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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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Flowmaster Muffler

Does flowmaster make a direct bolt on muffler for my 91 z-28 vert. Just want to bolt on and go.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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Yeah, the 80 Series.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 01:36 AM
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Spintech 343SC- you'll be happier with that. That's all I gotta say. -89IRO
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:08 AM
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And IMO, you'll like the 80 Series better. But look at/compare all the mufflers before you make your decision.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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Well IMO, your opinion sucks. J/K. If you are looking for a performance muffler, stay away from flow. Later. -89IRO
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Go with the flowmaster if you want a real muscle car sound
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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89IRO, please don't start this again. Even though you say you're joking, it doesn't really sound like it. Every1 has their own opinion and Flowmaster is obviously the most liked aftermarket muffler (which do flow enough) and if you like yours, great, I'm glad you like it so much, but don't be so opinionated or attack-like with your methods of getting that across. If this constant arguing continues over this topic in every post like it, it will have to be stopped.

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Go for the 80 Series Flowmaster.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Hey I wasn't "attacking" anybody. It didn't sound like the guy had bought his muffler yet, so I thought I would give him another option. Maybe you're right, I do like my muffler too much...if that's true, don't you think you would like to inform others? And I'm not starting anything, it's usually others who or too sensitive. Itsa91- if you want to go with the 80 series, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, but I hope you don't get it before doing a little research, or maybe you have, what do I know? Later fellas. -89IRO
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 02:24 AM
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get the flowmaster 80 series
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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I agree, go with flow"master", other brands don't come close. You'll be sooooo happy with it! -89IRO
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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I love my 80 series flowmaster....wouldn't mind hearing some different brand though. Some people wine about flowmaster being to loud......I absolutely love it loud..inside and out.....
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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I don't think flowmaster is loud at all. My neighbor has them on his truck, and there is a 4th gen at school, and it isn't loud at all. -89IRO
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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It depends on the application and which Series it is. Flowmasters can be low or extremely loud.

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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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Well I think my neighbor has dual 40s on his 350 truck. It is noticable but not that loud. And all the rich brats at my school who all drive silverados have flows, and all those trucks sound the exact same, don't know what series they are though. Pretty boring if you ask me.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by 89IRO
Spintech 343SC- you'll be happier with that. -89IRO
I thought that was all you had to say.

Why do you keep spouting off? The guy was asking if Flow makes a direct-bolt-in muffler. You offered an alternative, which is fine, but then started in on everyone who was answering the guy's question directly.

I'd suggest you start acting your age, but I'm afraid you already are.

Grow up.


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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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Wasn't this just a question about bolting on of the Flowmaster muffler?? I agree the flowmaster is a great muffler, I have the series 80 on mine with headers and hollowed cat. Sounds mean as hell, especially when you pull up next to a ***** pulling nothing but a cherry bomb on his little 4cyl. hehe.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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I suggest you shut the **** up. Why do you have to carry what's going on from another post into this one? You grow up you little bitch.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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I didn't bring anything over, you did, which is evident by IROCZTWENTYGR8's response to the grenade you tossed at him.

You've got serious issues, dude, which aren't going to be solved by taking pot shots at people that are supposed to be friends. When are you going to get the message?

Back to your question, tsa91; Flowmaster makes a direct-fit muffler for the application (happens to be what I've got), as does Spintech. The Flow is less expensive, the Spin would be a good choice as well. Neither would have an advantage from the bolt-in ease perspective.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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I did? You are upset at me for arguing with you about the use of synthetic gear lube (please lets not start it again here). Why do you bring your attitude over here? A "pot shot"? You mean when I told him that his opinion sucked and then I said I was kidding? Believe me if you want to or not. I know you wish I would type more but I gotta go. -89IRO
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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You know, this argueing in every flowmaster thread is getting very annoying. This is a public message board and people can posts opinions, thats fine.


But finding every flowmaster thread created, and bashing it with something you can't prove gets annoying and old real fast.



