I know I know why would you want to swap in a Ford v10?, well why not? I understand that it would be more practical to 350 swap or ls swap it but that’s overdone. My question is aside from the Ford to Pontiac mounting differences how difficult would it be to shoehorn a 413 into the car?

 

V10 from the Ford is a terrible engine. An LS Swap is proven, straightforward, and will make so much more power in virtually all variants. Just sayin.

 

I guess just about anything is possible with the right tools and materials on hand for a weird "dare to be different" swap,but for something that would be nice to drive,a big v-10 truck engine in a midsize GT coupe is a "wild hare"chase I would forget about With OHC heads,that Ford is probably too wide and tall-I'll look under hood of my '99 f350 v-10 and have a look sometime If you want Ford,stick a 351w/c6 in there.

 

A couple of reasons 'why not:'

I don't know in what condition your TA might currently be, but by hacking it up to install an oddball engine, you'll pretty much be destroying the car's value.

If you must swap-in a V10, (and you either own a pro shop or else have $$$ to burn) at least go with a Mopar/Viper engine; that Ford Triton is a POS, and died an ugly production death buried under a mountain of spark plug and cylinder head problems.

 

The car has sat in my grandmas back yard rotting away since 98. The motor is seized and the rats have chewed through damn near every wire in the engine bay. I don’t care for the viper v10, which would cost a lot more then the triton. I also don’t see how the triton is a pos when they reliably make it to 300k and Ford made them up until 2019

 

In that case, based on your description of the car's condition, it and the triton engine should be a marriage made in heaven!

Good luck with your swap; take plenty of pics.

 

You won't get any love here because frankly, how would anyone know? These crazy swaps come up all the time and they always go no where, because they are silly. At the end of the day, the secret ingredient is money and determination, both of which are immediately abandoned after the first obstacle is encountered. It's a waste of time to even dignify these conversations with a response.

 

I’m not asking for step by step instructions bud and I definitely don’t remember asking for your opinion I’m asking the people who have actually shoved big *** engines into these cars because I know people have shoehorned bigger motors than a 413 into these cars

 

You literally asked for our opinion. You're going to need to do a ton of fab work and custom work that only you can figure out. There is a snow ***** chance in hell that someone has done this on this site. I'm not trying to be mean, these threads come up all the time and NONE of them ever come to fruition. I hope you prove us wrong.

 

Ford to chevy these cars did not come with pontiac motors except the I4

 

while personally I would never put a non GM engine into any of my 3rd gens, if you are bound and determine to do this, you can do some quick homework and see how difficult it will be
- get a comparison dimensional information between your basic SBC or LS to the Ford... you are likely to see that the length and width are going to give you some challenges, looking at the dimensions of the difference and then looking at your 3rd gen engine bay for reference you can quickly judge the issue
- you are going to have to think about a transmission, using what came with the ford is also going to probably be an issue for the tunnel. trying to mate a tremec or GM automatic you are going to need to explore is there even a bellhousing, etc that would likely work.
- since the engine is wider and longer you need to think about exhaust, this likely is going to require some creativity and likely either by you or someone else something custom and therefore cost some $, but again look at some pics with measurements and then your car you have
- how are you thinking about controlling the engine? you better check that you or someone else has the ability to either tune the original ECM and turn it and its harness into a stand alone or you are confident you can utilize a Holley , etc
- what are you going to do with front end accessories... likely what is on it is not going to be favorable, but again measure and look

with enough time and money anything can be done... i personally would not consider this a good use of time and money, but it is a free country and that is your choice... my ending comment would be just do some quick homework as i pointed out above for yourself and then the answer on pursuing this or not will be likely more obvious to you... good luck

 

I mean, on the one hand it's heresy, but on the other hand, it's not my car so whatever it sounds interesting! Could be a lot of potential too if you can find parts for it.

 

Hey, some guy did it with an old Mustang. I wonder how it performs...

 

Here's a YT video from the guy who built it. Great place to go if you have questions!

 

I haven’t been in the right place to start this project yet but I have come across this fella that’s doing the same thing to a 3rd gen Camaro https://youtube.com/c/Nodarperformance

 

I see him making a "widebody" kit on a thirdgen but I didn't see a thing on a ford v10 being swapped in. Am I missing it? I very well could be daft and missed it.

 

Unless a car is a "holy grail" collectors item, I'm all for sticking different brands of engines in it. That is what hot-rodding is all about.
But in this case, a V-10 is not going to fit. It can be almost guaranteed that no one here has done it...

 

Yeah you must have missed them. Here is one of the 2v v10 actually in the car. Before he started the Camaro v10 swap he had the triton in a mercury capri.

 

If you are Only after the 6.8L Displacement...

It is easy enough today, to just build a 6.8L LSx Engine!