krazycracka55

anybody know where to buy or how to fab? looking at some circular gages for my 92....need to know how to work with the electric guages as well

look to add a big speedo a big tach and ive seen some quad guages for the lil things

krazycracka55

also best places to get
plexi/aluminum/carbon fiber from?

dennis6

Just thank GM for using that dash for the last 2 years. Its not cost effective for a company to designe a bezel for a car only produced 2 years.

That being said, I don't know why there isn't a board member making them. You could easily clear 100 bucks a unit if you did.

HanSoloWS6

Well, for your fiberglass and carbon fiber, go here: http://www.fibreglast.com/ Local company to me and I have heard only good things about them. They have a forum there too so you can ask any questions you might have.

For the plexi, I'd say try Select Products: http://www.selectproducts.com/ They have a good selection that I've seen. There are a couple other companies, but I can't think of them at the moment.

bottlefed89

like this one

bottlefed89

ITC Fabrication

dennis6

Well, they already have nice ones out for 82-89 camaros for about 100. Nobody makes them for 90-92 models.




CCL-110-82-50901 Gauge Panel, Chevy Camaro 1982-89, Blank -No Holes/No Gauges, Black Today $109.95
CCL-110-82-50902 Gauge Panel, Chevy Camaro 1982-89, Blank -No Holes/No Gauges, Brushed Alum. Today $109.95
CCL-110-82-50904 Gauge Panel, Chevy Camaro 1982-89, Blank -No Holes/No Gauges, Carbon Fiber Today $109.95
CCL-110-82-50921 Gauge Panel, Chevy Camaro, 1982-89, 6-Hole, No Gauges, Black Today $109.95
CCL-110-82-50922 Gauge Panel, Chevy Camaro, 1982-89, 6-Hole, No Gauges, Aluminum Today $109.95
CCL-110-82-50924 Gauge Panel, Chevy Camaro, 1982-89, 6-Hole, No Gauges, Carbon Fiber Today $109.95

drain89

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I have the same problem, but since I'm wanting to run about 10 gauges I'm gonna go with the 4th gen firebird dash so I can run 3 gauges where the cenrer vents are and 3 on the a pillar.

86IROCNJ

anyone want to post my pictures if i email them to you?

MTPFI-MAF

Does anyone else Realize that they forgot a place for the SES light. Us TPI guys use it quite offten.

omnipotentgoku

iTrader: (1)

who made these gauges ?

MTPFI-MAF

The guages are autometer guages but the company that makes the guage panel and wiring harness is http://covansclassic.com/

dennis6

Yep, covan makes them and the prices were taken from summitracing.com. You can buy them from covan for the same price though.

LT1VertIroc

Well, I made one for myself that I think turned out pretty well. I managed to fit 7 guages and turn signal indicators into it as well as an autometer shift light. Heres a link to some pics of it.

I used the Autometer 5" Tach and Speedo, and the 2 1/16" Fuel Level, Trans Temp, Oil Press., Water Temp., and Volts.

I guess if there was some interest, I could make some up and sell them. Let me know what you guys think.

Custom Guage Cluster

86IROCNJ

Not bad at all. Those are 2 1/16" guages? They look smaller, but i guess thats b/c you went with 5" tach and speedo when i went with the smaller ones. Any pictures of them installed?

LT1VertIroc

Noo, Not yet, but I can get some. They aren't in the car yet but it would be real easy to just bolt the bezel in and snap some photos. I will try to do that this weekend. I also made one out of Clear Plexiglass and then covered the back side of it in Brushed Aluminum Vinyl. It looked killer until I put the guages in and when I did the clamps on the back of the guages wrinkled the vinyl up and made it look like crap. I could make them out of the plexiglass though and use just about any color someone would want. I still have the plex one layin around so I will snap a couple shots of it too.

