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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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how can i rig my e brake so i dont have to push the button down to put it back down. so i can just pull it up to start a slide and let it down easily?
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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you're joking, right?
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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I usually use duck tape to hold the button down then it's easily reversible for street use. This is on front drive stuff though, I'm not sure what auto boxes think of handbrake turns?
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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auto box?
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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and no. im not joking. so if you cant give me the info i want dont post stupid stuff please.
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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thanks. ill check it out tonight when i get home
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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I would be careful about throwing out the word stupid before posting on how to disable a safety feature of the car.

Oh wait, I just looked up your profile. You're 17 years old... that explains it
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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youre not giving me any advice about disabling this safety feature. So youre posts ARE stupid.
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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****BAD IDEA****
but if you're hell-bent on it for some reason, pull the cover off the centre console, you'll see the latching mechanism. i don't remember if it's a screw holding it or a pin, unscrew/drill it out and remove latch. WHY you'd want to do this is beyond me as it takes no effort whatsoever to hold the button down as you pull it and release and it makes your brake useless for its original purpose; that is, parking.
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the button is there because there is a ratchet mechanism in the brake handle to keep tension on the cables so the brake stays engaged when you leave the car. Without it, the brakes will only work when you are actively pulling on the parking brake.

You car is an auto, so you really dont need the parking brake to keep the car in place, so if you take the handle apart you can remove the button.

Why are you looking to do this anyway? your just going to end up wrecking the car eventually. Besides, you "350" should have no problem breaking the rear tires loose in a turn is you want it to.
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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
if you take the handle apart you can remove the button.
Removing the button leaves the ratchet mechanism in place, it will either need to be propped open or removed to prevent accidental engagement with no way of unlocking it
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drifting is the reason i want to do this. so i can lock up the tires. start the slide and drop the brake instead of push it down and counter steer out. it will just make things easier. and i dont use it to park anyway.
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i hope you live in a part of the country that doesn't have safety inspections....

sure fire FAIL
Old Jan 30, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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drifting is the reason i want to do this. so i can lock up the tires. start the slide and drop the brake instead of push it down and counter steer out. it will just make things easier. and i dont use it to park anyway.
That's what people do that don't have enough power to brake the tires loose. You should have plenty of power for that with a 350. Instead of tampering with safety devices on your car, you should learn how to drive.
I just see this as great potential for a wreck when you try to slide your car around some street corner with the e-brake.
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I say live and learn. we know the cars weren't developed with a e brake that actually locked the tires on turns, i originally mentioned how to do disable the ebrake button, but retracted the post. Its cool. Its life. I speak on behalf the dudes that have these ideas, i say let them flow. Research and development is the key to the future, through trial and error we learn. This dude is very enthusiastic about the cars from over twenty years ago. This dude isnt an idiot, he's merely a another cool dude. although the brakes in the rear will burn up fast, create hot spots on the rotors, wrapped rotors, flat spots on the tires, unbalanced tires, and eventually, brake failure. But typical on the bimmer boards that isnt a problem, cough money.

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I understand that that is the thing to do for drifting which is a lot of fun. But if you disable it, it will be very easy for something to accidentally get under it and pull it up. I would try the tape idea or fabricate your own way to turn it on and off. This way it will still operate correctly for regular driving.
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well yeah duct tape will work for sure. thats what i was thinking about but i wanted something that would be not so "ghetto". something a little more finished.
and im not going to drift around street corners because obviously thats dangerous. i have some private land with paved roads to go to.
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Originally Posted by TheREVOLUTION22
well yeah duct tape will work for sure. thats what i was thinking about but i wanted something that would be not so "ghetto". something a little more finished.
and im not going to drift around street corners because obviously thats dangerous. i have some private land with paved roads to go to.
I was thinking about this. What I came up with is if you have any metal working skills you could build a handle that slips over with a pint to hold it in place and a cap so it hold the button down without the chance of it letting go. Another reason this would be good is that you can make the handle go anywhere that is comfortable for you to grab fast. Can't remember his name, but the guy that drives the Viper Drift Car, if you have ever seen the inside he has a fabricated handle along with the stock. It is located and shaped so he can comfortably grab it quick.
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i agree, in vw bugs, they do this all the time in the sand. They typically have two handles up to three. they are remotely connected to the brake line itself i think. When one pulls up on the right handle the right side of the car slows down only, vice versa with the left handle. I work on a bug all the time and i come across these mods, www.CBperformance.com has them to check out based on the engineering design of it. i would be surprised if theres a company who makes these specific brake levers for circle tracks
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the cover is a great idea! i wouldve never thought of that. im no expert in metal working. but i can give it a shot
Old Jan 31, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Drifting is gaining speed in AZ, some of the kids out here are pretty darn good at it too! I enjoy all types of racing so it is all good. Now not my cup of tea, I prefer to go faster and far less style involved in my road racing.

