Exhaust Post your questions and suggestions about stock or aftermarket exhaust setups. Third Gen exhaust sound files and videos!

Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:52 PM
  #1  
Excellegions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
From: Sunrise Fl
Car: 91 Camaro TBI 5.0
Transmission: Auto
Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

Hi All! ! !

I have a 1991 camaro v6 3.1l, it has a one wire oxygen sensor. Im getting bad gas milage so I want to change. I found a three wire o2 sensor on ebay, however I dont know if the stock o2 sensor is a narrow or a wide. Can the computer in the car read a wide band o2 sensor if the stock is a narrow band? Does it matter if I put a narrow or a wide band for this car's ecu? I hooked up an air fuel ratio gauge from autometer and the signal jumps crazy from lean to rich rediculously no matter what you're doing to the throttle. Im sure this is a clear sign o2 sensor is bad. Ok, lets hear the feedback. What do you guys have to say?
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:11 PM
  #2  
82Five-O's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
From: Fort Worth, TX
Car: 82 Sport coupe
Engine: 355 semi roller
Transmission: TH-350 B&M ratchet shifter
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Eaton Posi
Re: Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

That's not a bad 02 sensor, that's just the problem with narrowband 02 sensors, inaccurate readings. Actually, they're not inaccurate, just vague.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:31 AM
  #3  
Excellegions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
From: Sunrise Fl
Car: 91 Camaro TBI 5.0
Transmission: Auto
Re: Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

Ok, narrow band gotta go, do we know that my ecu will be ok with a wide band sensor?
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:50 AM
  #4  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 27,933
Likes: 2,454
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

The "narrowband" is designed to only give 2 indications: there's NO oxygen left over after combustion (assumed to be richer than stoichiometric, if all combustion has been completed), or there IS oxygen left over (leaner than stoich). That's pretty much it. Which is why it appears to "jump" from one to the other.

The wideband is designed to give a continuous smooth indication, proportional to the amount of oxygen in the stream.

ECMs don't usually like wideband ones too well, because they don't get the result they're expecting. They expect to be able to make a small fuel trim, and see a BIG result; and thereby "zero in" on the ideal mixture.

Use the WB with your meter, and leave the NB hooked to the ECM.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:10 AM
  #5  
Excellegions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
From: Sunrise Fl
Car: 91 Camaro TBI 5.0
Transmission: Auto
Re: Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

That is exactly the information I need, Thank you so much ! ! ! i luv this f*cking site ! ! ! !
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 10:57 AM
  #6  
Demon355's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,633
Likes: 4
From: Toronto, Ont
Re: Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

Whats a good wideband setup for our cars? I guess any setup would be good if your not running a computer hm?
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 11:08 AM
  #7  
Excellegions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
From: Sunrise Fl
Car: 91 Camaro TBI 5.0
Transmission: Auto
Re: Narrow & Wide Band O2 Sensors

I guess the ecu would have to be reprogrammed to utilize a wide band signal, i know very little about reporgramming ecu, however i have heard it done, though i don't know what they did to em.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
9192camaro
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
16
Feb 3, 2019 12:21 AM
antman89iroc
DIY PROM
36
Jan 31, 2016 08:42 AM
mdtoren
TPI
12
Aug 23, 2015 12:52 PM
mdtoren
Tech / General Engine
0
Aug 16, 2015 05:45 PM
doc
DIY PROM
15
Feb 20, 2001 04:40 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:57 AM.