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02 LS1 Motor from yahoo auctions (WARNING!!! EBAY AND YAHOO AUCTION SCAMS!!!)

Old 10-09-2003, 10:08 AM
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02 LS1 Motor from yahoo auctions (WARNING!!! Careful on EBAY and YAHOO!!!)

Hey guys,

I got told you may beable to help me. I tried buying a LS1 from a 02 ss car. I was going to stuff it in place of my tiredTPI in my iroc. I found one on yahoo auctions which was 1900 with a 6 T-56 6 speed. Did anyone else here about this auction, know about who had it etc. I bought it, sent the money, and they stiffed me....They never sent the stuff, so now I'm motorless and pennyless... Does anyone out here know anything that may help me....like some names, and where there at. I know the seller was Doug Branch or maybe a Greggory Pitts and I think this guy is somewhere from the Michigan area. I have a few different names for him, and a few different addresses. There is a reward out for helping me find the parties involved.

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That would **** me off. I would freak if that happened to me!!! If you find him, save a piece for me. I will drive from Canada just to deal with this clown in person!!
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did you pay him through pay pal or what? i HOPE you didnt send him a money order or cash...=\ sorry to hear wut happened to you... kinda sucks that there are ppl like that in this world
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I remember seeing a post on here about it. Dont think it had much info, though.

Scratch that... whats the address?
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It says that he accepts checks...did you pay with a check. If so see if it has been cashed yet and if not get your bank to void it before it hits. Sorry to hear about that one.....I smell Kick him in the nuts if you ever get ahold of him
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I wired him money out of my checking. The bank told me that was the easiest, and most proper way of doing it. Now they tell me as of yesterday, that one its wired, there is no going back. I even tryed to pull of a stunt with the bank that he never received the money. So I got them to trace it, to see if its in anyones account, and they said they may beable to get me a real name and address of the account to get ahold of him. I have a few sticks in the fire, but I want to be sure that I wack the right person in the head with the new bat that I bought for when I meet up with him.

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Technology is great....but there is no substitute for material documentation...check stubs, receipts. Sorry to hear about that man, hopefully you'll get your sh*t. 1900 for a LS1 and T56 combo, awesome deal.....good luck.
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Sorry to hear about this. Get the police involved. The money had to go to some account. I am sure they can follow the money trail.
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Man that sucks, I was almost decided on buying an engine from EBAY also. Some times you can find it a bit cheaper, buy remember most of the time your not dealing with a company but a person. And if it sounds to good to be true maybe it is?
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Man sorry to hear about that....I saw that exact same setup for sale on ebay for $2300...I emailed the guy to buy it now at $2300 and he didnt get back to me till after the auction stopped at $3,050. Funny thing was he still had no problem with me buying the motor tranny at 2300 . Then when i got the instructions for the payment, I knew it was a scam. The auction said it was shipping from sounthern cali but the payment instructions were for an account in the Russian Republic. LOL glad I didnt bite and sad soemone else got taken.

Here is a cut and paste of the email he sent meif that helps you out any.

Dear Sir,

If you want to buy this engine then you will need to wire the payment to
bank account below. To make the payment you can use INTERNET BANKING but if
you haven't such service with your bank then you have to go to your bank
directly and tell to your banker that you would like to wire the funds via
S.W.I.F.T. to the bank account below and please don't make any mistakes:

_______________________________________________________________________

AMOUNT: 2300 USD


Beneficiary name Finex bank A.D., Branch of Trust Company Americas, acc.
005413"
Account # 165575312/0300
Beneficiary Bank
Beneficiary Bank ABA or SWIFT...
CEKOCZPP
Beneficiary Bank Name
CSOB branch net IPB
Beneficiary Bank Address
City Stat Country
Prague cz CZ

intermediary bank information
intermediary Beneficiary Bank ABA or SWIFT...
CHASUS33
intermediary Bank Name Beneficiary's Bank account in intermediary Bank
JPMorgan Chase Bank 400-801132
intermediary Bank Address
City Stat Country
New York NY USA


_______________________________________________________________________

Important thing!!! Once the wire transfer has been sent you must ask your
banker about SWIFT WIRE TRANSFER DOCUMENT. Please scan this document and
send it to me via email. I will send it to our bank and they will be able
to deposit your payment in short period of time. Bank wire transfer will
take about 3-5 business days but if my bank will have this document then
your payment will arrive during 2-3 days. Please don't forget to send it to
me.

Once your payment arrive the engine will be shipped in same day to the
address that you'll indicate. Please give me your full shipping address.
Will be used ODFL Ground 3-5 business days. Tracking number will be
provided.

OR

Please scan the document that you will need to fill up and send it to me. I
will write details of the bank account on this document without mistakes.
Then you will write same document in the bank and bank will send wire
transfer. So we will sure that everything will be ok.

