Got new Exhaust(borla), HELP!!!
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From: Bloomingdale NJ
Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 350
Transmission: 4 speed auto
Got new Exhaust(borla), HELP!!!
Whats going on?
I've been a member on here for about 2 years, but never on alot. i have a 1989 Iroc, but im only sixteen and the past year that i have had it, could never drive it without my parents so i never really got interested to much in the boards, but august i am getting my liscence so i will be on here alot.
The only performance part i have for the car is a brand new Borla cat back exhaust. I was so excited when i was looking around for prices, excited when i ordered it, and excited 'til I layed the whole set-up on my bedroom floor!!! I finally realized that it was only a single exit exhaust. If any of you are familiar with the exhaust you know how it works. but for you like me here is how it works. the exhaust comes out of the cat and into a T as shown in the first picture. The thing is, to be legal and sound somewhat decent, i will have to put the fully closed plate in the right tip in order for it to flow through the muffler. This means when i start it and the little puff of smoke, or when i step on it nothing will come out of the right side. I think this s*cks. I never really sat down and thought it out before i bought it, so it is my fault if my idea doesnt work which is explained alittle later. Also i couldnt belive that with it being SO expensive and such a sought after system it is not set up differently. Here is what i planned up: I was thinking of just putting an elbow piece where the T piece is for the cut out. then flow through the muffler and come out to a split, i believe like the stock exhaust. (my car is at my aunt garage for the winter until we build ours, so i havent seen it in a few months). I have attached another picture of how i think i could set it up. as for the cutout, i always wanted the Mcleod or what ever power plate so i will just install that after the cat. Do any of you f-body owners have the borla set-up? Does this idea sound blown outta proportion for just a simple reason? Again i think it is dumb to have a V-8 and a single exhaust. I am not trying to make this true dual exhaust, just have dual tailpipes that "actually work". Also would a muffler shop be able to fab those two pieces for me? any help at all would be great as i am looking to take the car out soon and have the exhaust installed. Any help at all will be helpful!! thanks albert III
P.s I know i should have bought a different exhaust or had one fabed how i wanted, but i am trying to work with i got. Also im changing the whole way borla set it up but oh well lol
i hope these pictures work, they looked small when i previewed them on photbucket, so if you dont mind please go to the website between the 2 [img][/img] things and save the pictures to a picture viewing program. then blow it up so you can read the descriptions i gave. So sorry for the whole story and the work i make you do to help ME but i appriciate(sp?) it!
I've been a member on here for about 2 years, but never on alot. i have a 1989 Iroc, but im only sixteen and the past year that i have had it, could never drive it without my parents so i never really got interested to much in the boards, but august i am getting my liscence so i will be on here alot.
The only performance part i have for the car is a brand new Borla cat back exhaust. I was so excited when i was looking around for prices, excited when i ordered it, and excited 'til I layed the whole set-up on my bedroom floor!!! I finally realized that it was only a single exit exhaust. If any of you are familiar with the exhaust you know how it works. but for you like me here is how it works. the exhaust comes out of the cat and into a T as shown in the first picture. The thing is, to be legal and sound somewhat decent, i will have to put the fully closed plate in the right tip in order for it to flow through the muffler. This means when i start it and the little puff of smoke, or when i step on it nothing will come out of the right side. I think this s*cks. I never really sat down and thought it out before i bought it, so it is my fault if my idea doesnt work which is explained alittle later. Also i couldnt belive that with it being SO expensive and such a sought after system it is not set up differently. Here is what i planned up: I was thinking of just putting an elbow piece where the T piece is for the cut out. then flow through the muffler and come out to a split, i believe like the stock exhaust. (my car is at my aunt garage for the winter until we build ours, so i havent seen it in a few months). I have attached another picture of how i think i could set it up. as for the cutout, i always wanted the Mcleod or what ever power plate so i will just install that after the cat. Do any of you f-body owners have the borla set-up? Does this idea sound blown outta proportion for just a simple reason? Again i think it is dumb to have a V-8 and a single exhaust. I am not trying to make this true dual exhaust, just have dual tailpipes that "actually work". Also would a muffler shop be able to fab those two pieces for me? any help at all would be great as i am looking to take the car out soon and have the exhaust installed. Any help at all will be helpful!! thanks albert III
P.s I know i should have bought a different exhaust or had one fabed how i wanted, but i am trying to work with i got. Also im changing the whole way borla set it up but oh well lol
i hope these pictures work, they looked small when i previewed them on photbucket, so if you dont mind please go to the website between the 2 [img][/img] things and save the pictures to a picture viewing program. then blow it up so you can read the descriptions i gave. So sorry for the whole story and the work i make you do to help ME but i appriciate(sp?) it!
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Why not just sell the Borla and get a new muffler? The new exhaust would probably cost less then what you orignally paid for the Borla. Or you could just buy a Mcleod cut out which they make for individuals with the Borla system so that you do not have to switch plates manually. You can just press the button, this is what I have for my Borla.
