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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

Time: 2 Hours
Level: Intermediate
Material: All depends how you fabricate everything. Me; a stick of 1x12 12g steel, nuts, bolts, saw, drill, screw driver, solder iron, solder, heat shrink, sticky pads & zip ties (think i forgot something but cant figure what it is)

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I went to the local junkyard and removed a coolant jug from a 93 firebird v6, these jugs are all in 93-02 firebirds (i think camaros as well); but are located in the front bumper. Takes a bit of maneuvering when you have a front end collision firebird and try removing one of these! So bring a socket set and crow bar if needed. Cost me $16 to purchase this and remove it myself from the junkyard.



I then went to the local advance auto parts and purchased a new washer pump and 10' of 7/32 tubing (if im not mistaken what stock is). Total came to $25.



Park your car in a nice warm area to work... luckily i was able to go in after hours at my job and use our shop.



Just so you know I own a 1989 rs camaro 305tbi; it had duct work infront of the radiator because i put a z28 nose on. So i had to remove the duct to maneuver.

I then measured out how much of the steel i needed to make the brackets. It came out to being 2"-1.5"-2.5" (up right down)



I raised the jug to where i wanted to line up the brackets and sharpied lines to where i want to bolt these. I drilled a 1/4-20 taped hole into the front to hold the jug and 2, 8-32 in the rear; one over the other.
I used the top screw as a stud to hold it up while the bottom i nuted in the rear. Just so you know you'll have to drill these holes yourself and if you drill a hole above 1/4" from the radiator support frame its a boxed stamped steel frame so you wont be able to get through.
After holes were drilled i underbody coated the brackets because thats all i had available; you could paint these whatever you want, even vomit rainbows over them if you'd like.

Pictures below show them mounted and nutted on.





I then bolted the jug on with 1/4-20 1/2" 1/4-20 flat washer and a nylon nut (keep in mind that i did tap the bracket so its not necessary to have a nut if you did but i like to be extra per-cautious.



After I got this in I made a extended wire-harness for the pigtail of the connector that connects to the pump. I want to advise you all that the connector is the same as the thirdgens but with smaller gauge wire. Our stock thirdgen wire is 18gauge while the fourth gens have 20 gauge wire. So if you'd like you may use the connector you already have, i cut about 4 inches into the wire off and added about 5' of red & blue 18 gauge wire. I tinned both ends and heat shrunk them. You dont have to do this you may use butt connectors but i work for a company that builds junction boxes and circuits so i have the tools for this. I like to be a little nicey-nice with my wire jobs. :P

(left is fourth gen - right is thirdgen)

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

I do advise it gets a bit cramp so i ran all my wires and hoses from the bottom of the jug and used sticky bases and zip-ties along the bottom to make it nice. I also slit-loomed alot of this so the wires and hose doesnt rub to much against the body.







A heads up, if you aren't able to find stock thin wiper coolant hoses, then be advise you'll have to drill out a bit more of the hole that the hose runs through on the firewall. I used a thin uni-bit and ran about 2 hole sizes bigger. Ran very easy through after, since advance had thick hoses only. (might be new design for pressures) Once through and connected to the T you're all set. Don't worry about the trim that has the wirenet that catches all the debre, it pops out just use a flat head screw driver and theres two tabs and one end to pop and reach in.
Then remove old thirdgen stock coolant jug (you could do this in the beginning but i was to lazy and if i screwed up atleast i could revert to it without hassle)

After that your finished product may look something like this..





Just to add I used the stock cap and filter to make it look nice imo.






If you have any questions please ask.

I tried the best I could to make an easy how-to on this for others.



Enjoy.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

good write up man... you think yours was a tight fit, check out mine lol

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...en-washer.html
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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good write up man... you think yours was a tight fit, check out mine lol

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...en-washer.html
I saw that; i was a bit surprised but did you remove or even have radiator support brackets? The one that criss-crosses? I know I was trying to work around a few things without having to remove the body, just small plastics to make it easier.

