I am about to put headers on a 88 2.8 . I have heard that true duals will help it , then I have heard that the 2.8 does not put out enough exhaust for true duals (2 mufflers) to help .I am about to put 3.4 headers on , should I put two mufflers or just put the headers on and get a Y pipe ? If true duals would help it , would it sound ***** ? It will be dynamax turbo mufflers . I dont want it real loud either .Thanx for your help , Wayne

 

true duals on a V6 sound horrible! TRust me. Get a dynomax super turbo catback, they sound very good. I should know I;ve gone through 6 mufflers and this one actually sounds good.

BTW you have to heat the 3.4 headers, put them in a vice, stick a bar into the collectors and bend them to clear the frame. They will fit though after you bend them a bit, I have them on my car.

 

I have the dynamax turbo muff on there and I really like it , but my friend is helping me with the headers and he was trying to talk me into true duals , I was thinking it would make it much louder and it would just sound ***** lol . I just wanted to get someone elses oppinion ,Im glad I didnt waste my money .I think I talked to you about the headers before ,Thanx for all the help man
Wayne

 

my dad has true duals on his '68 Jeep. Its a small buick v6, the smaller brother of the 3.8L. It doesn't sound *****. It has its own sound. Its an odd sound but its not *****

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz

 

her you guys can check out my setup, comming soon.



if this dosen't work click here.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/fiream
its in fiream under headers
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Chevy 2.8L 60° V6
Mods:
•K&N Filter Lid
•87 Formula Hood
•Bosch Platinum +4
•Hi-Flo CatCo CAT
•Flowmaster 80 Series Muffler
•83 Trans Am 15x7 Turbo Fin Wheels
•B.F.Goodrich Radial T/A 225/60-15
•Chevy 2.8L Heddman Headers (Going on soon)


http://www.geocities.com/fiream/Robs...l?994187591828

[This message has been edited by fiream (edited August 06, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by fiream (edited August 06, 2001).]

 

Why bother? Its a V6!


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1991 Camaro Z28
5.7L 5-Speed (originally 305)
13.23 @ 107.62 MPH
Southern California
Member: SoCal 3rd Gen F-Bodies
Webmaster: SoCal F-Bodies
-=ICON Motorsports=-

 

kevins right...v6s = winter beater cars = /

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1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42 80,000 miles

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback, Homemade Ram Air, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft (w/o headers and catback)

14.426 @ 96.19mph w/2.167 60ft(w/headers and catback)

Also newly modded w/o track times:

Holley AFPR, Underdrive Pulleys, KYB Shocks and Struts, Crane Ignition

 

Beater cars ? Nah , I dont think so , I have a re-built 2.8 slightly moddded .I made a pass with him at an old run down track , I hung with him almost the entire way down the track , with some more mods I can kick his a** . A 2.8 V6 a beater ? ah , I think not !!!
p.s. and this firebird just had received a tune-up and the previous owner took care of it .Maybe you should read more V6 articles before your so quik to call them beaters .

 

Kevin , Why bother putting dual on yours if its a V8 and its already fast ? ...why should anyone bother putting duals on there car ? ..B/c they want to and maybe it floats there boat !

 

Man it never ceases to amaze me on how V8 guys come off on V6 guys... do we not drive the same of car? its a F-body V8 OR V6 right? "why bother?" "its a winter beater car? "SO the #$%^ what, its a mans car, and he has right to make it different. How bout this... yours is a 305 or a 350 - SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE! the little 60 degree V6 is a decent block and prolly one of the best engines GM produced, they run good. Oh but i see, it's a V6, not a standard - everyone has one V8. Geez man think before you type - its a Fbody, i thought thats why we all came here to support a car we all love... Or maybe this type of crap is why i sold a 14.8 second V6 3.1L firebird and bought a FORD!!! Still tho, it doesn't mean i feel the need to down someones ligitimate question cuz he has a V6. Sorry about the flame type tone but god when will SOME V8 guys learn that the V8 is not all that and rather plain jane in comparison.

David

 

(applause)

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Jeff
92 Camaro V6, mods: K&N, modified air box, JET chip 2,Dynomax Cat & Cat Back Systemwww.camarors.4t.com

 

Ture Duals all the way baby!!

