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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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super 40,44 or 80 series

sorry guys. i have searched and i cannot find anything definitive.

i have an 84 t/a.
i am goin to leave the fact mannifolds on for now and get a new Y and I pipe. prolly goin 3 or 3.5" on the I pipe. i'm not buying a kit. i'd rather have it custom installed.

the spr 44 is 4.75" and the spr 40 is a 5" case. i'm thinkin of goin with the 44 though. it seems it has less baffling (not chambers,.baffling.) than the spr 40's do.

bassically i need help in deciding. i also like the 80's to,but i think the 80 series is gonna be to quiet for me. this is not my DD. so it can be loud. i'm looking for deep,throaty, and loud.
any help i would really appreciate it.
thanks.jay.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

I have a Super 40 3" (single exit). I have a new cat, and shorty headers. It is very deep, throaty, and loud. If you like the telltale Flowmaster sound, you will love it. Personally it's a little much for my daily driver. While cool at first, after 6 months of daily driving it's become pretty annoying.

I've been trying to get some good sound clips up but time and weather haven't been permitting. Hopefully I can do it in the next couple days.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

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I have a Super 40 3" (single exit). I have a new cat, and shorty headers. It is very deep, throaty, and loud. If you like the telltale Flowmaster sound, you will love it. Personally it's a little much for my daily driver. While cool at first, after 6 months of daily driving it's become pretty annoying.

I've been trying to get some good sound clips up but time and weather haven't been permitting. Hopefully I can do it in the next couple days.
I second that, I have one on my truck with a turn-down, hate the droning of long drives (everyday) but love the sound when I cruise intown.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Originally Posted by Darkshot
I have a Super 40 3" (single exit). I have a new cat, and shorty headers. It is very deep, throaty, and loud. If you like the telltale Flowmaster sound, you will love it. Personally it's a little much for my daily driver. While cool at first, after 6 months of daily driving it's become pretty annoying.

I've been trying to get some good sound clips up but time and weather haven't been permitting. Hopefully I can do it in the next couple days.
thanks darkshot.
thats just what i want to hear. if u could take a sound clip that would be awesome. i can't find any clips with the spr 40's.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

About the "custom" install...

Muffler shops can't make mandrel bends (smooth bends).
They make crush bends... (the machines to make mandrel bends are thousands of $$$) So unless they start with a generic kit of straight and mandrel bend pieces, you'll be getting crush bends... not the best for performance...

I got a kit from Flowmaster, 3" 1 in 1 out (which also flows better than the 1 in 2 out and it has a 30 series (not made anymore)... I think this kit now comes with the Super 40, unless old stock is around...

I too love to hear a bad *** exhaust on a car, but I would grow tired of it too all the time in the car...

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Originally Posted by luvofjah
About the "custom" install...

Muffler shops can't make mandrel bends (smooth bends).
They make crush bends... (the machines to make mandrel bends are thousands of $$$) So unless they start with a generic kit of straight and mandrel bend pieces, you'll be getting crush bends... not the best for performance...

I got a kit from Flowmaster, 3" 1 in 1 out (which also flows better than the 1 in 2 out and it has a 30 series (not made anymore)... I think this kit now comes with the Super 40, unless old stock is around...

I too love to hear a bad *** exhaust on a car, but I would grow tired of it too all the time in the car...

Raf
damn! sucks to live a FL. not in my state. i can think of 3 off the top of my head that have mandrel machines. hasn't been that way around here for atleast 20 years. i mean why i have a custom exhaust shop if ur not goin to offer mandrel bends. wierd. and yes we have places that advertise custom exhaust and pipe bending.
i wouldn't even go custom if i couldn't get mandrel bends. good lookin out though. i appreciate it.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

i heard the 44 is bad *** so get that one
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

i have super 44's on my mustang and they sound great, and i have an 80 series on my camaro and i think that it sounds better.

but if you dont want to sound like every other camaro with flowmasters, go for the 44's they do sound different. thats my $.02.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Originally Posted by impaled
i have super 44's on my mustang and they sound great, and i have an 80 series on my camaro and i think that it sounds better.

but if you dont want to sound like every other camaro with flowmasters, go for the 44's they do sound different. thats my $.02.
can u explain why u think the 80's sound better?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Originally Posted by ws6blackhawk88
damn! sucks to live a FL. not in my state. i can think of 3 off the top of my head that have mandrel machines. hasn't been that way around here for atleast 20 years. i mean why i have a custom exhaust shop if ur not goin to offer mandrel bends. wierd. and yes we have places that advertise custom exhaust and pipe bending.
i wouldn't even go custom if i couldn't get mandrel bends. good lookin out though. i appreciate it.
Raf.
i owe u an appology. i don't usually state something if i'm not sure of the facts. especially when i am posting. if i'm not sure i will say that.

