85 305 to 400sbc, will tranny hold
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From: Lakeland, Fl
Car: 85 Firebird
Engine: 400 sbc
Transmission: T5
85 305 to 400sbc, will tranny hold
I'm in the process of having a 400sbc dropped into my 85 firebird (originally 305). Will the manual 5spd transmission that is currently in the car hold up to the torque from the 400?
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
If you dont beat on it itll last you long enough to get a t-56 or something stronger
thats a t-5 there RLY weak
thats a t-5 there RLY weak
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From: Casselberry, FLA
Car: 88 V6 'bird/89TBI bird/85 T/A
Engine: 2.8/TBI/TPI
Transmission: V8 T-5/700R4 x2
Axle/Gears: 3.42 open/2.73 open/ 3.27 9 bolt
It won't last long, even under normal use.
That's from a 90 bird with factory 305 tbi, converted to 400.
Also, it's too tempting not to get on it every ONCE in a while...
"DEAD TRANNY WALKING; DEAD TRANNY WALKING...,"
That's from a 90 bird with factory 305 tbi, converted to 400.
Also, it's too tempting not to get on it every ONCE in a while...
"DEAD TRANNY WALKING; DEAD TRANNY WALKING...,"
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
It is shock more than torque that kills them. A long-time member reports having a healthy 400 in front of a non-WC T5 that lived for many years and miles, because he knew how to drive it and not do clutch dumps or try to speed shift it. If you want to beat on it, do the T56 (or Tremec, or something much stronger) or go auto.
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Car: 87 Monte Carlo ss
Engine: ZZ4 1.5 rollers 650DP
Transmission: Probuilt 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 8.5 GN 3.42
It won't hold long if you floor it alot.When I went from the stock L69 with about 80,000 miles to a zz4 I blew the tranny up the second time I floored it!!! I would also start saving for a new rear if this 400 has any *****!!! Thank god for GN's and their 8.5 rears. So much cheaper than building a 12bolt or 9 inch.
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From: Casselberry, FLA
Car: 88 V6 'bird/89TBI bird/85 T/A
Engine: 2.8/TBI/TPI
Transmission: V8 T-5/700R4 x2
Axle/Gears: 3.42 open/2.73 open/ 3.27 9 bolt
You don't blow up 8.5's?
What am I doing wrong? heheh Heavy right foot, I guess...
I guess I like heavier stuff...
What am I doing wrong? heheh Heavy right foot, I guess...
I guess I like heavier stuff...
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Car: 87 Monte Carlo ss
Engine: ZZ4 1.5 rollers 650DP
Transmission: Probuilt 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 8.5 GN 3.42
8.5 rears are way stronger then a 7.5. I have seen guys with 400+ cube small blocks run them in the 11s with the stock 8.5 with over a 100 passes and no breakage. The ring gear is almost as big as a 12 bolt.
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From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
8.5 is.. well... an 8.5" ring gear. The 12-bolt uses a 8.875" ring gear. The 8.5 10-bolts are just about as strong as the 12 bolt is because of that.
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