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Chevy 2.8L 60° V6
Mods:
•K&N Filter Lid
•87 Formula Hood
•Bosch Platinum +4
•Hi-Flo CatCo CAT
•Flowmaster 80 Series Muffler
•83 Trans Am 15x7 Turbo Fin Wheels
•B.F.Goodrich Radial T/A 225/60-15
•Chevy 2.8L Heddman Headers (Going on soon)


http://www.geocities.com/fiream/RobsCarArtPa.html?994187591828

 

Go for the duals but trust me you will run into clearence problems.

 

why are you bothering with a small block? Get a big block!
No replacement for displacement you know...

 

geez guys..... hey look, you can put true duals on it u want, you will kill all ur low end torque, and might gain a tiny high end. its no where near worth the money time or engine. now a dual exhaust muffler yes, that would be a nice investment. but i promise u, other then a different exhaust note, u will regret it. even the 4.3L chevy S-10 guys who turn them into sport trucks don't even use true duals because it kills torque so much. i really think it would better to get new headers and a y pipe, it will change the exhaust tone, and u will notive a difference, and then just put on a new muffler. i don't mean to flame, but its the facts.

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88' GTA 350 MODS---> air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass

 

My setup should be okay, because the cat i'm using is a dual inlet/oulet, one chamber cat, it's going to act like a Y pipe adding just enough back pressure to my system, and also the Cherrybombs i'm getting will also add some pressure.

Rob

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Chevy 2.8L 60° V6
Mods:
•K&N Filter Lid
•87 Formula Hood
•Bosch Platinum +4
•Hi-Flo CatCo CAT
•Flowmaster 80 Series Muffler
•83 Trans Am 15x7 Turbo Fin Wheels
•B.F.Goodrich Radial T/A 225/60-15
•Chevy 2.8L Heddman Headers (Going on soon)


http://www.geocities.com/fiream/RobsCarArtPa.html?994187591828

 

I meant, why bother because its not worth it, especially on a V6. I never said anything about V6's being inferior cars. True duals in my opinion is not a worthwhile mod, for any f-body.

And I cant put a big block in my car, that kinda thing isnt smog legal. I'm perfectly happy with my small block.

 

hey I do like the 8's, but dont bash the smaller engines like the 6 cylinders. Go see the fast and the furious and u will change your mind about 6's being beaters.

 

This should be a daytime soap-opera.

Duals on a 6 banger Like someone said....why bother??

Have you ever listened to popcorn popping? Thats what your 6 will sound like. Actually, more like a p!ssed-off lawnmower.

Get a Y-pipe and single 3". Thats even overkill.

If that V6 ever gets in the 16's in the 1/4, let us know. We'll then give you your dues.



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Mike L.
It ain't pretty.......

1987 IROC Z TPI 350 A4 3.27 Borg-Warner.

Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified Airbox w/ K&N's, homemade cold air, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, Flowmaster 3 chamber single 3" in/out muffler, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, custom dual !cat Y-pipe. airfoil, ported plenum. !smog

http://www.MichaelLasiuta.home.att.net

**BOYCOTT LAPEER DRAGWAY**

 

if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know it doesnt take much to get a 6 in the 16's. My 6 runs 16.0 with some wheel spin and bad 60 foots. Slicks and me porting the heads out should net 15.5-15.7's.

I should add I really like the perfomance/looks(especially with ground effects) of the 93-97 camaros, so I might just snag me up one before long. Ho and I'll be sure and true dual it to get that muscle car tone like a camaro should have.


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1992 black 3.1 V6, auto, T-tops. dynomax catback,3.4 headers, home-made FIPK,hypertech pulleys,B&M shiftkit,3.73's,crane compucam 2030
16flat@85.6

 

16 secondsfor a 6 cylinder? dude go see the fast and the furious they have 4 and 6 cylinder car doing 10 second 1/4. Sometimes on tv they have 4 and 6 cylinder dragging and they do so much better the the 8's do so before u bash the smaller engines get the info. I have a 8 in my iroc, but still some of those lil 6s are strong

 

OH OH OH..... can i be part of the "if you can get your V6 into the 16's club? pls pls pls? Sounds like afew (not all mind you) V8 guys need to get a clue. I don't think they need to go see the fast and furious, rather come over this way, i will show ya more then afew V6's that will stomp ya with a 11 second run, after that i will make sure that the local ford guys know ya love em - they mostly run 10's, 11's and 12's. What was commented on here was the fact of "why bother" was posted, not a explaination why it would be a bad idea - thats where AFEW V8 guys seem to lose there ability to accept not everyone wants/can afford or wants to deal with a V8. But i suppose my inability to grasp a concept called "BEING DIFFERENT" is a bad thing...


