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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Side Pipe Kit

Would a side pipe kit from a corvette like a late stingray or even a c4 vette work on a third gen? or even would the pipes work but have to make s pipes to connect to the headers?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Not as a direct bolt-on. You could start with that & modify your y-pipe to do it.

But considering you'd be modifying the emissions portion of the exhaust, it wouldn't exactly be legal to do, unless this isn't going to be a street car, then do what you want.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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everyone and their legale chatter needs to calm down since laws differ state to state in mine there is no emissions for a car 25+ years again is anyone out there attempted side pipes on a 3rd gen and what did you do to make it work?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

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everyone and their legale chatter needs to calm down since laws differ state to state in mine there is no emissions for a car 25+ years again is anyone out there attempted side pipes on a 3rd gen and what did you do to make it work?
There is no emissions testing past 23 yrs here, but that does not make it legal to take stuff off. Just means it doesn't have to be tested.

You need to calm down & realize we are just stating FACTS. Whether or not a person chooses to ignore them or not, is their choice.

If we just said "Sure...Do it." and they got busted? We'd here crap about how we told them to do something it.

So go ahead & do what you want. Why bother even asking in the first place? You should know full well that the two exhaust systems are completely different to begin with, so OBVIOUSLY it won't be a bolt-on item.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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my asking if i can use the vette kit mor or less mean does anyone know if the length of the pipe the actual side pipe would be the apropriate length for the camaro also or would it be too short/long for the side of the car
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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the length would probably be close, but you would just be able to use the side pipes themselves, and the ones with one inlet, not the funky ones with the 4 tubes going into them. attaching them to your headers would be up to you, and its a bit tricky especially on the driverside since the header points forward and bit.
you would probably be better off measuring the car and buying a more universal set of the appropriate size.

I had a side pipe-ish setup years ago, just glasspacks and exiting out in front of the tires, it really didnt look all that good, they just dont "work" on these cars. Also, they sit too low really, and get in the way. Even at a stock ish height, they would scrape on speed bumps and backing out of the garage.

And Stephen is 100% correct. Its a federal law to keep your emission equipment intact regardless of if you are checked for it or not.

All that aside, my largest issue with setups like this, or removing the cat(s) in general, is the smell. the exhaust will stink without them, and it can be a bit nauseating. I put cats back on my car just for this reason, and a good cat wont affect power by any amount that you can feel.

A good 3" stock routed exhaust and a good muffler will keep you legal, sound great, and offer a lot more ground clearance. It will also more or less bolt on, and you wont have to rig up something to make it work.

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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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i alrdy have a 3 inch and i think its too large feel like no back pressure losing bottom end torque and the current exhaust hits everything anyway because of how it was installed by PO
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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there was a plain firebird about 8 years ago driving around with the single chrome side pipes from jc Whitney


it looked ok i guess not for me but it wast bad really. i have no idea how he routed the exhaust but it was functional. i would guess shortie headers and a couple 90deg bends
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

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i alrdy have a 3 inch and i think its too large feel like no back pressure losing bottom end torque and the current exhaust hits everything anyway because of how it was installed by PO
sounds like a different issue than the exhaust to me, but who knows.

what size are the sidepipes? wouldn't the end up with a higher volume than the 3" single? or are these little 2" pipes or something?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Backpressure doesn't have any positive effects on power :|
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

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Backpressure doesn't have any positive effects on power :|
Incorrect. A slight amount of backpressure is good (i don't know the correct amount to tell you & doubt that there is just 1 specific measurable amount). Too much or too little, is a bad thing.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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Whoooops he said losing bottom end torque, not power.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 12:51 AM
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

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Incorrect. A slight amount of backpressure is good (i don't know the correct amount to tell you & doubt that there is just 1 specific measurable amount). Too much or too little, is a bad thing.
nope
the amount of backpressure an engine has determines where the power band is to some extent. some b.p. helps in low rpm range
no b.p. moves the band up into a higher rpm range
there isnt any real loss or gain just a different range
nascar teams use different exhaust headers for different size tracks
depending on if its a low end grunt track or a 10.000 rpm screamer track
also depending on the cam and the gearing in the car
and the same is true for a street car
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

Originally Posted by Stephen
Incorrect. A slight amount of backpressure is good (i don't know the correct amount to tell you & doubt that there is just 1 specific measurable amount). Too much or too little, is a bad thing.
there is an AMAZING sticky about backpressure
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 02:06 PM
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

this past winter i played with the side pipes, honestly, i like them. now a bigger engine.

ill try to add a better pic when i get out off work.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Re: Side Pipe Kit

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It looks like your car has cancer.....i like side pipes on old vettes, new vipers but not third gens. as soon as i hear third gen and side pipes, i think MuIIet.
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