83 Corvettes....
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83 Corvettes....
Can someone please shed some light on these guys.
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Dude trust me there were no 83 vettes. Not any produced that year. Gm didnt make any because they wanted to retro fit and restlye the body. I have an L83 the engine used in the 82 vette in my car. And in 84 they used the l98. Thats it. No 83 ever! U can go to auto zone and ask about an 83 vette and they will laugh your *** out of the store. Also i have read alot of books on vette motor s seeing how i have one and yes no 83 motor. That was the year they gave the vette an overhaul! Hopes this clears things up.
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There is one ...
The only 1983 Corvette in existence is in the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, KY. It's two-tone blue with an auto trans.
GM built a small number of '83 pilot cars, and scrapped all of them because the quality was so bad.
The only one saved from the crusher is in the museum. And that's the straight scoop ...
GM built a small number of '83 pilot cars, and scrapped all of them because the quality was so bad.
The only one saved from the crusher is in the museum. And that's the straight scoop ...
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Theres stories of another being found on the streets years ago, but it was destroyed I think. Do a search on the 83 on the net see what comes up..
Theres stories of another being found on the streets years ago, but it was destroyed I think. Do a search on the 83 on the net see what comes up..
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Originally posted by 87350MCSS
in 84 they used the l98. Thats it.
in 84 they used the l98. Thats it.
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Originally posted by kizz
That's what the vin would have ya believe, since it was an "8" engine code. But as a matter of fact, there was no L98 in 84. They used the L83 cross-fire 350, and nothing else.
That's what the vin would have ya believe, since it was an "8" engine code. But as a matter of fact, there was no L98 in 84. They used the L83 cross-fire 350, and nothing else.
weasel, you beat me to it
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For once everyone is in agreement on something. I was hoping to be the one to answer all the questions, oh well. I bet nobody knows how many 63 Italia Vettes there are and who designed them without looking it up. What the hell am I saying, I know less about cars than 50% of the people who come here. First one with the right answer gets a gold star.
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I am pretty sure it is the L98 in 84. I remember that the l83 was onyl available in 82. the L83 is the biggest mistake gm ever made. It is a horrible motor. In 81 they had the L82 and that made more Hp than the L83. Althought the L83 was crossifire injection, the first fuel injected vette in a while. It was just a trial engine. When they redid the vette in 83/84 the came out with a new body style and motor. I can almost swear that i read it, that the l98 was in 84.
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Originally posted by 87350MCSS
I am pretty sure it is the L98 in 84. I remember that the l83 was onyl available in 82. the L83 is the biggest mistake gm ever made. It is a horrible motor. In 81 they had the L82 and that made more Hp than the L83. Althought the L83 was crossifire injection, the first fuel injected vette in a while. It was just a trial engine. When they redid the vette in 83/84 the came out with a new body style and motor. I can almost swear that i read it, that the l98 was in 84.
I am pretty sure it is the L98 in 84. I remember that the l83 was onyl available in 82. the L83 is the biggest mistake gm ever made. It is a horrible motor. In 81 they had the L82 and that made more Hp than the L83. Althought the L83 was crossifire injection, the first fuel injected vette in a while. It was just a trial engine. When they redid the vette in 83/84 the came out with a new body style and motor. I can almost swear that i read it, that the l98 was in 84.
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Originally posted by 5.7L OF JUSTICE
You're right about three being made, try again on the designer. I guess you get a silver star though.
You're right about three being made, try again on the designer. I guess you get a silver star though.
eh, ok, you said 1963, i was thinking of the one from 57 i guess..................seems i lost a bit of vette knowledge........damn, i have to get my vette book out now to look it up
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well, i got the book out and the 1959 Corvette Italia was indeed done by Scaglietti, and three were made
i think i do remeber they made one based on the 63 split window................
i think i do remeber they made one based on the 63 split window................
84 Corvette.
RPO L83
Horsepower 200@4200 rpm
Also, in 1981 the motor in the Corvette was an L81 and had 190 Horsepower and was the last carburated Corvette.