Thank you.
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Hey for all of you ZR1 guys with some cash to burn:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2438630920
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Holy.... Isnt 3000 alittle low for an LT5???? I saw one at Summer Carlisle for 15,000! I dont think Ive ever seen one that low before. Someone needs to jump on that and shove it into a 3rd gen quick!

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Old 10-21-2003, 12:10 AM
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I don't even want to imagine the fabrication needed to get that thing to fit!

It would be sweet though, oh so sweet.
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:52 AM
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It's been done before, but not often obviously. Though if all LT5s were only 3000 it might be as popular as the LS1 swaps......NAH!
But it'd still be sweet to do.
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Old 10-21-2003, 11:04 AM
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If this was available this time last year I would have been all over it. 3000 for an LT5 is a great deal.
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Probably had a hole in the block.

I wouldnt have touched that deal with a 10 foot pole.
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That is the same guy that ripped off someone on this board for an LS1 and T56!! The guy wired the money, and then never got the motor!! Don't anyone get into this without finding out more!!! I could be wrong, but all of the details are the exact same. No pay pal, COD's, only a wire transfer, does that no seem fishy to anyone.....Does to me!!
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Old 10-21-2003, 03:08 PM
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Yeah. That thing about the address was kind of shady. I would have to see it in person before I dropped that kind of cash.
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Ok, I looked up the other thread (LS1) but I dont have time to research much now. These might be related, who knows... so I attached the two (cheap LS1 and cheap LT5) together. Watch out guys, be real careful buying expensive stuff over the net! I bought a car off the net, but I did it in person for a reason. I checked the car out first, just like I would have if it wasnt on the net. Sight unseen is for those with money to burn, IMHO.
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i would be on my way to wherever that money went, i would find the guy and get the money back, or make sure he had $1900 worth of damage to his house,car or business. the law takes too long on stuff like this, he needs a good old fashioned leg breaking lol
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Old 10-23-2003, 09:38 PM
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Sounds like a soviet is running quite a little scam. I'd personally get in contact with the local police and maybe even try the FBI if they even have a number to call. If you do let them know other people have been screwed to and that it's a evil ex KGB dude raising funds for al-qaida, that should get their juices flowing. If not theres always the barb wire base ball bat and a plane ticket over to Russia.
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first you should report it to ebay... and let them give you all the information you need to give to the propper authorities
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:45 PM
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you guys make me laugh, really. not the stolen money though...thats terrible man. you know you got the 3rd gen crew to go beef him up anytime. i would NEVER send money like that, i do a lot of dealing on this site and hate to see crap like that because it makes all the honest people look bad. id go pick up the motor myself when spending that amount of cash, ill drive to the west coast if i have too.
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I beleive that wire fraud falls under the Postmaster Generals office. Its still considered mail wether snailor e-mail. Give them a call
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Wouldn't it be nice if say you could erase him from the planet. Possibly kill off his identity .

Not hard to obtain the info you'll need to do it. You managed to get an acct number for the transfer already.

I don't advise this nor condone it. Identity theft is a crime and should not be performed.
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i would NEVER send money like that, i do a lot of dealing on this site and hate to see crap like that because it makes all the honest people look bad.
This is a good point....

People need to be careful when sending out large amounts of money......You should ask for alot of information for the person you are sending it too......phone, address, comlpete name, everything.....especially when it's almost $2,000
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should use a check when sending larg amounts of money, they can trace cashed checks you know...
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I recently bought an LT1 off ebay, it just arrived. I got it from someone who always sells on there, the place in Bristol PA, had lots of feedback. It gives me a better feeling and know that the transaction will go thru. Never even tried with the new sellers, or people that dont Paypal. Sorry to hear about your bad deal. Be careful people!
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first of all...it does fall under mail fraud,which is a federal offense,and second,NEVER send money to someone on an auction site that dosent have a very solid feedback reputation.also,if they insist on a payment method thats unusual,the sirens should go off,and the red flags should rise.i would love to take a baseball bat to that guy.call the feds,and good luck.
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Old 11-23-2003, 03:38 AM
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for future reference.....

if you send money orders through the mail send it USPS certified mail

requires signature and you get a definite address

PLUS

if he does stiff he is dealing with mail fraud
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There was an article about this on MSN not to long ago. I noticed the same thing on motorcycles the other day, when I was looking at crotch rockets, they offer free shipping from Europe because that is where the bike is now and the Buy It Now price is Super Low, but they want the money wired or some crazy stuff.
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Go to the local PD and make a report out. Give them all the information like the bank #'s the name etc. They will look into it. The PD that I work for we had the something happen to two people in our town. They bought a engine on Ebay and it turned out to be a fraud (Money was wired). A week later the person got locked up. It may take some time but be patient. Just make sure you give them as much info as possible.
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Gosh

