get some subframe connectors first!, and perhaps upgrade the rear suspension with square tube rear lower control arms and a pan-hard bar. also replace the clamp style tie rod connectors with solid sleeves, replace the bushings in the sway bars with poly and Teflon grease and torque to specs<---trust me on this one!! balance the tires everyweek, its cheap, and the rotors laved every month. i mean if you are hardcore about drifting. i busted my stock torque arm bushing drifting it was awesome. BAM. But never used my ebrake,
id simply touch the brakes, shift the weight to front of the car and then went full throttle to break the tires loose while traveling 34mph while going into a turn.. the experience even helped me out when my brake booster was shot all-of-sudden in 06' Anyways the rear diff could use a fluid change with new additive to help the clutches in the diff. and the transmission should be topped off to prevent dry pickup. dirt road and wet concrete are the best ways to build up confidants.

 

I agree. I cant see drifting being much harder on your car than drag racing.

 

well yeah.. your putting tension on the suspension components with a hard force and then having to carry thaqt tension throughout the drift of cousrse youre gonna snap things, make sure you get SFC's like the previous poster said, you wanna tighten up the suspension and create the least amount of sway as possible


and P-Roc when the hell did a viper become japanese? if youre not gonna post something productive let it go. and that goes for everyone not just P-Roc

 

and P-Roc when the hell did a viper become japanese? if youre not gonna post something productive let it go. and that goes for everyone not just P-Roc[/quote]
I believe he was being sarcastic. because someone posted that only ricers drift...

 

my bad, regardless what someone wants to do with their car is their choice, as long as its RWD you can pull it off with enough time and money invested

 

TRUE

 

I could have answered this a while back but I'm not on here as often as I used to be. The Ebrake on these cars isn't really strong enough to initiate a drift. I have 11 inch brakes in the rear of my car, but somehow there's just not enough leverage.

 

what do you suggest i do?

 

Use other techniques.

 

thanks for the help.

 

there is the option of a hydraulic e brake setup, that would put enough tension on the rear brakes to lock em up, our cars handle like land yachts and its an easy way to initiate a drift, i accidentally broke the rear loose going onto the freeway onramp, went thru first and then shifted it into second, apparently i dumped the clutch too fast cuz the rear started to slide out maybe thatd help

 

In the south we have always called it dirt trackin' long before the Fast and Furious movies. Only the inexperienced drivers use the e-brake.

 

only inexperienced drivers use an ebrake?
on a dirt track.
im not gonna drift on dirt. that would make YOU an inexperienced driver. you have to be on dirt to make your car slide?...

 

the only thing ive ever used dirt for is getting a feel for my car before i took it on the track and that was yeaaaarrrs ago like sadi before the e-brake is the easiest way to initiate the drift rather than laying into the gas and running the risk of over spinning it, when you put more power into it there is a higher chance of not being able to countersteer correctly, you can thank the weight of the rear and the boat like qualities are cars have for that lol

 

Thank you BluFBdy.
and for the fast and the furious movies. i hate how everybody thinks that the people that want to drift are all the same. as in we saw tokyo drift and now we wanna be drifters?
im sure thats the case with some but i was into drifting before tokyo drift came out.

 

Long, long, long before those movies made it popular people was doing it around here. Dirt or pavement we still call it dirt trackin'. The reason is we had a lot of dirt roads until a few years ago.

 

Hey man I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, I got tired of reading through all the crotchety boring people just flaming you down. Anyways, IF you are doing this for the only reason that comes to my mind when anyone mentions E-brake locking, amateur drifters who can’t afford hydraulic e-brakes use “spin caps” or “spin-*****.” It’s a metal/plastic cap that slides over the button on the e-brake and when it’s pushed in IT STAYS IN, and when pulled out, your e-brake functions normally. Look into man, hope this helps!

-Ut Prosim

 

ok ill check on it. thanks

 

Um, no... the parking pawl in the transmission was designed to keep the transmission from turning when you put it in park (for various reasons) NOT for holding the the car from moving when it's parked. it's about the thickness of a pencil and nowhere near strong enough to hold the car on anything but the smallest hill. Ever notice how when you park the car on any hill and don't set the parking brake it's harder to get out of park? That's the side load on the parking pawl that you're working against. Eventually you'll bend it and not be able to get it out of park or break it and it won't hold in park.

Second, have you actually tried doing what you're suggesting by holding the button? Stock 3rd gen parking brakes don't tend to be that good (hopefully you don't have original design rear disc parking brakes, they may not work at all, by now I would guess that they've all been replaced). At the very least to do what you're talking about well I'd expect you'll probably need a much longer parking brake lever to get better leverage, but if I was serious I'd probably redesign the setup.

Finally, you're getting all the crap not because you're thinking of drifting a 3rd gen, we have people here that do it and know what they're doing, don't get crap about it, but because of the way you asked the question and the way you responded to people, clearly setting off their "dumb kid" and "this guy doesn't have a clue what he's doing" alerts...

 

What you do in the car isnt my business. But like a few have said, the park brake kinda sucks on these cars.

Look into whats called a turning brake. Usually they are used in dune buggies, and Baja bugs. Someone already mentioned this, but its the best way. It uses the vehicles hydraulic brakes to activate one wheel at a time, not just the little pads used for the park mechanism. Some VW guys even use them for a line lock, or staging brake. That will retain the factory park brake, and should give sufficient clamping force to actually lock up the wheels. They have two handles, so you can either lock left, right, or both at the same time.

Ive been away from VWs for a long time, but try Larrys offroad, or VW paradise. Shouldnt be more than $150 for a sweet unit, with two handles, and its own reservoirs.

 

Finally, you're getting all the crap not because you're thinking of drifting a 3rd gen, we have people here that do it and know what they're doing, don't get crap about it, but because of the way you asked the question and the way you responded to people, clearly setting off their "dumb kid" and "this guy doesn't have a clue what he's doing" alerts...[/quote]

you know what? just to make you all happy ill never come back to this site again. you dont have to hear about what im doing to my car. ill do whatever i want and not have to worry about people being *******s to me.
so this is my last post. after i log off. im not coming back.

 

Way to show us... it's not like you're even going to take something useful away from us when you leave...


Sorry for trying to give you some useful information (about your car and your demeanor). Funny, I'm getting to be kind of an old fart around here and all I can think is that when I was young and stupid and _thought_ I knew everything I still wouldn't dare to act like some of you "kids" around here (and in general, for a while I taught college level classes and couldn't believe some of what I saw there). I guess around 20 years ago was about the end of "if you acted like a jackass someone might just kick your *** for it..." (basically you might just get what you deserve) Now for the most part parents don't spank their kids, people don't kick someone's *** when they deserve it, almost no one is expected to be responsible for their actions... I think that our society really lost something with that change.

 

somebody lock this thread. its over.