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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Im gonna get flamed for this...

You guys ever think of putting a Rb20det? Or other varient in your firebird/camaro

In case you guys dont know its the Dual overhead cam twin turbo straight 6 out of a skyline

Ive been thinking of it recently, Because they can go crazy on horsepower and its original and hell, probly no one has done it before

Lemme think, Custom motor mounts, Tranny mounts and probly a new drive shaft

that and the total heap of wiring.. but I dunno

just an idea that popped in my head lol
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Interesting, I was thinking about an RB25 the other day.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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You are right, you are going to get flamed. I think it would be interesting. You would have a lot more room for turbo piping than the Skyline does. This would be a very expensive swap. Those engines are not cheap. and the custom work would be insane. The only way I can see this being feasible is if someone sells a stand alone harness for this particular engine.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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i think you might have been watch9ing Tokyo drift to much like I. I think that would be very interesting to do and quite frankly i would do it if i had the money...
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Well, it was sparked from tokyo drift, But a friend was showing me skylines and frankly i find that engine to be badass


if you can believe it, these motors only are going for 2 grand with Ecu /wiring/sensors/trannys on ebay ( which is why i was like wow... wonder if...)
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Dont hate on the man for thinking original. I even thought about going 7M-GTE (MKIII Supra Engine)a few times.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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If you are serious, I wish you the best of luck. Be sure to post pics if you do. If you can find a pic of the engine to post it would give others an idea of what you are proposing.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Well, i wouldnt be doing it anytime soon

Id do it right

Probly get a moser 12 bolt, Sub frame connectors all that stuff, Auto meter gauges and such

Then pull it of the road and drive a beater till the swap was done
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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RB20DET
http://www.spriso.com/images/RB20DET%2520-1.jpg
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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In case anyone is Wondering what the motor looks like.....




Straight inline 6, Comes in varients of 2000cc's to 2600'cc's i believe but over the years they were all rated at 280? horse but as ive been researching it looks like the turbo trans am deal, where it was underrated
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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the rb26dett was the only twin turbo(rb20det and rb25det are single) and the only one to be under rated at 280hp. it also only came in the skyline GTR's. I think it would really be a waste of time and louds of $$$ to fit an rb20/25. it would be worth it to fit an rb26dett, it really is a very different motor then the rb20/25. you would still have to "build" an rb20/25 to take a lot of power.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Thanks i had no clue

Gotta hate internet mis information

Still i would really like to do one of these swaps in the future
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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I would think you'd have to set it back under the cowl in order to get it to fit. Straight 6's are longer than V8's.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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i'd think it would fit. i seen 240 nissans swapped with rb25's and rb26's...as well as Ls1's. it should fit fine

but definately the rb25 or rb26 would be worth it. i havent heard of the rb20 until this thread. i do know the rb25 or 26 are good motors with the rb26 being the best

but it still is gonna need to be modded to beable to make decent torque and power to push a thirdgen's weight. kids rb25det 240sx on i think 13psi was makin 270whp. you can get that out of a L98 with a hotcam and vortec heads with tune on stock TPI. butloads less money

but to be different, that would be a motor to do it with or a 2jz supra setup

but then again, why go swap in a import motor that will require lots of fabrication, when there are good turbo V6's like the LC2 and the 4.3 typhoon/syclone motors that will go in without too much effort?
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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OK, first of all, NO RB20! nice motor for a stock skyline or even a 240sx but its still a torqueless bastard. It's peaky, like a honda. Go with an RB25/26 if you wanna go that route. Funny thing happened on Tokyo Drift, the mustang with the RB engine was faster then the mustang with the 460 was it? It was over 400ci same wheel hp too.

2jz would be cool, i've actually wanted to put the lexus 1uz (v8) in a mustang or camaro at one point in time.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Never thought about this type of swap before. Sounds very interesting, but this is mainly due to the fabrication factor that would be involved. Call me old school, but, I just don't see the work (and cost) that would be involved, of such a swap, justifying the whole entire concept. But hey, that's just me. Go for it!
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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It was just an idea, I cant seem to find and rb26's for sale

But there are PLENTY of rb25's

This swap wouldnt be happinging for a few years, Id want to put at least 6 or 7 grand into the motor so it could accually push my fatass bird around pretty good. That and id want to get the chassis ready, and all auto meter gauges sub frame connectors, 12 bolt rear end, You know the whole works then obviously the research and Maybe a nice small tiny decal on the door saying SKyline powered?

Amazingly the parts for these motors seem to be cheap, a stage 3 clutch kit is only 200 on ebay.

Im sure they sell Stroke kits for these as well like the rb25 could be stroked from 2500cc to /shrug? a 3.0? or some what. And since these motors seem to be all similarly the same i dont see how it could be that hard to use a rb 26 twin turbo setup on a rb 25

i just thought of something, IMagine the look on a mustang owners face when a firebird went flying by sounding like a v6 roasted them.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Here is an engine pic from the movie I found.
Attached Thumbnails Im gonna get flamed for this...-1967-mustang-skyline-engine.jpg  
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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If not the RB26, there's always Toyota's JZ series. It's not going to be a cheap swap either way, but it is different. I've had a straight 6 on my mind, but I was thinking a little more chevy.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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I thought about this swap recently. My friend has a 240sx that he swaped an rb20 into. As far as cost, you can buy a used rb20, 5spd, ecu and wiring harness with ~60k miles for $1000. Then you would just need custom motor and tranny mounts, and a custom downpipe.

The motor can handle 400whp so throw on a bigger turbo, intake and exhaust and you'll be good to go.

If you decide to do it post some pictures, I'd love to hear how it goes.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Any idea if they got stroke kits for the rb 25's?
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