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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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1982 Pace Car Camaro, 305, 200c

Does that exist? A local guy has an 82 with the original pace car stickers for it, its in mint condition, with 32K original miles on it.

problem is, i know nothing about the history on these things.
its an auto for sure, i just guessed 200c for the year 82. its a 305 but thats a guess too.

whats the deal? anything i should look for? I was mainly looking for a body to drop my motor / trans into, and this ones pefect. price is right too, wants $3000 for it.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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That is an awful price ..what's his number...no seriously..

82's had the turbo 200. They introduced the 700R4 in 83. Two engine choices, LG4 carb or LU5 crossfire injection. All Crossfire cars were auto and all 4 speed manual cars were carbs. Look for rear disc brakes, those are the most desireable...

They made 6360 of them. Interior is hard to find nice, but with 32K miles, I imagine it is nice.

All Pace Cars were Silver and Blue. Look for 26G and 16L and 16U on the trim tag on the core support to verify

Sounds like a hell of a find...If you decide to pass on it, let me know...

Tom

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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! please, please, please dont buy this car because youre looking for something to put a motor and trans in. especially if its only got 32k on it. these cars should be kept and cherished, not used for motor swaps. you could probably find something else just as good for the same price, if not cheaper. i mean COME ON, an 82 pace car!! but thats just my opinion, and it wont stop you from defacing the tremendous potential value of this car.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Supercharged84Z
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! please, please, please dont buy this car because youre looking for something to put a motor and trans in. especially if its only got 32k on it. these cars should be kept and cherished, not used for motor swaps. you could probably find something else just as good for the same price, if not cheaper. i mean COME ON, an 82 pace car!! but thats just my opinion, and it wont stop you from defacing the tremendous potential value of this car.

I TOTALLY AGREE

thats like taking a classic with matching #'s and turning into a 10sec drag car. not good thing to do, ruin something that is great allready. find something that needs a motor and tranny. then swap it and save. make two better camaros. not ruin one in the process to make something else.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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lol ok ok i wasnt planning on defacing it anyways. after carefull consideration i decided not to buy it because whats the point of ruining a perfectly good car as is.

its funny you mention that, it was on my mind as well.

only problem is i cant seem to find a good body without finding a really good car, so whenever i stumble across one (like this) its so perfect i would rather not ruin it. *Sigh
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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You can ruin a perfectly stock car all you want. I think what everyone is saying is don't ruin the rare ones.

It's just like all the 1982 Recaro TA's that get turned into KITT replicas. Even though KITT was not a Recaro TA.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by 87WS6
You can ruin a perfectly stock car all you want. I think what everyone is saying is don't ruin the rare ones.

It's just like all the 1982 Recaro TA's that get turned into KITT replicas. Even though KITT was not a Recaro TA.
I would, as would most others, consider a 82 Pace Car with 32K original miles rare.....

There are plenty of others out there, why mess with the low mileage ones???

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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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I agree with Tom. DO NOT DO IT.

These cars are getting rarer each day. Man I know of only 2 pace cars in our car club. one is the Drum brake CFI & the other one is the Disc brake CFI.
I saw one this summer that was the 4bc withthe carco lock cover.


Oh Tom I still have to get to work on my pace car .lol right now its sitting out side under a carcover. Next free weekend we have we are going to put the new locks in to it.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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ur not ruinin a car by swapping motors or anthging else you do. your only upgrading it, thus making it better. i'm not sure where your located or how far you would consider traveling but theres alot of camaro that just need a motor and tranny in NY. or the other way around. you just gotta keep your eyes open for them. i know a guy who is selling a 86 camaro shell. for like 800. but it needs a motor and tranny. a new aint job and a supenion overhal wold do that camaro wonders.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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ur not ruinin a car by swapping motors or anthging else you do. your only upgrading it, thus making it better.
If its a 82 pace car or another Hard to find car or limited edition car YES he is.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by Krazzycowgirl
If its a 82 pace car or another Hard to find car or limited edition car YES he is.
Yep..I agree. There are plenty of base Camaros or Z28's out there to tear into.........

If the original motor was already gone it would be one thing, but an all original low mileage car is another!!!

WooHoo

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Old May 2, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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I know I'm late to this topic, but don't touch that car.
It's a work of art.
Find another and enjoy it.
Let the Pace Car be enjoyed by those who appreciate !!

Ron...
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Old May 2, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Y'all would probably want to kill me then ...

I just performed a motor swap on my 82 Pace Car. The computer/crossfire setup had something wrong with it, and someone else had converted it to a 6spd before I purchased it. I traded the 6spd for a roller 305 w/ a carb, cam, and a T5. I'm keeping all the original stuff, motor, computer, etc ... gonna see if I can "revive" it.

Speaking of which, I found the original build sheet, tucked under the passenger seat. I thought it was a crumpled piece of paper, went to pull it out, and it tore ... So I gotta take the seat out, and finish "extracting" it.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by 85TurboGT
Y'all would probably want to kill me then ...

I just performed a motor swap on my 82 Pace Car. The computer/crossfire setup had something wrong with it, and someone else had converted it to a 6spd before I purchased it. I traded the 6spd for a roller 305 w/ a carb, cam, and a T5. I'm keeping all the original stuff, motor, computer, etc ... gonna see if I can "revive" it.

