question is does this come apart without ruining it so I can get a cleaner looking splice AND where exactly is this supposed to be mounted so it potentially performs the function designed to light the bulb when the hood is lifted I assume."
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ps since you are also a supreme member "did you see my post WOW- MAJOR HP ADDER-without nitrous or turbo? I now think that this offended many people due to lack of reply, which was NOT MY INTENT-let me know if you think this is the case and I'll issue apology. This was also a quote from my post. (Note to splice a wire you cut off about 1/2" of the insulator surrounding it on both sides of the wire to be joined. then twist the 2 wires together tightly in a clockwise manner and then wrap electrical tape around the bare wire and approx 1/4 inch past. However this is not the only way and may not be the preferred method but should get the bulb to light up at least for a while)

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Re: What is this doohickie?

Electrical tape is very 1985. Weatherproof heatshrink tube is the way to go.
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another great post not replying to the questions posed-but i go farther back to 68-74 street scene. Also,to be further anoying which one of your 5 listed vehicles runs 12.30 (1/4 not 1/8 mile at 115 still today w/o the nitrous or turbo "crutch. Also, if you can, pls reply to my 700r4 tv cable post if your knowledgeable on that subject also
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Originally Posted by tom1985
another great post not replying to the questions posed-but i go farther back to 68-74 street scene. Also,to be further anoying which one of your 5 listed vehicles runs 12.30 (1/4 not 1/8 mile at 115 still today w/o the nitrous or turbo "crutch. Also, if you can, pls reply to my 700r4 tv cable post if your knowledgeable on that subject also
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LOL Eat feces you old phuk. I wouldn't **** on you if you were on fire now. Good luck finding help with your shitty attitude.
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Re: What is this doohickie?

I should come apart because it's a fuse. You should be able to pul it apart and then try and push the wire through to see if you can work with it.




I google image search of the light shows how the light is mounted on the hood.


The thick red wire is only for the fan high speed. The other speeds go through the resistor. Here is a picture of the diagram for that part.


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Thanks G.
I still don't know where the fuse thing (tilt switch?) mounts. On my 85 the uncut side of the black/dk red wire comes from 1 side of a 2 prong connector that has a thick red wire coming out the other prong and it has a metal "mount bracket" attached, so I screwed it in the the firewall hole where it appeared to go. However, the dr red doohickie wire is short on the uncut side coming out of the connector and could not be mounted on the hood, where you would think if it's a tilt switch kind of thing it would need to mount to trigger the light going on when lifted. As you have this on your car, can you see where the doohickie mounts?

Sorry "Drew", I was out of line in reply to your post.
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I just realized that the car in your last post was not yours, I think, so you don't have the light

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In your other post Bob88GTA said he thinks the mercury switch is in the bulb housing, unfortunately I can't confirm that. The fuse is connected to a 2 prong connector to get the power then routes up to the light. Here is a pic of it connected to that connector. This is the same connector for the fan hi switch.


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Based on your last pic I just pried the thing apart and correct is is a fuse holder, also had to pull very hard with long nose to remove it. No way to push out the wire or fuse connector within to fix, so I'll just splice and be done with it. (fuse was OK and said SFE 4 -whatever that means)

I also took a pic of the bulb holder for the engine light. There is very little room for some kind of merc switch, would need to be in the bulb base rubber portion, which i doubt could fit.

So I'll move on with this and get to other stuff needed. In addition to these pics i have included some of my car pics to demonstate I am really really am old school as accused.
thanks for all your help guys and no hard feelings here.
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Re: What is this doohickie?

If you still want to keep with the original light you could throw in a small switch to turn it on and off.

Also, that is a very clean, nice looking Camaro you got there. I hope to have my engine bay that clean one day.
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thanks G
I thought you'd like my ss lemans. You're close with yours from what I see. Your blue was my original color too which I just changed 3 months ago. I had the heads off for a valve job and took all wiring and everything else out that I could to sandblast and paint separately, bolts included, cause it all was rusted to crap or covered with aftermarket undercoating. Obviously the emissions wiring and stuff out helps alot, as it took about 3 days of taking off stuff to get to the valve covers.
I think the black painted "bottles" also help, the white ones kinda look out of place, I think.

