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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 11:51 PM
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more money going out, so they have to have more coming in. $600 for a cat-back is a rip off imo. i like my slp, but thats still $400, but i got mine used for 1/2 price
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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unfortunately for Borla that is not the case..If you check out national Drag sponsorship totals Borla has gone WAY down in payouts due to some financial issues I had heard about some time ago.Their stuff is good,but wasy overpriced and not worth it IMO....Are they the best you ask?....NO
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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quick answer here------> NO


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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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Just because they sponsor a lot of racers means nothing. Fram sponsors a lot of things, does that mean they are the best? Hell no!
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by KagA152
more money going out, so they have to have more coming in. $600 for a cat-back is a rip off imo. i like my slp, but thats still $400, but i got mine used for 1/2 price
If you were offered the SLP exhaust for what you bought it at or practically given the borla cat-back for $100, what would you take? lucky for me I had a friend that was putting his car on a diet and the borla was too heavy.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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No way. Borla isn't even that good sounding.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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wrong borla sounds great
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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How can someone be wrong about their opinion? I've got borla on my LS1 and to tell you the truth it isn't all that great.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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If you were offered the SLP exhaust for what you bought it at or practically given the borla cat-back for $100, what would you take? lucky for me I had a friend that was putting his car on a diet and the borla was too heavy.
id have to hear a borla system. it was about the same for me. my buddy had it on his '91 z28, but he went to true duals, so he sold me the slp one

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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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your right you cant be wrong on your opinion,but the borla system is preaty aggressive sounding. on my formula anyhow.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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I think Borla sounds ok. I heard one on a IROC, sounded great from mid to low. But at WOT it sounded too raspy for me.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Yeah, most Borlas I've heard have that sound. I've only heard 1 that had a pretty cool sound and I don't think they make that particular system anymore.
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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Borla only sounds raspy if you run a closed plate,. With no plate its deep and loud with a some what metallic sound at WOT. At cruising speeds is when it takes some getting used to...

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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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sound is subjective to EVERYONE!...what i like may not be what 10 other people like...the question was :is Borla the Best?...and the resounding answer is NO,NO,NO...There are other systems out there that are all stainless and just as good,if not better & they sound better too
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by subzero
sound is subjective to EVERYONE!...what i like may not be what 10 other people like...the question was :is Borla the Best?...and the resounding answer is NO,NO,NO...There are other systems out there that are all stainless and just as good,if not better & they sound better too
YES, YES, YES, Borla is the best , my opinion right
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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ive heard borla on a 96 lt1 and it dwarfed my hooker as well as my dynomax on how deep it was. Sounded 10x better than mine ever did.
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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the Borla does sound good on an LT1,but by the same token does not sound all that great on an LS1...engine variances have a lot to do with the sound an exhaust system will emit as well.Bottom line,if you like the sound and are willing to pay twice as much as a comparable stainless system...go for it!
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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I'm happy with my Borla system. There was a nice performance gain over my old previous blomasters. I love it and it sounds very distinct. Who cares bout sponsership
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by BORLAZ06
I'm happy with my Borla system. There was a nice performance gain over my old previous blomasters. I love it and it sounds very distinct. Who cares bout sponsership

Blomasters. That's funny.
Where can I buy a Borla muffler?
One of the guys in a local car club has the set up on his 94 camaro, and it sounds mean as hell.
I want to buy one, but I can't find them. So any and all help would be greatful.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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I like my Borla system a lot. I run it with the biggest hole plate in there and its not that loud at idle and cruising speeds. According to the Linegengelter book on building SBC motors it is the best performance wise. YOu the man John!
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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I've read Dynomax flows the most instead.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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Just because their logo is on the car doesn't always mean that thats whats actually on the car. I've seen many drag cars sponsored by Hooker that had custom made headers in it, not a Hooker set.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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I think Borla sounds like ****!!! In my opinion, if you want to sound like you have Borla exhaust, go down to the auto parts store and get yourself some cherry bombs and save $500 or so dollars. Thats what it sounds like to me.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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Right now I have Headmen shorties, cat delete pipe, and Hooker cat back on my 383 superram with 224/230 comp cam motor. The exhasut has a very throaty idle, 900rpm, but opens up and gets loud like a frieght train at 3000rpm. I just got Hooker 2210s with Mufflex 3.5" back with spintech dual 3" out setup. It isnt installed yet but I am sure it is gonna sound real good and I damn sure that the Spintech cat backs will outflow the other stuff any day of the week, Borla included.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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I recieved a Borla system from Summit. It didn't have the tips that I expected when I plucked down $550. I almost kept it anyway, until I realized what kind of idiot I'd be for trying to put this silly system on that comes in a 1,000 pieces. I'm sure it's not that bad, but I'd rather weld a couple pipes as opposed to playing with clamps for a whole day. Overall, the system seemed to be top notch quality, but I didn't like tips, and I'd be dammned if I was going to put that thing on the car.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Heh...I got a Borla system...