The L82 was last produced in the 1980 Corvette and could only be had with a three speed automatic.
Another interesting point is for one year the California Only 1980 Corvette had because of Emission requirements was the LG4/5.0 liter and this motor showed up in the 1982 Z/28, Camaro.
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RPO L83
Horsepower 200@4200 rpm
Also, in 1981 the motor in the Corvette was an L81 and had 190 Horsepower and was the last carburated Corvette.
The L82 was last produced in the 1980 Corvette and could only be had with a three speed automatic.
Another interesting point is for one year the California Only 1980 Corvette had because of Emission requirements was the LG4/5.0 liter and this motor showed up in the 1982 Z/28, Camaro.
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I read an article a while back about how the last '83 Corvette pilot car was going to be scrapped too, but some guys (from the Bowling Green plant I think...) snuck off with it in order to save it for the museum.
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its funny how much different the conversations on the BS street race board and the tech boards really are. I think i need some kind of translator because i really cant understand half of what is said in that forum.
it sounds like a bunch of rambling drunks.
a topaz?!! HAHAHA does he realize that is the same thing as a tempo? one of the bigest POS econo cars of the century?!!
and he traded a 3rd gen for it? hell id rather have an Iron Duke even if a base level tempo could beat it. it doesnt change the fact that they r ugly as sin and are only usefull as beaters....:lala:
... ok im done
it sounds like a bunch of rambling drunks.a topaz?!! HAHAHA does he realize that is the same thing as a tempo? one of the bigest POS econo cars of the century?!!
and he traded a 3rd gen for it? hell id rather have an Iron Duke even if a base level tempo could beat it. it doesnt change the fact that they r ugly as sin and are only usefull as beaters....:lala: ... ok im done
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it is NOT an 83
1991tealRSt-topGuy,
Did you scroll down and read a little history on that corvette?
I thought that was quite interesting.
"Who has the "Only 1983"? Noland Adams, and John Amguit each confirmed my car as an 1983 assigned the vin00001 for 1984."
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Did you scroll down and read a little history on that corvette?
I thought that was quite interesting.
"Who has the "Only 1983"? Noland Adams, and John Amguit each confirmed my car as an 1983 assigned the vin00001 for 1984."
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The '83 is white with a blue interior. Here's an interesting link on the car:
http://www.corvettemagazine.com/2000...ry/83/83p1.asp
http://www.corvettemagazine.com/2000...ry/83/83p1.asp
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I am a judge for the Amboy Depot days car show, I had 73-83 vettes and 70-74 street machinces, when I posted in on the midwest board, I got heckled for the 83 remark, so I researched in and talked to guys on the vette site,
I found: their are 1 and a half in existance, 1 in a museum and the 1/2 at a plant somewhere
enough were produced that some people bought them, but all were recalled and dedtroyed, all though supposedly not all of them bad it back
I found: their are 1 and a half in existance, 1 in a museum and the 1/2 at a plant somewhere
enough were produced that some people bought them, but all were recalled and dedtroyed, all though supposedly not all of them bad it back
Originally posted by vicV8rs91
I found: their are 1 and a half in existance, 1 in a museum and the 1/2 at a plant somewhere
I found: their are 1 and a half in existance, 1 in a museum and the 1/2 at a plant somewhere
The 1/2 one is that the one that used to be above the entrance to the plant?
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Originally posted by raptoryfm660r
1991tealRSt-topGuy,
Did you scroll down and read a little history on that corvette?
I thought that was quite interesting.
"Who has the "Only 1983"? Noland Adams, and John Amguit each confirmed my car as an 1983 assigned the vin00001 for 1984."
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1991tealRSt-topGuy,
Did you scroll down and read a little history on that corvette?
I thought that was quite interesting.
"Who has the "Only 1983"? Noland Adams, and John Amguit each confirmed my car as an 1983 assigned the vin00001 for 1984."
