Yes...Really!

On a 4th gen wing....GET ONE FROM A LT1 CAR, NOT A LS1 CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

My buddys fits great, the pedestals sit flat. I believe 93-97 is the key. My 2001.....On the pedestals, the fronts sit up and lean outwards. I'm actually considering finding a different/earlier one. Even the wing ends "lean".

im so glad i live in the south were we dont have front tags that s!-! ! t Is uggly and yea if you get in a wreak its just gonna and moe damage

Well, the one I was looking to get was off a '96(LT1 car) but the deal may be slipping through my fingers as we speak. If I get it, I'm sure I'll be PM'ing you with questions.

In chicago the secretary of state said on some radio talk show that one of the reason's for the front plat was its use fullness in hit and runs cause the plat sometimes falls off and is left at the scene of the crime. Personally I think it looks ugly on any car or truck.

Well, I FINALLY went outside & mounted it on my car.

thats awesome man, Im sure Ill be doing something very similar this summer.

hopefully the front drag/wind doesnt smash the bolt ends into the paint.

Been 1 month & 1 day, no marks on my nose from the wind pushing.

They are 1/8" aluminum, not just flimsy sheet metal. I can't even physically push it back far eough to make contact. The metal brackets won't even bend with that enough.

Damn right. I'm so happy I live in Florida were I don't have to put that ugly plate in the front of my car doing away with it's beautiful lines.

Hell, we don't even have to have a rear plate.....mounted that is. As long as it's visible like from the rear hatch or whatever, it's ok.

yeah i've done alot of research on radar detectors and consiquently on radar and laser guns and none of them are "pinpoint" they emit something that would visually be seen as a cone (no im not saying u can see it). Anyway i remember reading that one of those laser ones would cover an area of a highway in which either 2 or 3 cars would reasonably fit while driving (so something like 50 yds?) from a distance that wasnt really that far. Although i don't rem everything from the article it was a pretty good one and i think everyone should try and read up on the stupid things.

yeah i've done alot of research on radar detectors and consiquently on radar and laser guns and none of them are "pinpoint" they emit something that would visually be seen as a cone (no im not saying u can see it). Anyway i remember reading that one of those laser ones would cover an area of a highway in which either 2 or 3 cars would reasonably fit while driving (so something like 50 yds?) from a distance that wasnt really that far. Although i don't rem everything from the article it was a pretty good one and i think everyone should try and read up on the stupid things.

Not to steal this topic but people living in Texas sign this: http://www.petitiononline.com/txplate/petition.html

Front plates cost the state alot of money to produce--and in the end cost the tax payers untold amount of money. Its a rubbish law that needs to go away.

I signed the petition right now, how many more votes do we need? lol

I am glad to in Indiana we don't have front tags.

i got my front tag in the windshield...of course im going to college in florida so i'll just take it out when i get there

New York requires a front plate. My budy just put a custom bracket on his cobalt SS with aftermarket front fascia because of multiple pull-over warnings.

OK, BACK TO THE FRONT BRACKETS. TRY REGULAR OLE SHELF BRACKETS. THEY COME IN DIFFERENT COLORS. BEND TO DESIRED ANGLE AS NEEDED. USE BOLTS ON THE TOP OF THE PLATES (I USED 10-24x3/8, WITH WASHERS), THAT'S ALL YOU NEED. DRILL THRU THE BOTTOM OF THE GROUND EFFECTS OR BUMPER, WHATEVER. BOLT IT IN TWO PLACES ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BRACKET AND YOU'RE DONE. VERY STIFF STRUCTURE, NO WORRIES ABOUT WIND PUSHING INTO BUMPER. LOOKS VERY PROFESSIONAL. REMOVE TWO TOP BOLTS/PLATE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO CLEAN BEHIND IT.

DON'T HAVE PICS YET, BUT I JUST DID TO MY BIRD AND SATURN COUPE. WHOLE JOB COST ABOUT 6 BUCKS AND TOOK 2 HOURS BOTH CARS INCLUDING MEASURING.

CIAO.

Yes, but my method required no new holes to be drilled. I used 2 existing bolts, to hold the brackets on.

I wouldn't exactly call home shelf brackets "professional looking"....Besides, those have that shaped piece in the bend for extra stiffness, which would push the brackets out almost an inch.

IT IS PROFESSIONAL. YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THE BRACKET AND EVEN WITH THE ELBOW FILET (WHICH IS 1/2", BTW), IT'S TIGHTER IN THAN YOUR PHOTO, AND NO FLEX.

NO HOLES ON 83 DAYTONA GROUND EFFECTS. ALSO, IF YOU ONLY USE ONE BOLT EA SIDE ON THE BOTTOM YOU'LL EVENTUALLY SET THE THING VIBRATING AT RESONANCE WITH WIND SPEED.

1/8 " AL IS A BIT OVERKILL, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU LIKE THE ROUGH EDGES.

