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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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383 build

one simple question do i have to bore the 350 .030" over. With the added stroke of the 400 crank and the standard bore of the 350 (4") it should make it a 383 ? someone told me you have to bore it .030" over but wouldnt that make it a 378 ?
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Check your math. What are you using for the value of pi? Using 3.14159 (which contains sufficient significant digits), 4.030" bore with 3.75" stroke in 8 cylinders produces 382.6668677325 cubic inches.

My Palm calculator has a preloaded value for pi of 3.1415926535898. Using that, it comes out to 382.66719095765 cubic inches.

Either way, rounding to 3 significant digits produces 383 cubic inches.

On a 4.000" bore with 3.75" stroke, 8 cylinders, it comes out to 3.76.991 cubic inches - rounds off to 377 cid.

(Formula: bore squared, divided by 4, times pi, times stroke, times number of cylinders)
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Re: 383 build

For V8s, the quicker way is: bore x bore x stroke x 6.2832.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Right, the 6.2832 is pi times 2 (the "2" being 8 divided by 4). Oh, and that's rounded off.

But that's like giving a fish vs. teaching to fish.

Now, if we really want to teach to fish, the volume of a "cylinder" is the area of the base times the height. The base equates to the bore, and the height to stroke. And, we all remember that the area of a circle is pi times the radius squared (the radius being half the diameter, and D/2 squared is diameter squared divided by 4 - remember the "4" from the first line?).

Junior high math applied to the real world - and we all hated word problems on math tests.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Re: 383 build

jeez..i never realized the science behind cars until i joined here :P
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Re: 383 build

YOu dont have to over bore it if you use the GM 3.80" stroke and dont deck the block (Well its 382" technically...), but thats 1100 bucks and not worth it.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Re: 383 build

Originally Posted by five7kid
Right, the 6.2832 is pi times 2 (the "2" being 8 divided by 4). Oh, and that's rounded off.

But that's like giving a fish vs. teaching to fish.

Now, if we really want to teach to fish, the volume of a "cylinder" is the area of the base times the height. The base equates to the bore, and the height to stroke. And, we all remember that the area of a circle is pi times the radius squared (the radius being half the diameter, and D/2 squared is diameter squared divided by 4 - remember the "4" from the first line?).

Junior high math applied to the real world - and we all hated word problems on math tests.
So typical of me, giving fish away, hoping they won't ask how to catch the fish for themselves. Teaching takes more typing.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Re: 383 build

heres the easy way

bore x bore x stroke x .7854 x (number of cylinders)= cu in of displacement

4.0x4.0x3.75x.7854x8=376.992

Blamo!
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Re: 383 build

Originally Posted by itsMikey
jeez..i never realized the science behind cars until i joined here :P
+1, all this is WAYYYYYY to confusing!
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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Re: 383 build

hahaha man this is the easy stuff! Wait until you are trying to figure compression height for piston to valve clearance. Better break out the notebook. Hit the link for ultra easy version

http://www.csgnetwork.com/cubicinchdispcalc.html

This website has some extremely useful java calculators.
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