Intensity_Z

you culd always buy those sunpro style guage pods that hold 3 guages and then hang those under the air vents in the center, an dif you don't run heater and stuff you could put more guages inplace of that in the console..just a thought, i'm doin mine kinda the same , a 5" tach on the dash 3 on the vents and my n20/fuel pressure on the a-pillar, you could also just cut a custom panel out of sheet metal, use the stock bezel as a template and then cut oput as many holes as you want

krazycracka55

i found the speedo and misc stuff i want in 5 inch guages but they dont make a tach in the same style
theres a big 5 inch speedo with a big 5 inch 4 n 1 guage for gas/oil/temp/batt but it would be nice to find a matching tach to do 3 5 inch across and keep it almost the same as stock

krazycracka55

anyway i can get the template with just blinker holes and screw holes?

LT1VertIroc

If you are wanting to know if you can get it with just those provisions, then yes, I could probably do that for you and you could situate it how you want with the guages that you want.

Email me with any questions or anything that you might have if you want to get one.

drain89

iTrader: (10)

LT1VertIROC....that is the nicest example of a custom gauge cluster I've seen for an 82-89 Camaro yet! I'm wanting to do something similar for my 91 camaro if I ditch my idea for a 4th gen firebird dash. Even if I use it, I will still make a custom cluster for my AutoMeter Ultra Lite gauges.

LT1VertIroc

Thanks a lot! I was pretty happy with the way it turned out. I am still goin to try to get out to my car again this weekend and get it bolted in and take some pics of it in the car so you guys can see it installed. I tried to do it last weekend but didnt have time.

Thanks again man, I appreciate it.

LT1VertIroc

Ok, I was out workin on the cars this weekend and I threw the guage cluster into my parts car (its the only one that currently has the dash installed in it!!). I snapped off some pics and put them in my gallery located here
The pics aren't the greatest but it gives you a good idea.

Ohh, and nevermind the GMC steering wheel, I guess it was all the guy had that I bought the car from

dennis6

Great job, now if someone would just do it for the 91-92 camaros and sell the template or something.

USA-1

Alright, not 5 inch but you get the idea. I just made this out of wood. I made my cuts and then painted. I started with a semi black as a primer. Then I painted a couple of coats of the "Hammered" look spray paint. Once the finish looked fine I sprayed it with a coat of the semi gloss black again. Cheap and fairly easy.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...87_33_full.jpg

krazycracka55

how hard are electric aftermarket guages to install??
i know mechanical is easy but never worked with electric b4


and yes i would want a template

LT1VertIroc

Electric guages are pretty easy to install. They come with a sender and you usually only have to hook up a couple wires.

If anyone would like to get one of the bezels that I have then PM or email me and I can get some made. I guess the price would depend on if you want it blank, or with different guage layouts.

Later,
Eli

MTPFI-MAF

if I can get my hands on a 91-92 style dash Or dash trim plate I can make Many different setups the last one I did was in a 86 camaro with 5"speedometer 5" Tach and 2-2 5/8" autometers that were flush mounted so that the dash plate was Even with the top to the Trim Bezel. Looks Great, didn't get any pics. I will call the dude tomorrow and see if he will let me take some Pics.

The Guage Panel was made out of a sheet of ABS plastic that I cut in correct shape, cut out the holes then did some fiberglassing, MDF Trim Rings. Sand Everything down And Used some Hammerd finished paint covered with black, gives that factory texured look.

just wish I had a 91-92 dash Handy

krazycracka55

i know its bigger then 89- models... i used to have the digital dash for the 84-89 models and it was a little short on all sides

if i knew sooner u could have bought my junk dash off of me for cheap just s&h but that was 2 months ago

hot69z

Im far from my car right now and have access to a full out machine shop up here I was wondering if anyone could give me measurements to the gauge face i need the diameter of the steering colum hole and the hight and width measurements i can make a nice blank up here and then finish it off at home

Thanks guys

LT1VertIroc

ok man, here ya go

height= 7 13/16"
width= 16" @ widest point
steerin column hole diameter= 4 3/16"
It is 2 1/2" from the bottom to the start of the arc for the steering column.

hope that helps. Post up some pics of it when you get it done!

hot69z

I don't mean to be a pain in the *** but i forgot to ask what the distance across the top is so i can get an exact arc. Im going to post a picture of my Inventor drawings as soon as im done then im going to try and get the rest made up during this upcoming week