OPINIONS ARE LIKE A$$HOLES, EVERYONE'S GOT ONE...

First off...Take your attitude to the curb. That kind of stuff isn't put up with here. I said nothing negative about your shelf brackets.

The aluminum is what I had laying around, so it was free.

I've checked the bolts. They haven't loosened any, so I'm not worried about it falling off.

Another thing, which I ignored in your first post......Typing in all caps is viewed as yelling, in text. Try typing in lower case and capitalizing as needed.

WELL, STEPHEN, I TOOK OFFENSE TO YOUR COMMENT. MAYBE YOUR ATTITUDE NEEDS THE CURB-KICK. THIS IS A KNOWLEDGE SHARING POST. I POSTED WHAT I HAD DONE QUITE OBJECTIVELY, WITHOUT CRITICIZING OR CHALLENGING ANYONE ELSES COMMENTS, NOR SOLICITING ANY. YOU HOWEVER FAILED TO DO THE SAME (LIKEWISE NOTED ELSEWHERE IN YOUR POSTS. SEEMS YOUR'S IS THE ONLY OPINION THAT COUNTS.

AND MY CAP-LOCK KEY IS INOP.

BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR THREAD.

Your second post ever & you start your TGO life off by offending somebody. Not a very good start. Nowhere in my 4,000 + posts do I reject others opinions.

You mentioned drilling hole in your nose...Mine mount with ZERO new bolts, require no new holes to be drilled. Nothing.

As for yours being closer...Show us a pic of yours. And how it mounts. Mine is just past the bend, maybe 1/4" from the front of the nose to the LP. The reinforcing bends in your shelf brackets have to make it stick out farther, to clear the bends. A professional would make something that FITS, not simply use generic shelf brackets. Yes, I could pull them off, bend the brackets more & angle the plate back, but It doesn't bother me enough to do so.

Besides...It's only temporary until I finish the flip-up, hidden license plate holder.

What do you think you are, (hidden license plate) James Bond????

hehe

Firebirds don't have it as easy as Camaros. Ours will hafta slide forward then flip up.

James Bond style plate holder FTW. If I had a Camaro, i'd buy that, but I don't.

Stephen, I might have to copy your idea when I finally repaint my car and replace the front bumper cover. I'm not drilling holes in it! Stupid IL laws.

how did you do that hidden james bonds style bracket for the license plate?

I only WISH I could take credit for it...

Scroll about halfway down the page.
www.hotrodders.com

I think the reason the police want front license plates is so they can run your number on their computer without having to get behind you. (checking for warrents ect) Like in parking lots and at slower speeds around town.

There was a fight in the Arizona state legislature years ago where for a couple of months we needed to run the front plates and I got the ticket for my '69 GTO but then they repealed the law... (I still had to pay the $45)

This has been my idea for a while:

I've thought about doing it that way, but hanging down like
that, it will get ripped off on the first driveway, speed bump or parking curb.

I wanna make it flip UP, yet sit back close to the nose.

I saw that video, great design, So what like somethin that comes out from under the bumper and flips in front of it

Jersey is too rigid and will probably always require the front plate. I don't agree with it at all.

This is better!!!
Motorized too!
http://www.autoattire.com/stngofrho.html

Better than what? $50 for the manual you linked to, and $150 for motorized

Mine was FREE. Just had some scrap aluminum laying around. But my plate is now sitting on my dash.

this what a friend of mine just ordered for his 2011 GT500 Cobra( I know, evil word) but I liked the holder anyway and asked because Texas requires it and I am sick of mine sitting on my dashboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz9Q-sjtJsU
this is available from www.ninosport.com for $60

Yep that one is awesome! I will probably be getting one similar to this within the next couple weeks or so, because I'm painting my bird as we speak. I don't want an ugly plate screwing up the overall look of the car.

If I had a camaro I would probably get one similar to this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0TS3...eature=related

Also P.S. the motorized one is for $130 not $60 just so you know. The $60 one is manual operation. Which in my mind is great for people who just want to hide it for shows/pics, but I'm more wanting one for hiding them from the law!! You can't exactly get away with it as easily with a manual one...

That one is 100% custom built from a power window motor & brackets he made himself, by a member of TGO years ago for his car.

i plan on doing something like that for my 3rd gen, and then the motorized stow n go on my 4th.

when i start working more and get back to having money to **** away that is.


***holy crap didnt realize how old this thread was.

Hey Stephen ,

Did he do a thread on how to build it by any chance?

I know summit racing has one:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/APR-400/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/APR-400EU/ - motorized version

Here are some pictures of the summit bracket. Pics belong to: The Project

Last time he was Online was about 2 months ago.....
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body...-007-cool.html

Bump...I found this thread & I'm gonna hafta do this for my car!

been here 4 1/2 years now and no ticket. I'm gonna wait'em out