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V6 or V8 ????

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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Car: 86 Z28
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V6 or V8 ????

I just bought a 91 firebird with a blown V6 automatic. I dont want to put a V8 ($) so im gonna put another 6 in it. What do you guys think is the best V6 at a reasonable price. Im looking for a used of rebuilt one.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
There aren't many choices. The 3.1 your car came with, a down-grade to an earlier 2.8, or a 3.4.

I'd pick the 3.4 if I were you. GM makes a crate engine, which may be more than you want to spend, but it's a good engine with warranty. Or, one from a 4th gen f-body. You'll have to change a few things from your current engine, like oil pan, I think. But, the boys on the V6 forum will have details (try a search for 3.4 on that forum).
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
Engine: 5.7 / 7.4
Transmission: 6sp / TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.55 posi / 3.23
KED85 also has a tech article available for reading. Should answer a lot of questions for you.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Would a 3.8 fit? They came in later 4thgen Camaros and Firebirds, and they had something like 200hp or something.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Doing a 4th gen 3.8 swap would be about as much trouble and expense as doing a V8 swap.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
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Originally posted by five7kid
Doing a 4th gen 3.8 swap would be about as much trouble and expense as doing a V8 swap.
not really. I got my engine/tranny/pcm & harness for $200
200hp 225tq

Almost done, gimme about a month to fire it up ( may not have y-pipe yet though)

earlier pics of engine in car:





It's a good thing it had teh angled tb for clearance.

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
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Originally posted by Project: 85 2.8 bird
I got my engine/tranny/pcm & harness for $200
And I'm sure your experience is "typical", and you included all the expenses to get it running.
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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Car: 13 Ram 1500/ 78 Formy
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actually, it's aout the same as when I picked up the 3.4 to swap in. That engine cost me $210, but I also had a 12 hr roadtrip there & back to save $$$$ on shipping. Local enignes were $550 (typical going price for a used 3.4) As for others costs, they go w/any engine swap, even when I did a 400~400 swap in my 77 T/A,
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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Swap looks great. Any mods?
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