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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Fuel Cell size and location

wishing to add a fuel cell to my 1991 rebuild any ideas on best size and location? i'd prefer to locate it in original location but have concerns about size and suspension travel ( cell hitting rear )

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Interested in any comments others will have on your question, I have the same idea i have been toying with.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 02:05 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

I am building a fuel cell that fits in the luggage area. It should hold about 16 gal. It will have a sump that sticks out through the bottom. I am also thinking about adding a neck on the side to utilize the factory fuel door. I still need to design a lid to cover it once its installed. This is a picture of what I have started. It looks like a mini truck toolbox.

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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

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I am building a fuel cell that fits in the luggage area. It should hold about 16 gal. It will have a sump that sticks out through the bottom. I am also thinking about adding a neck on the side to utilize the factory fuel door. I still need to design a lid to cover it once its installed. This is a picture of what I have started. It looks like a mini truck toolbox.

Nice design. Honestly since there is limited fuel cell options on these cars you could easily sell those.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Thanks. I will see how it turns out. Im not sure what kind of liability would be involved with a fuel cell. I was going to order the street kit from ed quay. I think its only 11gal though. I wanted something that would be closer to the stock tank in capacity.

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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

You planning on putting some type of firewall between the top of the fuel cell and the interior of the car?
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Yes. Once the cell is finished I will work on a firewall to separate it from the driver. With using the factory fuel door location to fill the tank. It will eliminate the possibility of spilling fuel inside the car while filling the cell.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

88iroc383.blogspot.com

This blog shows my fuel cell and the hole cut for it. I am building a sheet steel box that will line the hold, house the cell, and have a firewall lid for the rules. I will have pictues of the box on there soon.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

I think a fourth gen tank will fit our cars, which stands to reason a 4th gen cell also would. There is one here: http://www.nastyperformance.com/93-97F-Body.html. It might take a little modification, but I would think it would work. I don't know of the quality of this company or their products, but I have thought about this for the formy, just haven't gotten that far with it yet. Anybody try one? it's got to be easier than trying to build your own. Ryan
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

I got a fuel cell in my car. It is SUPER not legal though as it is in the cabin with me. I cut a hole in the floor and made a cover. Maybe someday I will weld a cover over it and add some sort of door for safety... No idea. It is a 15 gallon cell from summit.

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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

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I got a fuel cell in my car. It is SUPER not legal though as it is in the cabin with me. I cut a hole in the floor and made a cover. Maybe someday I will weld a cover over it and add some sort of door for safety... No idea. It is a 15 gallon cell from summit.

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fixed your link...

and..thats so dangerous in a street driven car, its not funny.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

I saw a aluminum fuel cell in 91-2 firehawk a few weeks ago. It was in the stock location.

I've always wanted to remove the deep well in the trunk and make it flat across the fram rails and then build a monster 25 gall cell under the car that uses the factory fuel neck and twin intank monster pumps..
I just couldnt bring myself to cut up my car..
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Just an FYI guys you can make a removable cover for the fuel cell. A few local guys have covers that are removable with zues connectors.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

sump the factory tank and call it a day
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Originally Posted by xpndbl3
sump the factory tank and call it a day
This too.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Why sump it? Tthe factory tank is a wedge. I just drilled a hole and added a short bulkhead before I had a cell.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

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Why sump it? Tthe factory tank is a wedge. I just drilled a hole and added a short bulkhead before I had a cell.
Obviously you don't know vary much about race cars. If you don't sump the tank how will you ever raise the coolness factor about the car? I don't know about you but coolness of a car is allot more important the functionality.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Originally Posted by TTOP350
I saw a aluminum fuel cell in 91-2 firehawk a few weeks ago. It was in the stock location.

I've always wanted to remove the deep well in the trunk and make it flat across the fram rails and then build a monster 25 gall cell under the car that uses the factory fuel neck and twin intank monster pumps..
I just couldnt bring myself to cut up my car..
I will get some pics of mine posted tomorrow. I did exactly this same thing. I didn't use twin in tank pumps, I'm using an A1000 external setup.

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

If I'm not mistaken I think BlueBeast did something similar to his car. Don't quote me though.
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Mine. With piano hinged lid and 3m weatherstripping around it to make it as air tight as possible. Theres more at my blog. The passenger side corner got kind of screwed up so I'm going to get those like leather breif case end caps to make them nice.

I had to rattle can black so no rust tries to pop up on me in the mean time before I get time to paint the car. It sits on top of the panhard top brace. And the locating tabs on the sides are bolted through.
22guage steel. .033'' thick. Made it to nhra spec which is min .028 I believe.
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 04:38 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

I have been wrestling with this idea for a while. There is a company that makes a sumped aluminum cell that is made to fit our cars, but I cannot recall the company... Gotta be NHRA legal...
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Here is a pic of my approach to the fuel cell problem. I did have to cut out the well and sheet over it but, I gained alot of area underneath. The bars actually hold the tank up against the bottom of the car. I added four tabs on the corners just for piece of mind. It's still in the construction phase so please excuse the mess.

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Originally Posted by Orangepeeler
Here is a pic of my approach to the fuel cell problem. I did have to cut out the well and sheet over it but, I gained alot of area underneath. The bars actually hold the tank up against the bottom of the car. I added four tabs on the corners just for piece of mind. It's still in the construction phase so please excuse the mess.
Thats pretty slick, where did you get that cell and what size is it?
and are you nhra compliant? Those rules on thickness
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Originally Posted by Zipacna
Thats pretty slick, where did you get that cell and what size is it?
and are you nhra compliant? Those rules on thickness
I had the cell custom built so I'm not sure on the capacity. It was built with .120 wall aluminum so I'm sure that it is strong enough. I would think that it should be NHRA compliant. It's basically in the stock location and not inside the cabin of the car. The cell does not hang below any part of the chassis or body. I'll have to read the rule book to see though.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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Re: Fuel Cell size and location

Originally Posted by grover85
Obviously you don't know vary much about race cars. If you don't sump the tank how will you ever raise the coolness factor about the car? I don't know about you but coolness of a car is allot more important the functionality.
True statement.
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