Good job man!
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

the one you are talking about i think is the one i had to remove for the intercooler, and we had to cut a bit of the brace for the bumper as well but the bottom bolt hole wasnt being used anymore anyways due to intercooler

*edit...reading that again the criss cross round bars are still on there in front of the radiator they werent in the way at all

looking at your pics...i wonder if my headlight bar is going to fit back on. hmmm

thats going to blow if its in the way ha ha
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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the one you are talking about i think is the one i had to remove for the intercooler

looking at your pics...i wonder if my headlight bar is going to fit back on. hmmm

thats going to blow if its in the way ha ha
good luck! that would stink if it doesnt fit :\ just install a bulb car and 12 PIAA lights
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

well if it doesnt i guess ill be doing a little more cutting than planned lol
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 02:37 AM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

[QUOTE=Pillsbry10;4782103]looking at your pics...i wonder if my headlight bar is going to fit back on. hmmm/QUOTE]

I'd guess (going by pictures) not an issue. Same mounting height (or depth, I guess), his is just more forward to clear the latch support.

if you aren't able to find stock thin wiper coolant hoses
Coolant ? Is that next to the blinker fluid and high speed muffler bearings ? lol... I couldn't resist.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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Coolant ? Is that next to the blinker fluid and high speed muffler bearings ? lol... I couldn't resist.
high speed wipers need ample coolant flow or they will melt to the windsheild
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

This thread is hilarious...
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

[quote=deadbird;4782254]
Originally Posted by Pillsbry10
looking at your pics...i wonder if my headlight bar is going to fit back on. hmmm/QUOTE]

I'd guess (going by pictures) not an issue. Same mounting height (or depth, I guess), his is just more forward to clear the latch support.

Coolant ? Is that next to the blinker fluid and high speed muffler bearings ? lol... I couldn't resist.
haha; i dont know; i went to advance and they had "wiper coolant hoses", some generic looking box with 6' of it. So i was using there words.



Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
high speed wipers need ample coolant flow or they will melt to the windsheild
haha
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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Coolant ? Is that next to the blinker fluid and high speed muffler bearings ? lol... I couldn't resist.
Some new trucks now (diesels) take "exhaust fluid" for emissions. No joke.
IF this was 15 years ago, I'd be asking if you had to use a left handed screwdriver to change it.

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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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high speed wipers need ample coolant flow or they will melt to the windsheild
Ahh... I see, I didn't think of that since I'm still running just stock performance wipers.
Originally Posted by anesthes
Some new trucks now (diesels) take "exhaust fluid" for emissions. No joke.
IF this was 15 years ago, I'd be asking if you had to use a left handed screwdriver to change it.

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I have actually seen that.
Left handed screwdriver would be kept next to your metric crescent wrench, right ? lol

I'm done derailing this post now

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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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Ahh... I see, I didn't think of that since I'm still running just stock performance wipers.
I have actually seen that.
Left handed screwdriver would be kept next to your metric crescent wrench, right ? lol

I'm done derailing this post now
haahaha thaaaanks
i just hope this how-to gives a bit more explanation than most other threads i saw do about this. Just want to try to help the community out.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

I honestly have never thought of this, and this is now on my future list of mods. Thanks man.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:34 AM
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I honestly have never thought of this, and this is now on my future list of mods. Thanks man.
Np, hopefully this thread helps you in your progress of doing the mod.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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I'm going to have to hit a junkyard now and find that. Just have to find the time between both of my cars and the huge list of things I need to do. And school, work, and social life.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

Did you make any brackets to support the bottom of the bottle? Looks a little flimsy with just two 'skyhooks' holding it in place...
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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Re: How To: 4TH Gen Windshield Washer Jug

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Did you make any brackets to support the bottom of the bottle? Looks a little flimsy with just two 'skyhooks' holding it in place...
It's not held on at the bottom of the bottle on a 4th gen either
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by micktroup2
Did you make any brackets to support the bottom of the bottle? Looks a little flimsy with just two 'skyhooks' holding it in place...
I did notice that, i used big black zipties and ran through the bottom holes on both sides and wraped it around the hood latch bracket between them. I'm still deciding on a design of how i want to bracket them to hold them back a bit rather than forward. But thanks for noticing! I forgot to mention about that.

When i did remove the jug the 4th gen doesnt have a bracket on the car to mount the bottom holes; which i found odd.. but thanks and this is a good headsup for others. this will be a bit flimsy, though narrow space you got about a quarter inch of space of wobble room back and forth!

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