Hey guys, I need some help here.I'm curently in a bet with a friend of mine, that says that there were never any 3rd gen ws6's made but I've got a chance to buy one. does anyone have any info that would help me out???

 

Dude, you won the bet because just about all 3rd gen Trans Am's were all WS6's. Both of my Trans Am's have WS6.

 

LOL!

Man some people really are clueless. Tell your 4thgen loving friend to open mouth and insert foot. Have him open his wallet while he is at it.

Oh yea, may as well add...
WS6 was available starting in 1978, and has been ever since. Tell that to your friend.

 

BA ! 3rd gen WS6's are an urban myth, dont believe it!

We can all thank the 4th gens for inventing this neat handling package!




Don

 

tell him to go look at any 3rd gen Formula hub cap or SPID codes.
My car has both.

 

Hahaha, dont u hate when u get smartasses like that, think they know what they talking about, but deep inside u say what a dumbass! No offense to your friend, but i know how that feels. Like these guys said WS6 has been around before 4th gen, so your right.

 

DOES ANYONE HAVE PICS OF ONE W/THE WS6 BADGES (DECALS) ON THE CAR THAT IS ORIGINAL, BECAUSE THE ONE I SEEN HAD THEM INSIDE AND OUT. WAS THIS ORIGNAL OR MOCK-UP???MY BUDDY SAID HE HAS CONTACTED PONTIAC PERFORMANCE AND GM AND HE SAYS THAT BOTH PLACES HAVE TOLD HIM THAT THERE WAS NOT A "WS6"PRODUCED BEFORE SEPT '97.YOU KNOW THIS REALLY TURNING INTO A PISSING CONTEST T'WEEN HIM AND I. HE ALSO SAYS HE HAS PHONE#'s AND NAMES OF PEOPLE AT THESE PLACES THAT WILL BACK HIM UP, ONE GUY EVEN TRIED TO SELL HIM A BOOK!! I KNOW I'M RIGHT, I JUST NEED 200% PROOF POSITIVE FOR HIM TO SHUT THE F UP. THANKS AGIAN

 

Most of those 4th generation lovers don't even know what WS-6 stands for.They think it is just the Ram Air hood scoop.

 

How much did you win??

 

There were no WS-6 Badges produced for the 2nd and 3rd gens as far as I know. That was a 4th gen thing.

DON

 

I think the obstacle is that since 97 WS-6 has been considered more of a trim line than and option. The newer ram air cars are marketed as "WS-6" rather than a TA with ram air. With that thinking, no there wasn't a WS-6 TRIM LINE before 97 but the option was available (without ram air hood) before 97.

 

My 91 Formula had center caps on the rims that said WS-6 Performance Suspension or something similar... I'd take a picture for you if I still had it....

Perhaps you could just print this page and show it to him.

 

My center caps say WS6 on them. Other than that, there are no WS6 badges on thirdgens. The dash should have a small tag that says "Performance Suspension" although that in itself doesnt mean the car has WS6.

Your friend and his dealer friend are morons. I'll post a few things later you can stick in their face.

Here's from this site, tell your friend to explain this:

https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/articles/gt.shtml

"Pontiac Firebird Formula
Second Place



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That this car is the meat in our musclecar sandwich is something of an accomplishment: the Firebird wasn't even in the running last time around. In the past we've been content to let Chevy carry the GM flag into battle, because the Camaro Z28 and the Firebird Trans Am were so similar. This time, we're glad we extended a third invitation.

The new Formula is a Firebird with a difference. Pontiac has arranged things so you can order most of the go-fast, feel-good pieces that pump up the IROC-Z without having to pay for the Trans Am's expensive gingerbread.

Transforming a Formula from a ballerina into a middle linebacker is a simple matter of checking a few boxes on the options sheet. The WS6 suspension, sixteen-inch alloy wheels, and fat Goodyear gatorbacks are all part of a package that also includes full instrumentation, a rear wing, and a swollen hood. Add the LB9 port-fuel-injected 5.0-liter V-8 (the 5.7-liter V-8 is also on the docket, but Pontiac passed on that option for this test), rear disc brakes, and a limited-slip differential and you've built an econo-bullet faster than you can say, "Sorry, Officer." A stripper Formula like our test car (which had an AM/FM/cassette deck but no A/C) comes in a whopping $4500 below a full-boat IROC-Z--and at least as much under a 5.7-liter Trans Am GTA.

Where the Pontiac and the Chevy differ is in their detail tuning. The Formula lacks several structural aids that the Camaro group feels are indispensable--including a front brace nicknamed the "wonderbar." The Pontiac is fitted with slightly fatter anti-roll bars and different shocks with special calibrations.

These are differences you can feel. We preferred the Formula's ride to those of its competitors in most circumstances, and in the two-lane flog it indeed felt like a formula car: tied down tight, with nary a false move in its repertoire. It was also superior to its rivals on the slalom course. Like the Camaro, the Formula could use more steering feel, but unlike its brother, it never threatens to kick its tail out when you boil into a tight back-road bend.

You also notice the Formula's slight power deficit to the Chevy. A more restrictive air cleaner, necessitated by the Firebird's lower hood, trims 10 hp off the top of the power curve, leaving you with 205. The Formula is only a tick slower than the IROC-Z, but its engine gasps through the last few hundred rpm, making it seem less enthusiastic than it is.

Inside, the Formula is as plain as vanilla pudding. Plastic plugs dot the dash, attesting to the options you didn't select. The three-spoke wheel looks cheap, the upholstery is simple, and the seats are only adequate. But if you can accept the rigors of economical living and focus on the Formula's dynamic pleasures, its advantage is clear. Where the Camaro stumbles, the Formula forges ahead."

 

I have pictures at home of my centercaps. Check out my home page (in my sig block) and look at the picture I have of my RPO sheet. It is very plain at that point I have a WS6 car.

 

I meant badging on the car itself, should have ben more clear, didnt mean to dis those with the centercap !

Don

 

Well,I guese GTA383 said it all and if everyone agrees that there were no badges other than center caps on any of gen 3's, then I supose I seen someone elses handy work.By the way, the BET was for 1K or a NOS system for his '87 IROC which ever came 1st.Being the nice a;;hole that I am,I told him we would split the cost down the middle.Because I want to film him blowing the crap out of that new Jasper engine.My '81 Canada Z28 is all original with the exception of heads (reworked 1st gen Trick Flows),carb (new Edelbrock 800cfm Q-jet) retro roller comp cam,factory alum. int. 2.5 40 series Flow Master duals and last but not least (don't laugh) a 20" 2spd. electric Ford fan. (it really cools that puppy down even w/AC on in Myrtle Beach traffic) But should someone find something concrete about badges I sure would appreciate it. Thanks guys for all your help!!!

 

that was such an easy bet you had

 

All I have to say is LOL...