I am trying to figure out (another post from a while ago) how to cleanly mount the A/c, on the 85 with a clutch fan the hoses run on top of the fan shroud in a poorly designed way from the pass side firewall to the drivers head. Compressor is attached with approx 10 brackets, which I'm just thinking about trying to figure out where they all go. Not going serpentine though, too much money/time, so I'll likely install it the original way unless I can get the hoses under the shroud which I've seen on a few trans ams, although they had electric fans. My cars are just for garage/cruise nights at this point in my old life.
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Well, finally success with the engine comp light. Spliced up the doohicky and hooked it up, AND after I remembered I had disconnected the battery, the bulb shined brightly, enough to light up my whole garage! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!! kidding

Magically, when you lower the hood about a foot the light does go off. there must be something in the 1/2" rubber end where the wire comes out that does this, hard to believe though. Who knows though what is going on when the hood is fully closed.

If you don't have one of these gems, I suggest you don't run out and get one. Now that it's working, I disconnected it cause at car shows I leave the hood open.

Here's a couple of pics for posterity
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"So the thick red wire only controls the hi speed, not 1-2 speed, or 3"

CORRECT!
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F41 with a rear wiper. Please keep it going on the road.


I just took out the bulb from the under hood light. The LED surround does look very cool.
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whats so great about f41 with rear wiper?

I am 2nd owner, bought in 1998 or so, The 1st owner was a guy I hired at work in 1975 and now a long time friend, He picked alot of good options as he ordered what he wanted. I have the sales invoice listing everything with the codes as well as shop manual from 85 that he bought. I thought the f41 was merely a suspension option, can you tell me more, if anything else to tell?
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p.s. leave the bulb and just undo the connector by the bulb housing
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the thick red wire inside the connector behind the pass valve cover is fine, so according to sofa , i think, it must be the connector under the dash, about a foot up, which appears to require removing the console, and other stuff and working under the dash (upside down) for a couple of hours. - Not what this 641/2 yr old can do. A/c is still not installed, I guess I'm gonna put it back the sh@tt# way it was designed (with hoses running on top of fan shroud) and the 7 brackets needed to mount. If the mid speed is not good enough, assuming the a/c ever does get to work, maybe some direct wiring scheme can be done instead to bypass under dash wiring?? 1st things 1st.

HOWEVER, as I recall, when a friend of mine (mechanic) looked at it originally, he pulled the "relay" the square thing and I believe jumped a couple of terminals on the connector and the HI speed worked! - He at the time said it must be the relay which I tried with no luck a while ago. Any knowledge of why this "jump" would generate the Hi speed if other wiring was at fault AND how to jump this on the connector would be appreciated as well. I don't see this guy much anymore as he lives far far away.
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whats so great about f41 with rear wiper?

I am 2nd owner, bought in 1998 or so, The 1st owner was a guy I hired at work in 1975 and now a long time friend, He picked alot of good options as he ordered what he wanted. I have the sales invoice listing everything with the codes as well as shop manual from 85 that he bought. I thought the f41 was merely a suspension option, can you tell me more, if anything else to tell?
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p.s. leave the bulb and just undo the connector by the bulb housing


I'm partial to 1985-87 Sport Coupes and Berlinetta models. You're right, it was a suspension option but just find it odd how GM went ahead and created that decal for the back bumper to call it out. Rear wiper? Well not that many that I have seen and understand they were more popular in the mid-west and east coast.
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thanks my87 and what is an LT? I know 55 chevies and 65 Lemans and big-block chevy from the good OLD days not camaro talk, or wiring stuff either
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p.s. you can buy a decal for under $40 if you call them to reduce shipping and it's perfect for my car as everything almost is either gray or black now-need a different manual antenna as i bought a cheap crome one, need black-I had to replace the decal as it was ok but easier for the body/painter to deal with.

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An option on the 1987 Camaro Sport Coupe with standard custom cloth interior (optional leather), AC, LT (Luxury Touring) badges on the sail panels, specific stripes, 14" steel wheels with full hubcaps, or the berlinetta wheels painted in silver and argent, lockable rear cover, Z28/IROC steering wheel non leather covered, standard V6 optional V8 with automatic only.


Unlike the berlinetta it tried to replace, it was not a separate model.
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Thanks LT -nice options -
your car looks 1/2 gray/silver and 1/2 yellow in your little pic. post a couple pics when you get a chance
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The yellow is just the reflection of the sun. My car is gunmetal gray with the red stripes around the windows and around the lower perimeter of the car just above the black accent paint. Red interior and my car is almost fully loaded with the exception of power antenna and rear defroster. I added the interior roof console, factory fog lights, auto dim mirror and power seat. It had the factory Bose radio in it too.
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sounds great LT
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