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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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Car: 1989 IROC-1
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Hedman Shorties and Y pipe

Any experience with these?

The whole set is about $200.00 or so, not too bad at all.

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...76&cgrfnbr=517

Is the Y pipe a bolt up application...I don't have access to a welder.
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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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I got 'em. They don't have any O2 sensor or AIR tubes. The headers themselves are great but the y-pipe is a little on the dinky side 2 1/2 inch I think. Everything bolts right up and you can use clamps ...no welding required.
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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
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Got the headers not the Y

I used the headers and had the exhaust shop build a MUCH better Y-pipe using a flowfaster brand Y (listed in JEGS), it turned out GREAT, then I run to the rear and use a crossflow stlye DYNOMAX muffler, and dual out, it looks good and sound good, mellow at IDLE, SCREAMIN' when she's pinned...
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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 04:08 PM
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I have that setup and i like it a lot. But you have to lift the motor to get the drivers side header on. Everyhing else fits really nice and works great.
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Old Mar 28, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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What did you guys do with the A/C bracket? Also, how hard is it to weld in the O2 sensor? ME Leigh, you said you had to lift the driver's side of the motor; I will have my heads off when doing this. Do you think I will have the same problem?
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Old Mar 28, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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You probably won't have to lift the motor then. As far as the AC bracket i had to do a little modification for it to work, a little cutting and grinding, but nothing major.
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Old Mar 28, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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The only thing I had to do to get the driver's side header to go in was remove the steering shaft. It dropped right in. I had to bend some brake lines because the headers came VERY close to them. My only complaint is that I can't get a regular spark plug socket on 2 or 3 spark plugs so I had to tighten them with pliers. All the rest go in with ease.
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Old Mar 28, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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i got these to, actualy i just started it for the first time with them in tonight! i was doing a engine swap and put them on, they sound good, and were fairly easy to instal. WELL worth the 200bucks. thats a steal! i had a friedn weld the 02 in for me. i actualy had to get it done twice. the first time i put it facing the front of the car, like the stock one on the manifolds, but ohhh no, bad idea, it will hit the fram. so drill it on the back side, the side facing the rear of your car!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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i removed the steering shaft also to get my driver side in, i got the ceramic coated ones, and the y-pipe i put my o2 in the y-pipe just where it connects to the header
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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Any trouble getting the spark plugs in?
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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i put my spark plugs in before the headers went on. MOST of them look easier to change, i think there may be 1 or 2 that need a little thinking.
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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i got this set up and it is a steal. they sound good and there cheap. there are only a few plugs that are hard to change but for the most part they are easier. to put the headers on all you have to do is lower the tranny a little bit, they will slide right on then.
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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what??? Lower the tranny? Crap, Im expecting to put mine on in a span from say.... 8am till 5 or 6 pm, think I can get it done? So left motor for dirvers side header, shave ac bracket for passenger side header, weld 02 sensor facing rear of car not front of car?
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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sounds bout right, you might get lucky, i didnt even have to lift the motor or trans. jsut gotta play around with it for a little bit.
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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I have had them since 98. I had the whole thing jet hot coated , as far as changing plugs I use the shortest plug socket I could find and a offset box wrench
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Hi guy bobs here , listen ive been reading a lot of posts, an some reserch on exhaust., some say 3" some say smaller.I i have a bone stock 92 lo3. Could somone plese post a list of parts an no# from headers rite back to tail pipes. thanks
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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i just bought these headers and ypipe used. i am getting the 2.5" single part of the ypipe cut off and 3" welded on. then the whole thing jet hot coated.
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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How hard would it be then to bolt the headers to the stocl system that is on the car now? The guy before me jus put a straight pipe instead of the cat and a straight pipe all the way bacl. Pretty damn sweet sounding, but also pretty damn illegal!
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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the headers wont bolt up to the stock system
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 09:50 PM
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If shorty headers wont bolt up to stock y pipe, do they come close enough that an experience exhaustman could custom join the two.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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dont even bother!!! the stock y pipe is one of the most restictive parts of the exhaust!! do yourself and your car a favor and get a new y pipe! there is no point in paying a guy to weld new headers up to the stock y pipe and pay him alot to do it, when you can get a good y pipe for under 100 bucks
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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The set of headers I have and will install don't have a y pipe . Not sure of the brand either. Dont see or hear about them often. At the head where they mount ,the primaries are joined by a very thin strip of metal that has 2 loops midways between the ports. Wish I had a way of posting a pic so I could get some info on them.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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spend the money and get a custom y pipe then,,, or jsut sell the headers you got on ebay, then buy some new ones with matching y pipe.. heddman headers and y pipe will cost you 211 bucks...not bad at all!
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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I already have a custom y pipe on there from the previous owner. He had a nice 2.5" straight pipe system put on all except for headers because he didnt have the money. So the custom y pipe is already non restrictive and i really didnt want to cut and try to find another y pipe to replace the custom one he already had done
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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as long as its not the stock one you are good and have my OK to do anything you want to hook them up to the headers!
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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it was really easy to lower the trany. all you need to do is take that braket off and put a jack under it and lower it a little bit. 4 bolts i think for that braket. i think easier than lifting the motor. the most time i spent is taking all the old stuff off. every thing eles took maybe an 1hr. if i were you i would at least try it.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by fattie92
i put my spark plugs in before the headers went on. MOST of them look easier to change, i think there may be 1 or 2 that need a little thinking.
In case anyone was still curious I changed mine out this past week. Did the whole driver side and front 2 passenger side from the top in 10 min. the 2 rear on the passenger side took longer and have to be accessed from the bottom. Whole job took about 40 min or so and was painless.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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Good to know.