I would think that if this plans to be a full time drifting car you would want a permanent fix to this issue correcting both the lock-out and ease of use wearing a full 5pt harness. I would recommend taking the original handle off the car and making a replacement handle with no locking feature, or removing the locking feature and making the handle stronger. Remember these handles were not made to be used under heavy loads for long periods of time. If you plan on putting a lot of stress on the handle, weld a strip of angle iron across the top near the pivot point to add strength up to the handle.
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as of right now its not a full time drifting car. but the cover would be a good idea for now.. and yes. eventually it will be full time drifting car. and i do want it to have no lock feature. im working on rebuilding a carbeurator too im just getting this stuff done slowly. im still in school and sports so i dont have much time...
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Drifting is gaining speed in AZ, some of the kids out here are pretty darn good at it too! I enjoy all types of racing so it is all good. Now not my cup of tea, I prefer to go faster and far less style involved in my road racing.

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gaining???? hahahah drifting has been around for a while, trial by fire has been running events for years ive been going to tucson for as long as i can remember!

As for the e brake thing... i was toying with that idea (not for myself!)
just for the sake of curiosity, i was thinking of pushing the button down, then drilling a hole thru the entire handle and then just putting a pin in there to keep it in place, hopefully that helps
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That's what people do that don't have enough power to brake the tires loose. You should have plenty of power for that with a 350. Instead of tampering with safety devices on your car, you should learn how to drive.
I just see this as great potential for a wreck when you try to slide your car around some street corner with the e-brake.

really? not enough power? is that why they use an e brake for drifting? that funny because i thought that its a simple alternative to over revving the gear and putting too much power into a drift causing you to spin out....hmm thats strange, maybe you should go to japan and europe and slap those guys silly for not pushing the gas a little harder

and traditionally people who want to drift, either A. slide a street corner and die like you said, or B. go to a track and practice like an intelligent person, i like to call it natural selection lol keeps me safer when im at an event


and as for your car being a drift car, ditch that carb, its a hunk of junk on the track, switch to a FI system, easier to manage and alot more efficient
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Well seems that Blu is in my neck of the desert... I mean that drifting was not held at most NASA / SCCA / PRO-Auto sports events. Now they might be running with other venues but those are the ones that I hang with so the others I do not know. You should stop by sometime and check out my Camaro.....
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tbh i'd rather just burn the rubber or bring it to a track. i would never drift my camaro. Reason I bought a Muscle Car, otherwise would have gotten an Import.

Why'd you buy a muscle car if u wanted to drift it >_< thats suttin you do in an import. Drift your '06 Scion tC not the camaro.

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Well Gl with your endeavours and btw gl with the not crashing part.
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tbh i'd rather just burn the rubber or bring it to a track. i would never drift my camaro. Reason I bought a Muscle Car, otherwise would have gotten an Import.

Why'd you buy a muscle car if u wanted to drift it >_< thats suttin you do in an import. Drift your '06 Scion tC not the camaro.

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Well Gl with your endeavours and btw gl with the not crashing part.
There are a lot of haters on this thread. I like to drive my IROC at about 5mph on South Beach with the T-Tops off. Does that make me a bad person? Why not introduce some American muscle to drifting? Because it has already been done, that's why. Maybe you didn't know that the national champion drives a Dodge Viper, or that one of the preferred cars is a crapstang or maybe you just didn't know that the car has to be a rear wheel drive that makes good power to pull out of those slides. Sounds like the perfect venue for a low profile muscle car to me.
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Originally Posted by BluFBdy
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and as for your car being a drift car, ditch that carb, its a hunk of junk on the track, switch to a FI system, easier to manage and alot more efficient
Do you have any idea how many g's people do with carb'd motors? Not necessarily his carb'd motor, but still, that's a bad generalization you make. From someone elses perspective, carb's can be easier to manage, almost as efficient as FI, and a whole lot cheaper.
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i originally bought my camaro thinking im just going to drive it for just a regular old daily drive car. well i had more money and bought my tC. ive wanted one since they first came out in like 04 or 05.

as for drifting my tC? if you know anything, you would realize that the tC is FWD and the camaro is RWD so its an obvious choice which car im going to drift with. and why not introduce them more? P-ROC was right about the viper but he also forgot about the falken drift camaro too... even though its a '69 and not a thirdgen.
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Thirdgen drifting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ERW_...eature=related

Falken Camaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNtBeoAWMU
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WOW! this thread went south in a hurry, I thought the question was "How to disarm the safety latch in a brake handle for drifting" not "Drifting? In a Camaro?..." If you want to discuss drifting, and if it should be done in a Camaro start your own page in the "general" section... opinions are like a$$holes everybody's got one.