I tell you what, if anyone in the southern California area wants to hear a Borla, come to Redlands and here my new car. 387 hp at the wheels LT4 95' Tran Am.

In my opinion, BORLA is
the very best system you can buy, know why????

IT'S ADJUSTABLE!!!!

I haven't heard the non-adjustable Borla systems before, maybe they stink. The exhaust on this car sounds so freakin' awesome everywhere thru the driving range I swear I got a hard on for the first few days I drove the car.

When I first bought the car I was told that it had the plate in it that had a hole the size of a pencil. I wanted to try a bigger one just to see, but it was already awfully loud. Come to find out, he had it totally blocked off. I couldn''t believe it. I smiled, put the other plate in on a lift at my buddies shop, cranked it over and set off 2 car alarms in the parking lot.

The square tips are awesome, but if you don't buy the system there are super pricey.

My second favorite that cost much less and sounds quite comparable ( when the plate is completely blocked off) is my Dynomax Ultra Flo Stainless. I have it on my 91' with a intermediate pipe from a super turbo sytem, it sounds awesome. I got the muffler new in the box off of Ebay for 50 bucks, that's a steal.


Here's what I have had on 5 different f-bods after which I can say Borla is the shiznit:

Stock LG4 piping and a Flowmaster 80

Stock LG4 piping with a staright pipe in place of cat with a magnaflow muffler

Modded L03 with Hooker headers, and a DynoMax super turbo system

L03 with Vortec heads (the 330hp 91RS) with a 2.5 inch y-pipe into a flowmaster y-collector, the hooker shorties, 3 inch intermediate pipe, and an Ultra Flo Stainless muffler

L69 ( 310 c.i.) modded to about 290 hp or so: Edelbrock headers, 2.5 inches back to a flowmaster 80 ( it sounds great, really taseful but still with the trademark flowmaster tone.)

LT4 super modded with JBA headers, gutted cat, and a Borla adjustable.....= just plain wicked ( I have the plate on that has about a 1.25-1.5 inch hole)

Sorry for the long post, hope it helps.
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 12:27 AM
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I like the sound on my borla. Its different with gen1 SBC's than it is with say an LS1. I think the LS1's with a Borla sound excellent. Its not as good with a regular SBC though.

I like mine because I have an electric plate so all I have to do is hit a switch to turn off that noise
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 07:53 AM
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it is fine if you have the square intercooled tips on there like Borlazo6,but the Borla 14888 system that is for our cars DOES NOT come with those tips ..It comes with small round angle cut tips that look like pure as*...You need to take the old ones off and put the square ones on...if you think you are getting a system with those square tips you will be VERY dissapointed!...Still way to much $$ for me though when i can get something just as nice for half the price and spend that extra savings on something else for the car
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 08:08 AM
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To each his own I guess. I didn't think I would like the normal tips either, but I got the system used for a good price and decided they look pretty nice as well. Here is a pic. Yes the square intercooled fourth gen type look nicer I suppose. I bought this system because, like I said I got a good price, and I was looking for performance more than sound. The sound is OK too tho. Without the plate or the biggest hole plate in you are basically completely bypassing the muffler with = less resistance = more flow, etc.
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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By the way, here is an interesting comparison of how the system comes new (in a million pieces as someone said) and how I got my used system in about 3 pieces. They guy I got it from said that supposedly it is a bolt up system, but that it is better to weld it. He ground of the welds in a few spots to be able to box it up and send it and I had it rewelded at the shop, worked out fine
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Larry Dunlap
By the way, here is an interesting comparison of how the system comes new (in a million pieces as someone said) and how I got my used system in about 3 pieces. They guy I got it from said that supposedly it is a bolt up system, but that it is better to weld it. He ground of the welds in a few spots to be able to box it up and send it and I had it rewelded at the shop, worked out fine
Where does one buy such a "kit"?? or moreso a Borla muffler??
I'm redoing my exhaust within the next month er so, and I'd
like to buy a Borla tunable.

Thanks
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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Hey, that's not fair! Is that a 4th gen system or what? Crap, I would've hung to my system if it had those tips and I woulda dealt with the time comsuming installation. You suck man! J/K That looks awesome.
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Hey, that's not fair! Is that a 4th gen system or what? Crap, I would've hung to my system if it had those tips and I woulda dealt with the time comsuming installation. You suck man! J/K That looks awesome.
those tips r not even mine. my friend has a 4th gen trans am and he was cool enuf to let me borrow them. i wish my kit originally came with um they're still on my car as we speak
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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Just because their logo is on the car doesn't always mean that thats whats actually on the car. I've seen many drag cars sponsored by Hooker that had custom made headers in it, not a Hooker set.


Cars with stickers representing products that ARE NOT installed on their vehicles are known as R****S!
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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just a muffler

would it be possible to get just the muffler that I could bolt onto my flowmaster 3 inch pipes? I would like the adjustability at the muffler end but im happy enuff with the 3 inch stainless pipes,
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