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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Exhaust placement issue ?

Hey all, It has been a while since I've posted anything. But I seem to be having an issue with 2 local shops here in Michigan. I requested the first shop to fix the enormous hole in my exhaust between the oil pan and the crossmember, and while in there to run new pipe from the header back to the muffler.

He said ok. But only did the little piece where the hole was, used 4 pieces of 3" metal, welded them together and gave it back to me after a nice $200. 3 days later, I hit a pot hole in a driveway I go down 20 times a month, car bottomed out a little (not all the way down). Turns out, he ran the new pip under my oil pan making the exhaust the lowest point of my car. Lost all my oil, engine seized etc.

Long story short, took it to another mechanic after the first guy told me to go F myself, and he does the same exact thing 3" further back. His reasoning is "That's where it goes. There is even a little nitch in the oil pan for it. If you don't like it, call GM and complain."

Sadly I have misplaced the pictures of the car's exhaust b4 I took it to the first guy so I have no proof, and finding pictures of the underbody of this car with a stock exhaust is proving difficult.

Does anyone have any pictures of this? Or am I in the wrong here? I'm not a certified tech, but I do all of my own work except trans work and exhaust work (I can't weld to save my life). i'll post some pictures of the current placement as soon as the hoist become available.

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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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Re: Exhaust placement issue ?

I dnt have a pic, but the pipe routes from the driver manifold toward the front and goes between the crossmember and the oil pan sump. Mine is tucked up high enough that the oil pan sump is lower than the pipe.
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_163731.jpg

Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_163743.jpg

Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_163754.jpg

I'm not sure what was used in the 3rd picture, but it is clearly not a weld. Is this normally done on exhaust work? It is the first time I have ever encountered this if it is - And I've had multiple aftermarket exhausts.
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Best views I could get, unfortunately
Attached Thumbnails Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_165056.jpg   Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_165125.jpg   Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_165144.jpg  
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Re: Exhaust placement issue ?

Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_092545.jpg

Exhaust placement issue ?-img_20130830_092552.jpg

These are pictures of a passing Camaro I was able to flag down and get pictures of - Clearly showing it what I thought - The exhaust tucked up between the oil pan and cross member.

So, hopefully this is enough proof that I am correct ?
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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Exhaust placement issue ?

The pics of the camaro you caught are how its supposed to go.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Re: Exhaust placement issue ?

Originally Posted by Capttech
Hey all, It has been a while since I've posted anything. But I seem to be having an issue with 2 local shops here in Michigan. I requested the first shop to fix the enormous hole in my exhaust between the oil pan and the crossmember, and while in there to run new pipe from the header back to the muffler.

He said ok. But only did the little piece where the hole was, used 4 pieces of 3" metal, welded them together and gave it back to me after a nice $200. 3 days later, I hit a pot hole in a driveway I go down 20 times a month, car bottomed out a little (not all the way down). Turns out, he ran the new pip under my oil pan making the exhaust the lowest point of my car. Lost all my oil, engine seized etc.

Long story short, took it to another mechanic after the first guy told me to go F myself, and he does the same exact thing 3" further back. His reasoning is "That's where it goes. There is even a little nitch in the oil pan for it. If you don't like it, call GM and complain."

Sadly I have misplaced the pictures of the car's exhaust b4 I took it to the first guy so I have no proof, and finding pictures of the underbody of this car with a stock exhaust is proving difficult.

Does anyone have any pictures of this? Or am I in the wrong here? I'm not a certified tech, but I do all of my own work except trans work and exhaust work (I can't weld to save my life). i'll post some pictures of the current placement as soon as the hoist become available.

Thanks
you got ripped, im afraid. your legal recourse is pay and sue him for damages.or forget it and re do all of it correctly.but ill tell you shops that do that here in TN don't stay in business very long. seems they burn down shortly after doing work like this
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