Why bother? <--- i agree - but try explaining why, not all of us are as gifted in engine concept as afew of the mighty 8 cylinder people are.


1991 Firebird V6
1974 Grabber Maverick 302

 

ya with 30 lbs of boost ur v8 would be running 10 seconds too, until it exploded


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88' GTA 350 MODS---&gt; air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass

 

Breathment... i see bedford... is that bedford MA?... If it is goto Epping NH drag way, i am sure the V6 guys are still running up there from time to time. They run easy 11's on under 15lbs boost in V6's. Theres a guy here locally with a 3.1L V6 GM engine running under 15lbs, its a turn key daily driver that will spank LS1's. I also KNOW for a FACT that the NA 3.1L can run a best of 14.8 in a firebird. There not bad engines. They are by no means a V8 and for the same money a V6 takes to run 14.8 NA a 350 can run into the 11/12 second range. I personally think afew of the v8 people need to stop knocking someone for having a v6 - again aren't we in the hobby for the car? really makes no difference to me anymore, i sold my firebird and went V8, and now i hunt GM V8's at 2900 lbs stock weight and sporting a V8 302 its VERY easy to do

BuHahahahahaha


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1974 Ford Maverick Grabber 302 - yeah its fast enough. Former owner of a 1991 Firebird - long live the firebird.

[This message has been edited by Red91Bird (edited August 09, 2001).]

 

<<<applause>>>

Ok...Ok.... Your props..... You pathetic little V6 made it into the 16's

I can name just about any production car/mini van/pick-up truck that will stomp the living dog poop out of that little V6 pushing that big heavy F-Body.

Better get serious guys....theres no pot of gold at the end of that rainbow.

Even my big bad 5.7 liter is considered "slow" by todays standards.

Get in the 13's...then tell me I don't have a clue. Oh...and take your head out of the clouds (for lack of censorship)




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Mike L.

The Weapon of Choice:
1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified Airbox w/ K&N's, homemade cold air, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, Flowmaster 3 chamber single 3" in/out muffler, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, custom dual !cat Y-pipe. airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, few others I forgot...???

**BOYCOTT LAPEER DRAGWAY**

 

13.8 on a 3.1L on NOS count? BTW... ya don't have a clue, oh yeah, forgot, i ran a 14.8 on engine and 13.89 on a 90 shot. But then again i am pathetic. Ya know, it is people like you that give the F-bodies a bad name. Down a guy for having a V6, no matter he loves the car, likes the lines and drives it with pride. Nope, he can't be part of the club cuz he choose to have a V6 - i bet the 3.8L V6 guys just love you in your area huh? I say if anyone needs to grow up and stop being pathetic - it is YOU for having such a one sided mind and NOT being into the total scene (V6 and iron dukes included) Rather have to flame someone for nothen more then the need to make yourself feel better. To bad your not in this area - i would make sure to show ya alil "feel better" on the road. Oh well, make no difference to me, i just suggest ya think before ya speak, first it was 16's - been done, now its 13's, i did that, oh and before ya pipe up again, 12's and 11's are being done by 3.1L engines too.



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1974 Ford Maverick Grabber 302 - yeah its fast enough. Former owner of a 1991 Firebird - long live the firebird.

 

go for duals! don't forget the h-pipe. not too much muffler, maybe glasspacks. it will sound nice and mayby you'll get some extra hp's. i had once V6 with single pipe. i modified it with "turbo" style muffler. stil sounded like crap, but it was S10 with 4.3.

-P

 

so I do something you said was nearly impossible and you bash me for it? Make up your mind.

oh I see, you have a 350 TPI, so you think you are a 14 second version of John Force....

so you come on here talking $hit like you rule the streets? Again, make up your mind.

if red91 can get 13's in his 6, you have to get into the the 11's....
so when you hit low 11's tell me to take my head out of the clouds...

 

one word..
WHY?

 

Ok this has gone downhill fast.

*LOCK*