To get back on topic, my 80 series is pretty damn loud. itsa91, you will definetly notice a big difference in sound, but if you want it louder, you might want to look into getting the 3" catback.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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Flowmaster sounds GOOD on 3rdgens. I had one on my 1991 Z28 and loved it, but on LS1s they sound weak and its the last choice i would make. Borla also sounds really good and it alot easier to put on and fits better if you consider getting the whole catback... I have put on the flowmaster, my current SLP loud mouth, and Borla, and borla has fitted the best and that stainless steal makes it worth the extra money. I also like the sound of borla better then flowmaster. Another thing to consider, i run my car at the track alot. My 1st exhaust was flowmaster on the LS1 and i ran 13.2-13.3s on motor, then after i bought my borla my e.t. dropped and i ran consistant 13.0s and 12.90s thats like a two car length difference!. And it 'felt' different to with the borla. But needless to say, i wasent quiet happy with the sound of the borla on my LS1 so i got the SLP loudmouth a few weeks later. And it 'feels' good. I havent made any motor passes yet to compare it to borla, but my 1/8th nitrous pass with the L/M was two tenths quicker then the one i had when i had my flowmaster system... So i can pretty much say, flowmaster either hurt my car or these other two systems out performed flowmaster by 2 tenths and 2 tenths is ALOT.
Not only did it hurt my car, but my buddy has a head/cammed built LS1 with a Borla system. After i removed my catback we put my old flowmaster on his to see if it made a difference. I think flow sounded better on a head/cammed LS1 then borla. But he said it 'felt' slower and we ended up taking off my flowmaster and putting his borla back on at like 2am. hehe. But thats my experience with flowmaster. Each car is different and may respond different to different systems, especially when you go to engines that are different like the L98, LT1 and LS1. I know ill prolyl never get another flowmaster. I like sound, but when it comes down to it, my care can sound like *** for all i care as long as it hauls *** is all i care about.

So my list of reasons not to get a flowmaster is.
1) The SLP and Borla exhaust ran 2 tenths better.
2) EVERYBODY has a flowmaster. Big Mud Trucks, V6 Mustangs, SUVs, all other mustangs.... I mean they got so popular and everyone sells them. I just like to be different to i guess. My SLP exhaust sounds awsome, everynow and then people will ask me "Hey, what series flowmaster is that"? That should tell you how common flows are if people automaticially assume you have one..

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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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I have a heads/cam LS1 with borla and happen to like flowmaster better. It's really a matter of opinion on the sound issue. As far as one being faster than the other, I would bet the reason you ran 2 tenths faster with the borla is because of the open plate. It is basically a cutout, which obviously flows better than any muffler. I will be getting rid of my borla soon because I have to get a bigger catback now that I have the heads/cam and 3.5 inch y pipe. Only reason I have it anyways is because it came with the car when i bought it. I think whichever catback you get should be basically based on which sound you like best and my opinion just happens to lean towards flowmaster.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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I think Artic has a point. Everyone has a Flowmaster. It seems that I can go and read ten posts telling me to buy a flowmaster and read one telling me not too and I will ponder on that one post and wonder what other options are out there. But the bottom line is this. I have flowmasters on my ford 4X4. I don't like that back fire sound when you rev up to 5k and let off. Everyone knows that sound. I gutted my cat and it has a stock style muffler on it and when it runs, it sounds like the damn thing is under water. I just want a muffler that is going to sound meaner than hell. So I guess I have pretty much changed this post from does Flowmaster make an OE muffler for the camaro to which would be the best muffler for my camaro?
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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It's pretty much almost entirely based on opinion. You will get many different responses to that question. The answer is almost any caback you get will do the job, but which one do you think sounds the best? Just about every muffler you get will make the backfire sound though, especially with no cat.
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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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The best thing I like about my American Thunder catback is the interior noise after 3k. It has a nasty deep growl sound.

As far as the post about the loudmouth, its an awesome sounding exhaust. But IMO it is the flowmaster for 4th gens. Everyone has a loudmouth. Not that its a bad thing, I like the loudmouth alot, but its nothing different or rare.


Originally posted by 25THRSS
It's pretty much almost entirely based on opinion. You will get many different responses to that question. The answer is almost any caback you get will do the job, but which one do you think sounds the best? Just about every muffler you get will make the backfire sound though, especially with no cat.


*Ding Ding* We have a winner. That sums it up. Buy what makes you happy, I am not saying in anyway Flowmaster is superior to any other exhaust. I do not have the numbers to prove anything.

Good post

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