Chet
somethings wrong somewhere
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This is a timely topic for me....
Here is that one remaining "mystery" 1983 Corvette; this picture was taken this past weekend at the FBody event in Bowling Green:
And the placard to go with it.....
Hope this helps....
Here is that one remaining "mystery" 1983 Corvette; this picture was taken this past weekend at the FBody event in Bowling Green:
And the placard to go with it.....
Hope this helps....
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Originally posted by raptoryfm660r
vicV8rs91,
The 1/2 one is that the one that used to be above the entrance to the plant?
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vicV8rs91,
The 1/2 one is that the one that used to be above the entrance to the plant?
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the wheels shown look 10 times better than the 16 inch wheels that were produced, to me those wheels are the 84-87's corvette's weak point in styling
1991tealRSt-topGuy,
Its something how everyone views the same thing different.
I liked those 16 inch wheels on the black cap 84,85 and silver cap 86, 87 Vettes.
They were conservative, like me and the bonus feature, it accelerated the airflow outward from the brake discs.
Those wheels also started the whole turbo fan look of the eighties and into the nineties.
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Its something how everyone views the same thing different.
I liked those 16 inch wheels on the black cap 84,85 and silver cap 86, 87 Vettes.
They were conservative, like me and the bonus feature, it accelerated the airflow outward from the brake discs.
Those wheels also started the whole turbo fan look of the eighties and into the nineties.
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Originally posted by raptoryfm660r
I liked those 16 inch wheels on the black cap 84,85 and silver cap 86, 87 Vettes.
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I liked those 16 inch wheels on the black cap 84,85 and silver cap 86, 87 Vettes.
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(just being a wise-*** with ya)
but, yeah, i felt the wheels were too conservetive
1991tealRSt-topGuy,
You are correct.
I did a little searching on the web and sure enough they are gray. I had totally forgotten that.
I had to find some close up shots of wheel photos to compare the years.
Now, I drove home a 1988 silver Corvette, 16 inch base wheeled model.
Did you like those better than the previous years 16 inch wheel, 84-87.
I really did like those optional 17 inch wheels that came out in 1988
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You are correct.
I did a little searching on the web and sure enough they are gray. I had totally forgotten that.
I had to find some close up shots of wheel photos to compare the years.
Now, I drove home a 1988 silver Corvette, 16 inch base wheeled model.
Did you like those better than the previous years 16 inch wheel, 84-87.
I really did like those optional 17 inch wheels that came out in 1988
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that's strange; the VIN is not valid in that photo.. it says 1G1AY0783D5110023, but the real VIN is 1G1AY0783D5100023. I bet that vette is pissed off.
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Originally posted by kizz
that's strange; the VIN is not valid in that photo.. it says 1G1AY0783D5110023, but the real VIN is 1G1AY0783D5100023. I bet that vette is pissed off.
that's strange; the VIN is not valid in that photo.. it says 1G1AY0783D5110023, but the real VIN is 1G1AY0783D5100023. I bet that vette is pissed off.
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Originally posted by raptoryfm660r
1991tealRSt-topGuy,
You are correct.
I did a little searching on the web and sure enough they are gray. I had totally forgotten that.
I had to find some close up shots of wheel photos to compare the years.
Now, I drove home a 1988 silver Corvette, 16 inch base wheeled model.
Did you like those better than the previous years 16 inch wheel, 84-87.
I really did like those optional 17 inch wheels that came out in 1988
Chet
1991tealRSt-topGuy,
You are correct.
I did a little searching on the web and sure enough they are gray. I had totally forgotten that.
I had to find some close up shots of wheel photos to compare the years.
Now, I drove home a 1988 silver Corvette, 16 inch base wheeled model.
Did you like those better than the previous years 16 inch wheel, 84-87.