The handle cover sounds like a great idea for a street/track car! good luck!

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as for drifting my tC? if you know anything, you would realize that the tC is FWD and the camaro is RWD so its an obvious choice which car im going to drift with. and why not introduce them more? P-ROC was right about the viper but he also forgot about the falken drift camaro too... even though its a '69 and not a thirdgen.

+1... drifting kinda requires RWD....

BP - im up in queen creek for the next month but ill be stationed down at huachuca around august and ill have my camaro down there with me lol
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well i guess the questiuon was how can i do it so that i can drift easier. so it kind of is about drifting in a way... right?
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Nice video's. Kinda makes me want one now.
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Nice video's. Kinda makes me want one now.
yeah i was even more inspired to turn my camaro into a drift car. i kinda got away from drifting for a while but then i saw that thirdgen drifting and was like damn. i want that.
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I was also wondering about how to do this. I dont see how its such a bad idea if you have an automatic. I like the idea about drilling a hole and just having a pin hold the button down. Cuz then you could just take the pin out when your done drifting and it would be back to normal. And btw 58mark im 17 too haha
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I put in a pic of the handle idea. I got mad powerpoint skills.
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I put in a pic of the handle idea. I got mad powerpoint skills.
nice work! haha mad powerpoint skills.....
but yeah this is a great idea for now
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just got more snow during the night so i had to go have some fun in the snow...
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Wow that first pic was really sweet! How did you take that? I also got snow this morning lol and i made sure to get to school extra early to do some drifting in the parking lot. I live in green bay btw. I just noticed it says you live in wisconsin too
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haha i have the GoPro HD motorsports hero camera... suction cup on the hood

yeah im down in southwest wisconsin between madison and lacrosse
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O nice.
Ok but anyways, back to the main topic... have you gotten anywhere with that e- brake? Cuz i was thinking bout doin that too.
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Re: E Brake question...

no i havent. im not sure when exactly ill have time to for a little while. my ebrake is not even hooked up at the moment too...
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Re: E Brake question...

i just though of an even better idea IMO. not that had a bad idea...
im thinking i can just go to a junkyard and buy the stock piece that comes off of the ebrake handle. take the leather off and attach a flat piece to the button end of it that will depress the button when slid over the handle. but then i will have to move the hole forward towards the button end to allow for the distance on the buttons travel... right?

like this...
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Re: E Brake question...

dfirting is for ricers!
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Re: E Brake question...

ok look if you have a z28 with a 350 in it then you should hve no problem braking the tires loose most people cant control it there for the should not try it if you have to yank the e brake you doing somthing wrong so stop while the car is still in one piece
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Re: E Brake question...

people dont post stuff not realted to the topic of my handle. idc if you think drifting is for ricers, i own a japanese car too.
and stop while the cars still in one piece? wtf.
i would say the danger in drifting is right with any other type of racing.
but if i wanted to drag race my car, it would be ok?
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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Re: E Brake question...

Originally Posted by 87_ta_305_4bbl
ok look if you have a z28 with a 350 in it then you should hve no problem braking the tires loose most people cant control it there for the should not try it if you have to yank the e brake you doing somthing wrong so stop while the car is still in one piece
Ok, so no one posts this again, the reason to use the e-brake is because it is the most predictable way to start the drift as well as a way to controle the car mid slide. It has nothing to do with power. Pro drift cars with 900hp tt LSxs still use an e-breake when needed. (FYI I don't drift my GTA and never will, however, I do spectate at many drift events both pro and amiture. The drivers are usually willing to answer any questions and explain tecniques) TheREVOLUTION2, as was said earlier, an average e-brake uses a stationary gear connected to the floor and a paw connected to the base of the handle thats controled by the button. Remove the paw and you're good.
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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Re: E Brake question...

Check out this rice'r!


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