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If you have a Players Challenge Car, please post here. (RPO- A4U, 1LE or R7U)
History / OriginalityGot a question about 1982-1992 Camaro or Firebird history? Have a question about original parts, options, RPO codes, when something was available, or how to document your car? Those questions, answers, and much more!
Re: If you have a Players Challenge Car, please post here. (RPO- A4U, 1LE or R7U)
Take globbs and globbs of pictures if you are going to rebuild the motor.. Make notes of all of the Yellow markings, then you can go to a hobby shop, get testors a Yellow paint marker and match them
Re: If you have a Players Challenge Car, please post here. (RPO- A4U, 1LE or R7U)
Your 91 TA appears to have a 92 engine installed as they were the only ones with the black valve covers. Up to 91 had the silver ones. I would know as my 91 Rob Fellows #1 car has the 92 update motor in it with the letter from GM Motorsport validating it for the 92 season. If you wanted to run your 91 in 92 you had to update the motor.
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I also have one of the 89 Pace Cars from the West series that was used up at Westwood in Coquitlam BC. It is a full 1LE/R7U car as well but never had the cage mounted in it. Super clean car and all original numbers match.
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I was lucky enough to track down the original owner/driver Barrie Ihaksi. He was nice enough to meet with me and give me some history and photos of my car.
Last edited by 67restoproj; 08-03-2015 at 09:44 PM.
Re: If you have a Players Challenge Car, please post here. (RPO- A4U, 1LE or R7U)
Originally Posted by 1LERACER
Your 91 TA appears to have a 92 engine installed as they were the only ones with the black valve covers. Up to 91 had the silver ones. I would know as my 91 Rob Fellows #1 car has the 92 update motor in it with the letter from GM Motorsport validating it for the 92 season. If you wanted to run your 91 in 92 you had to update the motor.
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Originally Posted by 67restoproj
Barrie told me after the dust settled it cost him 10k per race. The drivers hired an independent transporter to haul their cars
This seems to be the problem with any kind of racing, the organizer starts out as an inexpensive means for competition, then they get some guy in there that has a ton of money that turns the entire thing on it's head. All of a sudden a racing program that should cost $30K per year ends up being $10K per weekend, eventually everyone in order to be competitive has to spend more and more just to be competitive, and those little guys that the series was intended end up being pushed out.
Formula Vee started that way, it was supposed to be VW racing, but you had to use the engine from a Bug, The rules were pretty basic, and cheep, the cheap did not last.
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John, that's the same in every level of racing - somebody with money steps in and changes the landscape!
The F.A.S.T. racing class was set up for guys who didn't have a lot of money, didn't have numbers matching cars but wanted to play with vintage stuff and have a loose rule book. It's gotten out of hand however with ZL1 aluminum blocks, Hemi Road Runners, and big block Corvettes pushing the limits.
A good friend of mine has the 68 RA II Firebird that's currently running in the 10's and will likely make it into the 9's before he's done. His car is an exercise in "What can we do if money is no object?" and has probably gone over 200k at this point. My 71 GT-37 on the other hand has less than 20k in it & that includes buying the car. My car will likely get into the 12's out in Stanton at the Pure Stock Drags this September in completely stock trim with no tricks.
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Picked up this 1987 Camaro a few weeks ago. Raced in 1987 and again in 1988.
Rolling chassis so will be doing it up as a replica of Ron Fellows 1987 Motomaster car. Picture 1 is today before being rolled into shop, Pic 2 is when it raced in 1987 and Pic 3 is hopefully what it will look like when completed.
Re: If you have a Players Challenge Car, please post here. (RPO- A4U, 1LE or R7U)
R7U was still used, it was used with or included 1LE. Mark would know better, but I think R7U was a spec RPO. Basically you ordered R7U and you got items X, Y & Z. That would make the most sense for ordering simplicity and keeping it all equal.
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I'm searching for a cage for my car. I was able to contact Rick Davenport who built these for the western cars but has moved and thrown out the original templates. If anyone has one or knows of one please PM me! Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by 67restoproj
I'm searching for a cage for my car. I was able to contact Rick Davenport who built these for the western cars but has moved and thrown out the original templates. If anyone has one or knows of one please PM me! Thanks!!
CSC Racing out east use to have the Jigs still. A couple members here even ordered a couple.
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Originally Posted by 1LERACER
Your 91 TA appears to have a 92 engine installed as they were the only ones with the black valve covers. Up to 91 had the silver ones. I would know as my 91 Rob Fellows #1 car has the 92 update motor in it with the letter from GM Motorsport validating it for the 92 season. If you wanted to run your 91 in 92 you had to update the motor.
I have noticed that the few late 92 motors (with black valve covers) I have taken apart, have the Powdered metal rods and lighter pistons like the LT1 in the 92 vets and 93-97 F-cars.
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Interesting! That car was raced in both east and west coast series' but whats really interesting is it had both sets of decals on it
What I mean by that is that it had sunoco and mohawk decals and the players ltd vs players ltee! Thats a new one for me! Pretty cool!
Id imagine its a west coast car because of the Preston Langley sponsorship... ironically my #1 car was a Peter Baljet Chevrolet car from Vancouver island but it was an east coast sunoco car. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by IROCNParts
Interesting! That car was raced in both east and west coast series' but whats really interesting is it had both sets of decals on it
What I mean by that is that it had sunoco and mohawk decals and the players ltd vs players ltee! Thats a new one for me! Pretty cool!
Id imagine its a west coast car because of the Preston Langley sponsorship... ironically my #1 car was a Peter Baljet Chevrolet car from Vancouver island but it was an east coast sunoco car. Go figure.
Mike from what I understand they were required (sponsorship)to remove the decals. Mohawk in the west and Sunoco in the east. Barrie raced the car in both series but was mainly a western car
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If you guys have a players car and are in need of either these engine plenum decals or nose/door players decals shoot me pm. I won't charge you for the engine one but the nose/door ones I'll just charge you whatever the print cost is. I spent $1000 on setup fees to have them replicated as I have a spare of the originals and they look good. Colour isn't perfect but it's really nice. I have both the English "ltd" and French "ltee" available and they are staggered letter nose ones just like the orioginals
Back when I was making them I sent them to mark_zz3 to have him find imperfections
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Yes I am very interested in one of the engine decals for my '87 Players T/A. What do you want for one? Can you please call Mark (me) at 514-632-4043 or email me at marktransam@yahoo.ca. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Munyguy
Well got the car today...After years searching and researching here is my 1986 GM/Players Trans AM....Needs a restoration but with only 3800 KM and so many spare parts I think I should be in good shape. Has original engine, original race engine, roll cage, brembo brakes, original race seat, bill of sale etc etc... Should have some good left over parts if anyone out there is in need of some stuff. I will take lots of pictures to document stuff so anything specific you need send me an e-mail. Here are pictures of the car on the trailer, and a photo of it back when it was new.
Wow, you got it with the Brembo calipers. I have always wanted to see what those calipers looked like because I can't remember for the life of me what they were like when I was working on Paul Wheatley's #52 car at the Toronto Indy in '87. My '87 T/A didn't have them when I bought the car 10 years ago, but was upgraded with the 1LE brakes. If you could send a bunch of pics of those Brembo's to my email. markransam@yahoo.ca that would be super cool. BTW I'm pretty sure only the "87 cars had the Brembo's and had to be returned after the season because they were not DOT approved. Making them an extremely rare find.
05-26-2015, 12:01 AM