Thanks.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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Hedman Headers

Hey there everyone
I am planning on putting some hedman headers on. I am reading a lot of these messages and starting to think it might not be as easy as I think. I kinda have an idea of how I want ot do things but I am not sure. I want to put headers on am maybe connect the catalytic converters right to the headers. I don't know if this is possible yet. Has anyone tried this. And I also need to put the O2 censor on back on and was wondering where would be the best place. I was thinking of putting it before the catalytic conv. or maybe on the X pipe that I install. Any help would be great. Sorry for any simple questions. I am just starting to get into fixing up my 92 Firebird. Thanks much Rob
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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hmmm im assuming if your using a X pipe, then your gonna be using full lenght headers?? your gonna have to run additional wire for your o2, and you should put it behind the collectors, and before the cat. i dont know anything on installing the long tubes, so ill let someone else tackle that one. good luck!
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 05:51 AM
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Do a little more reserch on this topic, Seems to me everyones, goes with shortie headers edelbrock, hooker. ect, all have provisions for emmisions. An everyone seems to have an opinon im leaning towards Hoooker, or slp. Either way
im gettting them coated.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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if you dont got yo worry about emissions,, id get the full lenghts and make it a dual system that dumps out in front of the rear wheels. but if you gotta worry bout emissions.......do yourself a favor and get the hedman shorties for our car. they are of good quality and they are cheap.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Whats the primary size on the HEdmans? What are the part numbers>?
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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1 5/8" primaries with a 2.5" y-pipe. I have these and i am planning on having a muffler shop cut of the single 2.5" pipe and replace with a 3" pipe so it will be dual 2.5" into a single 3"
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 11:34 PM
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o2 and AIR

So what are you planning on doing with the O2 sensor and the AIR hookups? What is the AIR anyways? I think I know where they are but what is it for exactly? Is the AIR the little tubes comming from each exhaust port??? Thank You very much everyone Rob
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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i am putting a carb on the week before so i dont have to worry about the O2. if you need an O2 ring you can order one from jegs or summit and have a shop weld it on or you might want to see your luck at local exhaust shops for one. i dont have any smog stuff so i dont want AIR hookups. the AIR is the little pipes that go into your manifolds they inject air into your exhaust to help with emmissions. these headers probably arent for you if you want AIR.
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