but today when i called around to some diff muffler shops,they all told me that they don't have a mandrel bender. now the last time i had any exhaust work done was prolly about 10 yrs ago. all this time i've been buying catbacks for the diff cars i've owned over the last 10 yrs.

i thought that the pipe benders that i have seen being opperated were mandrel benders b/c there was no kinks in the pipe they were bending. so the guy i was talking to explained to me that the bender won't always put kinks into the pipes. it depends on the sharpness of the bend and the diam. of the pipe.

so as i stick my foot in my mouth and my thumb up my ***(for good measure)
i appologize.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

On the Flowmaster web site, there are sound clips of each model muffler. Although, there is no way to know if the sound clip is of a single exhaust or dual exhaust system, nor how modified the engine is.

With that being said, there is little difference between the 40 & 44.But to me, I prefer the 40, The 80 is VERY tame. Way too tame for my tastes.

I'm considering cutting my Magnaflow bullet off, and putting a 40 on instead.

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Anyone have a part number for the "original 40 series" that will fit our cars?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Originally Posted by Stephen
On the Flowmaster web site, there are sound clips of each model muffler. Although, there is no way to know if the sound clip is of a single exhaust or dual exhaust system, nor how modified the engine is.

With that being said, there is little difference between the 40 & 44.But to me, I prefer the 40, The 80 is VERY tame. Way too tame for my tastes.

I'm considering cutting my Magnaflow bullet off, and putting a 40 on instead.
yeah thats why i postedthis,b/c there is no way to tell what kindof car those mufflers are on.
to me there is a very noticable diff between the 2. the spr 44have less baffling than the 40's. the only thing that i am hung up on,decision wise is,the spr 40's are a 5x10 case and the spr 44's are a 4.75x9.75 case. i am calling flowmaster to day to ask point blank which muffler is louder. and i'll let u all know.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

I've considered the Outlaw bullet style, since I currently have a Magnaflow bullet. It would be easier to fit that one in, than a crossflow muffler, behind the rear axle. But, no idea what it would sound like. TOO open?

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

I am running a 80 series and I think it is just about right. Deep idle but not to loud but when you tach it above two thousand or so it really opens up and screams. I like the 80!
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But I forgot I also am running electric dumps so I can get really loud if wanted, that might factor in.

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

this is an interesting thread. i got rid of my 80 series and was thinking about putting a single in single out super 44 on my car. it's my toy so i'm not worried about drone or anything. it'll have hooker super comp LT's, custom y pipe, hollow cat with straight pipe, 3 inch all the way out the back.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

I have hooker shorties and am about to run a 3" single all the way back, I have a little single chambered flowmaster lying around that I was thinking about putting on but I'm afraid it will be obnoxious, anyone running one of these?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

Originally Posted by CashMunson
this is an interesting thread. i got rid of my 80 series and was thinking about putting a single in single out super 44 on my car. it's my toy so i'm not worried about drone or anything. it'll have hooker super comp LT's, custom y pipe, hollow cat with straight pipe, 3 inch all the way out the back.
well i just got off the phone with FM. the reg spr 40 and the spr 44 won't work unless u go true duals. or single in and single out. so i'm either gonna go with duals or the 80 series. i have to read the stickie on duals and see if i want to do it. i am planning on hooker 2055's (with Y pipe) so goin with the hkr L/T's wouldn't cost me any more than i was planning on spending for ceramick hkrs. so we'll see.
thanks alot guys. oh if i do go duals it will be 1 chmber flows. i don't care about loudness either as this is not my DD.
jay.

p.s.
just read the L/T tag. i'm not goin through all that just to have tru duals when the h/p i plan on having will not warrant such a mod that a nice 3 or 3.5" I pipe wouldn't do the job. this is gonna be my pleasure vehicle with car shows and cruising. i am planning on keepin the original 5.0 H.O and rebuilding it to run at about 300 to 350 h/p. i know the whole thing with cost of doing that compared to a 350 and i don't care.but i want to maintain its stock appearance and function, so please no flamming or lectures of how stupid i am. this is how i've decided to restore my T/A.
thanks for understanding.
so i guess its back to the drawing and back to listening to sound clips to see wich one i will get. i remember hearing a clip of a black maro with headers and flows so i'm gonna go back and see what headers he has on that beast. it sounded awesome if i remember correctly.

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Re: super 40,44 or 80 series

well after much debate.
i think i'm goin with the hooker super comp catback and hooker shorty headers. prolly do the C/B first.
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