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Old Jul 5, 2001 | 10:50 PM
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Will heads and an intake help exhaust sound?

My current mods are in the sig. I like my Flowmaster, but it's not as "throaty" as I would like it to be. I want the "crackling" noise that old muscle cars make. I love being able to hear the individual "pops" from these old cars. My Flowmaster is only throaty when I rev it. It is just plain deep at idle. So, my question is, if I add a ported plenum, Edelbrock TPI runners, an Edelbrock TPI base, and a set of Air Flow Research heads to help my engine breathe better, will I get this sound? ANY help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:26 PM
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I think if you raised your compression ratio a bit it might help. Also, if you retard your cam by 4 degrees, I think you'll find that the raspy sound will also be enhanced.

Personally, I find that my car has that nice raspy sound at idle until the carb goes closed loop. then, the idle smooths down and gets quiet. At least, until I mash the gas!

I have sounds of the idle on my website listed in my SIG. Is this what you are looking for?

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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 04:07 PM
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ws6, thanks for the reply. That's kind of how the sound is. But the sound I'm referring to is much slower. I don't want to retard my timing; I'd rather have it advanced. What I'm really trying to ask is, will more horsepower make the exhaust louder and more throaty? Thanks.

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1984 Camaro Sport Coupe - 73K Miles, Rebuilt 355 TPI L98, Crane 2032 CompuCam - 214/220 @ .050", Crane adjustable fuel pressure regulator, MSD Blaster coil, custom burned PROM, stock TPI intake, Accel 24# injectors, gutted air box with K&N filters
F41 Suspension Package, 700R4 Tranny, TCI Breakaway torque converter, 3.27 Disc Brake Posi Rear
Hooker Shorty Headers, Catco High-Flow 3" Cat, Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Cat-Back
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Best 1/4 Mile Run (with old LG4 motor):
16.760 @ 80.74 MPH

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Old Jul 9, 2001 | 06:15 PM
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Simple, get a solid roller cam with about .500" lift and 230+ degrees of duration at .050"

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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 12:20 AM
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Dude, you're using a nuclear warhead to take out a tree stump. If you want that sound, you need true dual two-chamber Flowmasters and a big cam. If you want to go fast, do these things. If you want that sound as still go slow buy a mustang and add two chambers with dumps.

No flame intended, but you're going the wrong, expensive way to change the sound of your car.

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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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Not on my 3rd gen, and I don't have it recorded on a website, but my '57 has exactly what you are talking about without a "wild" cam (notice idle RPM). It only obtained this sound after the 2-1/2" tailpipes were installed - when it was open behind the mufflers, it was just plain loud. Oh, I blocked off one side of the exhaust cross-over when I installed the intake this last time - that probably contributes to the crackling. It didn't do it before with Midas 2-1/4" turbo mufflers and 2-1/4" tailpipes and the exhaust cross-over open.

I believe the only way you're going to get that sound is with dual exhaust and very open or free-flowing mufflers (old glass packs used to do it). If you have an H-pipe between them or the exhaust cross-over open, it will reduce that crackling.

Personally, I'm not all that fond of it. But, I have neighbors I don't want to upset as I'm driving home from the track at 12:30 a.m.

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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 11:33 PM
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Nothing crackels and pops like glasspacks or open pipes Its not really the sound i like personally, but hey its your car, if its what you like go for it. I just always thought it was more an classic car or truck kinda sound but like i said, thats just IMO.

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Old Jul 12, 2001 | 12:45 PM
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Thanks for the replies. cy Z28, I'm not going to get heads and an intake just to change the sound. I was going to get them anyways for more power, and I was just wondering if it would by chance make my car sound better. Thanks.

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1984 Camaro Sport Coupe - 73K Miles, Rebuilt 355 TPI L98, Crane 2032 CompuCam - 214/220 @ .050", Crane adjustable fuel pressure regulator, MSD Blaster coil, custom burned PROM, stock TPI intake, Accel 24# injectors, gutted air box with K&N filters
F41 Suspension Package, 700R4 Tranny, TCI Breakaway torque converter, 3.27 Disc Brake Posi Rear
Hooker Shorty Headers, Catco High-Flow 3" Cat, Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Cat-Back
New Paint
Best 1/4 Mile Run:
14.137 @ 94.57 MPH

1992 1LE B4C Police Camaro RS - 305 TPI 5-Speed
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