LT1VertIroc

the width @ the top is 14 3/8"
the width at the bottom is 14 7/8"
the widest point is about 3 5/8" from the bottom

hot69z

thanks lt1vert ill have something up in an hour or so

hot69z

this is what i got i went with 5 inch speedo and tach and 2 3/8 oil pressure, temp, fuel level, voltage, and fuel pressure the fuel pressure will go in the center so i can keep a tight eye on it. the 4 holes around the center gauge are side marker lights, E brake and high beam
what do you guys think?

hot69z

it won't let me open it so i guess ill put it on my cardomain site it will be on the 2nd page

www.cardomain.com/id/celli85

LT1VertIroc

well, It looks alright, but I think you are goin to run into interferance issues with the bezels of the guages. The bezels hang over about 3/16" all the way around which means that you need atleast 3/8" clearance between the mount holes.
Just my observation. If you look at the way I made mine, with 2 1/16" guages, that worked out really well as far as layout goes.

If you have enough clearance the way it is designed, go for it, it looks good.

hot69z

Thankyou for the input i did take it into consideration for the 5" gauges but never thought of the smaller ones and the 2 outer most gauges are damn close to the outer edge

omnipotentgoku

iTrader: (1)

Are all of those holes made with autometer gauges in mind ? Reason I ask is because they generally have that lip, and in those small openings above the speedo opening, that could cause an issue.

hot69z

yes they are ment for autmeter gauges.... and if you scroll up Lt1vert had caught my mistake I thankyou for the input i have already redeisgned the pannel just havn't had the time to post it up finals week is always a bitch

TheGreatJ

Here's how I set up the Ultra-Lites in my '91 dash. The Speedo and tach are 3 3/8" and the rest are all 2 1/16". I didn't want the clutter of high beam and turn signal indicators, so I mounted LEDs in the blank panel below the headlight switch to cover those functions.


Pardon the lack of a dashpad.....I'm still working on the stereo wiring.

TheGreatJ

Here's a shot to better show the texture of the panel. I used 16ga sheet steel and coated it with 4 light layers of Duplicolor's black aerosol bedliner. The texture is VERY close to that of the dash.

LT1VertIroc

Looks Good man!

TheGreatJ

Thanks......for what I paid for those gauges it better.


I actually got most of them for cheap off eBay, but the speedo I had to get new. That thing's expensive too.....nearly $200 by itself. Had to have it though....needed a programmable electronic gauge to work with the T56.

Spdfrk1990

Thats exactly what i want TheGreat was it easy to wire up.

dennis6

Perfection! The Great J, you oughta sell the panels.

MTPFI-MAF

Here is what I think is funny. CovansClassics charges $130.00 for there wiring Harness For there Guage Set ups. Some one should see how much it would cost to make these for people or do a how to. Here is a link to Covans IP Harness. http://covansclassic.com/parts/descr...94465.54.98.23

TheGreatJ

Wiring these gauges up is not exactly difficult. The Autometers are all just "power, ground, sensor" 3-wire hookups. The pain is running wires from the sensors through the firewall to the gauge panel.


Making the panel was easy. I borrowed a couple bi-metal holesaws from a guy I know and just layed the gauges face down on the panel to see how they'd fit. Trace around the gauge, find the center of the circle, and drill. The hard part was mounting it.....the way the stock gauges mount just wasn't going to work so I made brackets out of 1/8" x 3/4" bar aluminum.

omnipotentgoku

iTrader: (1)

how are those for lighting ?

TheGreatJ

As in how well are they lighted at night? I can see them almost as clearly as I can during the day, but I didn't use the colored bulb covers in them. Those things make them quite a bit harder to see. I wired the bulbs through the dimmer switch and the dimmer function works just fine too.

A few guys have tried using the LED "194 replacement" bulbs in them, and I don't think they provide enough lighting either. The problem with LEDs is that the gauge faces are lighted from the front by reflection.....LEDs aren't particularly good for reflective lighting (the light is too concentrated.)