dude that really sucks, I would be really pissed 1900!?? bux down the drain
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Old 12-21-2003, 10:45 PM
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Don't be fooled by feedback!!!!!!!!! i bought an L98 off a guy with a 100+ feedback rating and 100% positive back in september and still haven't gotten my motor! i payed right away too!!!!! All of you planning on getting a new motor should definitely think about a wrecking yard.
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Old 12-27-2003, 11:44 AM
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Ifyou wired the money, you have a target bank account number for the money to go to. This is traceable. also constitutes bank fraud. This really pisses off the powers-that-be. Take the information to the bank where you wired the money from, have them trace it to a name/address. If you find this guy in Michigan, let me know, and I will personally go pay him a "visit".......
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3 months ago some one hacked into my ebay account and listed a 1600.00 bicycle on my account!!!! i found this out by the email ebay sent saying "email change has been recieved"i emidiatly went to my account and saw this under "items im selling" i emailed ebay 3 times in 3 hours,no response, i changed my email back as soon as i could because i still was able to get into my account, and ended the auction.emailed the *** who changed the email and he asked me to leave the auction up for 24 hrs because his wife needs a transfusion... and the writing was in a broken form of english... i didnt keep it up and i continued to email ebay but till this day i got no response and they never creditied the listing fees. the hacker changed my location to germany and also said it would be shipped for free... the picture of the bike had palm trees in the backround!!! not in germany! it also was set up with no paypal just a wire transfer......i think these idiots look for people with 100 % feedback so that people will not question it. also like i said, ebay has a problem on there hand but they dont want to know anything, but dont pay them on time and watch out!!!!!
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Caveat Emptor

Caveat Emptor latin for: "buyer BEWARE" they even had fraud in Roman times....I guess things never change.
I dont know; anything over a $100. to me has to in person-cash on the barrel-merchandise on site.
These foreigners are laughing it up sticking it to us the "stupid Americans" Makes me mad.........
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I got stiffed by a guy in PA for a $400 hood on ebay. I called the Attourney General of PA and they said they would contact him. Well that was a year ago

You just gotta be careful, as it happens all the time.
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WHAT!!!

its better just to shop local but still thats difficult too:lala:
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Michigan...?!?!

...if he's from around the detroit area, let me know. I live about 25 minutes away and I'm always up for some @sshole bashing ;o)
It's that south american revenge i guess! hehe!
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Old 01-10-2004, 02:22 PM
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Do what I did. Drive 1700 miles and show up at his door with a pick up! Although the drive sucked, ( any of you near Des Moines last weekend know what I'm talkin about!!) I got results. A motor that should've been shipped months ago. But then again you would have to find out a certain address.......
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you gotta watch out for them Russians, they are scamming many people, most are through dating agencies but they are doing much more. Type in "russian scams" in aany search bar and you'll find tonnes of stuff and what to do about it.
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bro that's a scam!! I wouldn't trust anyone who writes like that. Look at all the prior sales he's made too...there all baseball cards and now all of a sudden he's selling a Corvette motor and trans?? If I had to guess I'd say he's sold all of those baseball cards to establish a good rep so some sucker will trust him then he makes a killing on a big scam like this.
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I wired him money out of my checking. The bank told me that was the easiest, and most proper way of doing it. Now they tell me as of yesterday, that one its wired, there is no going back. I even tryed to pull of a stunt with the bank that he never received the money. So I got them to trace it, to see if its in anyones account, and they said they may beable to get me a real name and address of the account to get ahold of him. I have a few sticks in the fire, but I want to be sure that I wack the right person in the head with the new bat that I bought for when I meet up with him.

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If either you or the other person used the mail, then there may be mail fraud involved.
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im not even gunna try to read thru this all.. my mom got ripped on ebay for 100 bucks of dvds... call the govt of the state and freak out. call anyone you can, state general, etc. ebay has a fraud policy but its not for the whole amoutn, look at the rating in depth. good ratings could be fake ie good buyer bad seller. needless to say my mom got all of her money back....
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dude, that really bites.i haven't had too many dealings with ebay because of this.i did buy an iroc-z for parts but i managed to get the seller's phone # and i paid him when i picked the car up.if ebay doesn't regulate this sort of thing more tightly ,they're gonna end up cutting their own throats.it's always better to do the c.o.d. thing.hope everything turns out ok.
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OK After reading all this thread, here are tips to think about when using ebay.

If they person's english and grammer are bad, they are not native english speakers and mostl likely foriegn. Unfortunatly most people on ebay that will rip you off are foriegners. Also, in the wire transfer part, the bank listed was in Prauge CZ, right there you should have saw a problem. If the bank they want you to deal with is not a known American bank, Bank of America, BankOne ect, don't fool hardily rush into it. Check the bank out, ask for a phone number or website of the bank, talk to the people there and confirm everything you can.
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I have a friend that bought like a 3500 dollar TV from a dude off Ebay in Canada. He sent him a check and 3 months later, never received anything.
But my friend is like a major spy. He found out where the guy lives, where he works, what he drives... he even has a satelite photo of his house. He gave all the info to the canadian police (in whatever city) and they are handling it right now.
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