I really did like those optional 17 inch wheels that came out in 1988
Chet
i like the 16 inch base wheels that came standard in 88 (88 was the one and only year for them) i do, though, prefer the optional style that was optional in 88, but standard in 89
1990's got a similar wheel, except the center caps were smaller and the lug nuts were visible
my all time favorite vette wheel is the ones used on ZR-1's in 94 and 95
my neighbor has a black 88 convertible with the base 16 inch wheels for sale, wish i had the $7500 to buy it
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Originally posted by 87350MCSS
the L83 is the biggest mistake gm ever made. It is a horrible motor.
the L83 is the biggest mistake gm ever made. It is a horrible motor.
going off on a tangent here.. as to another point made on wheels, production numbers will show that the 84-87 wheel type is consistent with the C4's highest sales during those years. clean, subtle, no questions asked. 88-96 didn't manage to break 25,000 units during any year (88 being the first year of significant cosmetic changes). In that sense the 84 Y-body and the 82 F-body are really similar in that the first-year design is an overall self-sustaining complete package, and later updates clearly just misplaced afterthoughts that take away from the previous completeness. This is true of countless other GM first-year designs of enthusiast cars. production numbers back me up. one exception is the 2nd gen F-body which just got better & better up through 1978. they should redesign their cars every several years like everyone else, instead of just adding silly side plastic and different taillights. for example, let's see what a mess they make out of the 06-07 GTO, while the 04-05 is a complete sellout.
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Originally posted by kizz
In that sense the 84 Y-body and the 82 F-body are really similar in that the first-year design is an overall self-sustaining complete package, and later updates clearly just misplaced afterthoughts that take away from the previous completeness. This is true of countless other GM first-year designs of enthusiast cars.
In that sense the 84 Y-body and the 82 F-body are really similar in that the first-year design is an overall self-sustaining complete package, and later updates clearly just misplaced afterthoughts that take away from the previous completeness. This is true of countless other GM first-year designs of enthusiast cars.
Maybe if willie reads this he might remember but I thought the designers originally wanted to go with the 1985 Z-28 / TA design but the GM management thought it was to bold and was toned down.
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the only prototype 1982 T/A I've seen is one without ground effects at all, with 2nd gen deep dish wheels and an digital readout hood bulge. same mentality discussed in all books talking about the birth of the 3rd gen. taking away the bulge hood in 85-86 only helped 'em to lose more sales than they otherwise would have lost anyway, thanks to taking away ram-air too. *mandatory* ground effects in 85+up was a dumb idea.. at least give the option of wheel flares like 82-84. camaro.. I dunno a whole lot about that, but looking at a side profile of a 1982 Z28 and a 1992 Z28, they look pretty much identical to me, except maybe for the wing. best looking camaro is the 85-87 iroc, primarily because of the tri-level taillights and 16-inch wheels. as far as T/A, 82 was the best look, followed by 83-84. comparing first-year and last-year T/A is not really possible since they're totally different animals inside and out and in my opinion the T/A got more & more watered down with each year. having said that, I'd still like to own maybe a 350 GTA in the future. best toned-down editions are the berlinetta and S/E, maybe LT. it's all subjective.;nobody's going to change anyone else's mind
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just thought i would get in on this...theres this kid at school, hes a total dumba$$, hes always claiming his dad worked for gm and they have an 83 vette..he always says hes going to race me in his dads "83" and i tell him to bring it out and we will race...yea he brought a picture of "it" to school one day and it was a pic of a like a 90 vette or something
...1 day i finally broke down and told him that there were no 83 vettes and he starts calling me a dumba$$
...1 day i finally broke down and told him that there were no 83 vettes and he starts calling me a dumba$$
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that reminds me of a friend of mine who was looking for an 82 tbird (the "mistake" generation, 80-82) and a used car lot guy was like "well, i got an 86 cougar.. same thing". not only is it that a newer generation but the cougar & tbird were way different from each other. another time i was looking for an 82 t/a, got a tip from a friend to check a used car lot for a sure-fire 82 t/a; turned out to be an 85 firebird.... 



