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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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Car: 1988 trans am
Engine: 5.7 gm H.O. crate engine
Transmission: 700r4
just got a $3000 loan...

and i have 500 in the bank, its time for me to buy a 350. since my engoine crapped out, i have to.

im going with a gm 350 HO Crate Engine - http://www.paceperformance.com/produ...39&1=241&3=886

Carb - http://store.summitracing.com/partde...=22225&from=MG

intake manifold - http://store.summitracing.com/partde...=14331&from=MG

afpr - http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=7607&from=MG

distributor - http://store.summitracing.com/partde...=33337&from=MG

Does this seem like a decent setup? what should i change? What should i add? Do you know a site with better prices? if all goes well, i will be ordering it tomorrow
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Car: 1988 trans am
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is that intake manifold ok for the heads? i will also add an intake manifold gasket to the list. is there a place where i can buy all new radiator hoses?
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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What setup does your old 305 have?
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Looks like a nice setup, but I think you need a Vortec style intake manifold to bolt onto those heads.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
The Pace site shows the correct intake manifold. And gaskets. Summit wants $2 more for the manifold than Pace is asking.

It costs $125 more than the Holley, but the BG Crate Demon DP carb would be a very nice piece (VS version $40 less than the DP). Already calibrated for you.

Of course you've set aside another $700 for exhaust. Plus air cleaner, spark plugs & wires, radiator hoses, thermostat, antifreeze, oil,...

Hope no Smog ***** will be looking under your hood.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Car: 1988 trans am
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Originally posted by five7kid
The Pace site shows the correct intake manifold. And gaskets. Summit wants $2 more for the manifold than Pace is asking.

It costs $125 more than the Holley, but the BG Crate Demon DP carb would be a very nice piece (VS version $40 less than the DP). Already calibrated for you.

Of course you've set aside another $700 for exhaust. Plus air cleaner, spark plugs & wires, radiator hoses, thermostat, antifreeze, oil,...

Hope no Smog ***** will be looking under your hood.
then ill get the intake manifold and gasket that they show. but wil lthe carb i put up, bolt on? i want mechanical secondaries and a manual choke, and it seemed like the best option. 650 cfm good? also, is there somewhere online that i can buy the all new hoses? thanks everyone
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Yes

The Holley 650 DP will fit and work fine. Though you might be better off with a 600 DP - I believe that they're slightly less expensive and will keep up with the fuel demands of a 330 HP engine (probably crisper throttle response). Keep in mind what five7kid said. You left quite a few expensive items off of your shopping list. Not to mention all of the little things that will nickel and dime you to death. As for buying hoses online, your better off getting that stuff locally - save money on shipping/handling.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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make sure you get a vortec manifold with a square bore carb mount (as opposed to the spread bore performer)
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Per the Performer manifold product description on the Pace website: "Accepts both square-bore and spread-bore carbs...". Like all other Performer manifolds.

The 650 DP is fine. People tend to over-carb, and with mechanical secondaries, that can be a killer.

I think you'd be happier with the Demon, but it's your money. You would have to add a choke, admittedly.

Hoses would be the same as you have now. When the engine is removed, it's a good idea to replace them (easier to do then, once disturbed they're more likely to fail, etc.). Best to get them from your local parts store, although a place like carparts.com or partsamerica.com would do as well.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Car: 1988 trans am
Engine: 5.7 gm H.O. crate engine
Transmission: 700r4
im gonna go with the holly dp because its cheaper and it will work fine, with the carb, will i have to also get
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=SUM%2DG3140A


also, what headers can u get that will fit with no modification to anything important. i am going to re-do the whole exhaust system so it doesnt matter if they're long tubes. the only real thing that concernes me is running the new fuel line.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Actually, I think you want http://store.summitracing.com/partde...HLY%2D34%2D150
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Car: 1988 trans am
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Originally posted by five7kid
Actually, I think you want http://store.summitracing.com/partde...HLY%2D34%2D150
isnt the only difference the fact that it comes with a fuel pressure guage?
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
The one you linked says it's for 4010/4011 type carbs. You're looking to buy a 4150.

To be honest with you, I don't know whether that line will work with a 4150. Might want to call Summit & ask (or perhaps someone knows for sure).
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Here is a great deal for $3000.00

http://forum.ls1truck.com/index.php?...t=0&#entry2273
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