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Just to put this out there:
Why is it dumb to have a single exhaust pipe and a V8. You're not going to see huge gains adding another tip unless it involves bypassing the muffler like in the first picture.
I say just sell it and get one more like what you'll need. Fab work costs alot unless you know someone.
Why is it dumb to have a single exhaust pipe and a V8. You're not going to see huge gains adding another tip unless it involves bypassing the muffler like in the first picture.
I say just sell it and get one more like what you'll need. Fab work costs alot unless you know someone.
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Just my two cents worth: Sell the Borla system and use the money to get a different brand. But first, slow down a bit. With it being summer, there should be some car shows happening. Go to them and look for a car like yours. Talk to the owner and see what he/she has for a system, and ask if they would start their car up and let you hear how it sounds. Then research ALL the brands that you think you might like (based on how they sound) and make a choice based on how it sounds, how much it costs, and how well it flows. I have a Series 80 Flowmaster in the stock location, with the stock 3 inch intermediate pipe and the stock dual 2.5 inch exhaust tips. (Also the stock dual catalytic converters) Most of the time you don't really notice the muffler, since it isn't that much different from the stock sound, but since I've owned the car for 13 years (I ordered the car new, back in 1992) I can tell the difference. I haven't really gone any long trips yet, so I can't say if it affected gas mileage, if at all.
I think you guys are all nuts !!
Sell the Borla for something else? What a blowmaster? Hooker? Give me a break !!
You're gonna get rid of the best flowing, best built and best looking exhaust system available on our cars for some cheap-*** dime-a-dozen alumized pipe and muffler?
Listen kid, the Borla is hands down the best flowing exhaust available for the Fbody. I have one on my '93 LT1 and was makeing well in excess of 500RWHP through the Borla. Opened up the electric cut-out (just before the rear axle) and gained...... NOTHING !! What does that mean? It means the Borla adds no restriction what-so-ever. (atleast up till 500RWHP)
It's completely stainless steel so it'll NEVER rust out, sounds AMAZING and gives you the option of selecting just how loud you want your car to be.
I run mine with no plate at all and get nothing but compliments on how it sounds.
You've already bought it so it makes no sense to sell it only to get something else which isn't as good.
How many 3rd gen camaro's do you see with a Flowmaster? How 'bout a hooker ? SLP?
Every Tom, Dick and Harry has these systems and they all sound the same.
BORING.
Borla's are unique 'cause not too many people have them and with all due respect, I honestly think the people who like to put down this system are the one's who can't afford it.
- 3"
- Manderal Bent
- 100% stainless steel (lasts forever)
- Adujstable
- Looks & Sounds awesome
- YOU ALREADY HAVE IT !!
Why get rid of it for something else?
My advice? Keep it !
Sell the Borla for something else? What a blowmaster? Hooker? Give me a break !!
You're gonna get rid of the best flowing, best built and best looking exhaust system available on our cars for some cheap-*** dime-a-dozen alumized pipe and muffler?
Listen kid, the Borla is hands down the best flowing exhaust available for the Fbody. I have one on my '93 LT1 and was makeing well in excess of 500RWHP through the Borla. Opened up the electric cut-out (just before the rear axle) and gained...... NOTHING !! What does that mean? It means the Borla adds no restriction what-so-ever. (atleast up till 500RWHP)
It's completely stainless steel so it'll NEVER rust out, sounds AMAZING and gives you the option of selecting just how loud you want your car to be.
I run mine with no plate at all and get nothing but compliments on how it sounds.
You've already bought it so it makes no sense to sell it only to get something else which isn't as good.
How many 3rd gen camaro's do you see with a Flowmaster? How 'bout a hooker ? SLP?
Every Tom, Dick and Harry has these systems and they all sound the same.
BORING.
Borla's are unique 'cause not too many people have them and with all due respect, I honestly think the people who like to put down this system are the one's who can't afford it.
- 3"
- Manderal Bent
- 100% stainless steel (lasts forever)
- Adujstable
- Looks & Sounds awesome
- YOU ALREADY HAVE IT !!
Why get rid of it for something else?
My advice? Keep it !
Last edited by LT1FUN; Jul 7, 2005 at 09:30 PM.
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yea i agree
I totally agree with you LT1, i bought this exhaust for all of those reasons. Now that i finally got it, i am trying to improve on it. I just got alittle p*ssed about the exhaust's exit. I would have bought another kind but i allready have the borla, really like it, and like you said very few people have/could afford it, so thats why i am trying to improve on it.......take my word for it, selling the borla to get another brand would have been the LAST resort lol, i was just trying to get some feedback on my idea...but every person including you that has/had the borla loved it, so i guess i am just going to leave it that way. thanks everyone for the replys, now i can spend my money on a different thing instead of fab work....Hella YA!!!!
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