TTW Third Gen Phantom Grill
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i hope i get proven wrong but i think this is going to end up like many other radical mods
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i don't have my z28 anymore, otherwise i would do it.
Wonder if i can find a decent thirdgen on craigslist to do the mod with
Wonder if i can find a decent thirdgen on craigslist to do the mod with
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Re: TTW Third Gen Phantom Grill
Sorry, I don't like it......it looks too much like a Mercury Capri(puke) front end.


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i personally think the first picture makes it look like your trying to give it a dodge challenger look...just need the round angle eyes and prjectors lol. if you want it to look like the 1st gens then just buy the body kit they make for the 3rd gens that look like the 5th gens. you know there are some poor 3rd gen owners out there thinking man i need a bumper and cant afford it and these guys are cutting them up! save your bumpers there are starving kids in africa!
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ive done this setup about 6 years ago on my 85 iroc i had. i wish i had pictures of it, but the car got t-boned and was a total loss. on the molded bottom grill. that would cause some major overheating issues.
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It wasn't as hard as you would think. Fiberglass kit, touch of bondo and a bit of time and patience.
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?? I started with oem. I'm not a body guy at all, but it wasn't that hard. Hardest part was making the first cut...took some time before I actually got the ***** to do it, lol.
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Not with those closed turn signal mounts, it isn't OEM urethane.....
Looks like a figerglass reproduction to me.
Looks like a figerglass reproduction to me.
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The lenses I painted over were garbage, I have new ones to be put in after I get some real paint on my car. I also have new headlights and tail lights. Still looking for the most complimentery hood. Here's a link to more dtailed picture of the operation.http://s794.photobucket.com/albums/y...t%20end%20mod/
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I was looking at your pictures, and I saw how the hood stickes out. What if your on the freeway at high speeds wouldnt the hood fly of, yeah I know the hood hinges are there and everything but after a while hopefully it doesent loosen enough to disconnect. That would be my only concern.
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I was looking at your pictures, and I saw how the hood stickes out. What if your on the freeway at high speeds wouldnt the hood fly of, yeah I know the hood hinges are there and everything but after a while hopefully it doesent loosen enough to disconnect. That would be my only concern.
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Doesn't it look kind of "Here's-my-radiator!!" in person?
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Actually in person it looks far better than the pics. This is not to say that I am not wholly undecided about wether or not to paint the stainless diamond mesh that serves to somewhat protect the radiator. If I were to paint it, I'm not sure if the radiator would stand out so much or not. I'm still working on the small details.
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nice too see someone stick to there F'in guns, and do some work.
i like it!! i wanna see it in some gloss, with fresh lights!! also i would ax the cross bar supports in front of the rad, but thats just opinion.
i like it!! i wanna see it in some gloss, with fresh lights!! also i would ax the cross bar supports in front of the rad, but thats just opinion.
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Well it is interesting, I have to wonder about messing w/ the front end structure that way, especially at speeds over 75mph, not to mention the toll it will take on the aerodynamics of the vehicle...LOL I hope it works for you...
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With all of the fiberglass resin the front actually feels stiffer than what is on my 84. My biggest concern at this point is...Will it all crack apart at higher speeds?. I'll find out in the spring and make adjustments from there.
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Keep us posted, would like to see the finished product!
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Sure will, but now I have to get back to the things that will actually make it go down the road,( finish rear end, suspension, interior, last couple things for the a/m swap) the usual. Maybe a hood too. Perhaps a new starter as I just blew the solenoid.
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To me it looks like a chevy celebrity with a camaro body kit... Just my 
More power to ya tho for doin' somthing pretty ballsy... Looking forward to see the (painted) finished project...

More power to ya tho for doin' somthing pretty ballsy... Looking forward to see the (painted) finished project...
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The one with the opening looks like theres too much going on there.
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The lenses I painted over were garbage, I have new ones to be put in after I get some real paint on my car. I also have new headlights and tail lights. Still looking for the most complimentery hood. Here's a link to more dtailed picture of the operation.http://s794.photobucket.com/albums/y...t%20end%20mod/
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Re: TTW Third Gen Phantom Grill
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...me-pics-6.html
Check out this thread, someone has done this (middle of the page their is a couple of pics)
Check out this thread, someone has done this (middle of the page their is a couple of pics)
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I'm wondering what it would look like with a 1/2" piece across the front just under the hood, and then moved the lights and grill forward to match up with it?
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This is what you should do w it... make it just like the challenger grille w the camaro emblem on the left and z28 on the right. same mesh and all. only thing that makes me cringe is the look of the lip under the new grille. the original eyelid lip goin all the way across...... might not look good(silver camaro above^^^)
Other than that this looks sick!
Other than that this looks sick!
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the front end is to pointy. not sure of the dimensions of an 80's monte carlo front end, or if it could even be used for a thirdgen, but take a look at how they look just like a camaro bumper (well a mushed in version). use this bumper to do your mod on... idk its what came to mind when i saw this...
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f...+front_end.jpg
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f...+front_end.jpg
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No, just no....
The ledge that will be left there will be too long and just look not very proportionate. The part above the headlights will need to be lengthened to reduce the difference between the top and the ledge or what will likely become a bench to some people.
The only other way to make it look right is to shorten the area below the headlights, a-la the Monte Carlo as suggested above.
The ledge that will be left there will be too long and just look not very proportionate. The part above the headlights will need to be lengthened to reduce the difference between the top and the ledge or what will likely become a bench to some people.
The only other way to make it look right is to shorten the area below the headlights, a-la the Monte Carlo as suggested above.
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i dont like it at all. Its not aerodynamic at all. I know the two buckets in the cars now arent aerodynamic but yeah not digging it at all. the setback grille remind me of why they came out with the daytona charger back in 69 because the setback grille on the 68 and 69 dodge chargers caused too much drag
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makes it sorta look like an elcamino. if you want it all blacked out, why not put on some light covers and paint the middle portion f the nose gloss black along with the headlight buckets







Might not get out till spring