Speaking of which, I found the original build sheet, tucked under the passenger seat. I thought it was a crumpled piece of paper, went to pull it out, and it tore ... So I gotta take the seat out, and finish "extracting" it.
No harm in doing a motor swap to an "average" car. It is just the low mileage, all original cars that we frown on. Cars are only all original once and turning up a low mileage one is all the better. I am actually getting ready to swap a 350 and a 700R4 in one of mine. The original motor was gone, so no reason to keep a 305 in it . I am actually going to try and have it as close to stock appearance as I can get, just some headers. Maybe even paint the edelbrock intake blue....

Welcome aboard, it is always nice to have another Pace Car owner/fan aboard.

WooHoo

Tom
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Old May 3, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Thanks. I'd like to paint my car and make it look like it did from factory, with the stripes and all.

I mainly did the motor swap for driveability reasons, this is my daily driver. I paid $2200 for the car when I bought it, and that mainly covered the 6spd conversion. I then traded the 6spd for the rest of the parts. I ran it at the track, with the 6spd, best I could get was a 16.12 ... but it was running out of fuel on the top end. The motor and tranny in it now, came out of an 88 IROC, and that owner was able to get a 14.95 out of it ... I don't think I'm as good a driver as he is, but I'm sure the car will be capable of that

Do y'all know anywhere I can get the hood struts for this car? I was told the ones for the steel hood are too stiff for the fiberglass hood (which makes sense) but that no one makes a replacement strut for the hood. Right now I'm using a length of wood as a hood prop.

Also, if y'all know anyone that is looking for a crossfire setup, I've got the complete harness, computer, and intake/tbi setup.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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You should be able to go to any parts store and buy the hood struts. Just tell them that you have a 82 with a fiberglass hood. You also (Unless you took it out) may tell them it was a crossfire motor because of the air induction under the hood. It adds weight.

How much are you looking at getting for the Crossfire setup?? I do not need it, but if it is a good price, may nab it for parts if I ever need them.

WooHoo

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Old May 4, 2003 | 02:52 AM
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I don't have that funky air setup that was on the hood. The original owner is supposed to locate it, and give it to me, but it hasnt been on the car in awhile. You can see all the glue under the hood where someone tried to put it back on there.

As far as a price on the crossfire setup goes, I'd probably let it all go for $150 or slightly less, if thats too high .. whatever seems fair. I didnt cut anything in taking the harness out, just unplugged it, and pulled it out.

I was seriously thinking about selling the car, but now y'all got me thinkin I should keep it around. *sigh* So much for owning nothing but a bunch of fox bodies ....
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Old May 4, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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PM'd you..

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indy82z (Tom)

I got a 82 pace car give to me im going to redo it’s only got 69k on it.

I got a question fer ya do you happen to know how many came with 4sp or 305 verses 350.
I’m kinda hoping I can find production numbers somewhere. I’ve heard different number counts
to on those produced too. On here you say there 6,360 but I got a page says there’s 6,000 replica’s
Does that mean the other 360 are original’s. I’m asking cause I’ve been told by the guy gave me this car,
Bought it new an he say’s it’s a 350,but I’ve yet to check it closely.
An I see buy your signature,there’s different setup’s in the Indy pace cars.

Thanks, Sammy

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Old May 4, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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indy82z (Tom)

I got a 82 pace car give to me im going to redo it’s only got 69k on it.

I got a question fer ya do you happen to know how many came with 4sp or 305 verses 350.
I’m kinda hoping I can find production numbers somewhere. I’ve heard different number counts
to on those produced too. On here you say there 6,360 but I got a page says there’s 6,000 replica’s
Does that mean the other 360 are original’s. I’m asking cause I’ve been told by the guy gave me this car,
Bought it new an he say’s it’s a 350,but I’ve yet to check it closely.
An I see buy your signature,there’s different setup’s in the Indy pace cars.

Thanks, Sammy
There were Only 80 Org Pace cars made for the track. & Only 2 of them were made with the 350.

you can find this information out on http://www.indypacecars.com/1982/techreport1.html Just flip through the pages.

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Old May 5, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by 87Formula391S/C
indy82z (Tom)

I got a 82 pace car give to me im going to redo it’s only got 69k on it.

I got a question fer ya do you happen to know how many came with 4sp or 305 verses 350.
I’m kinda hoping I can find production numbers somewhere. I’ve heard different number counts
to on those produced too. On here you say there 6,360 but I got a page says there’s 6,000 replica’s
Does that mean the other 360 are original’s. I’m asking cause I’ve been told by the guy gave me this car,
Bought it new an he say’s it’s a 350,but I’ve yet to check it closely.
An I see buy your signature,there’s different setup’s in the Indy pace cars.

Thanks, Sammy
Tammy is right. There were only two that had 350's and those where the "actual" Pace Cars. One of which is owned by the Indy Museum and the other is owned by GM.

They originally planned on producing 6000 of them, but produced an extra 360 due to demand.

There are lots of people that think that the cars were 350's, infact, one I just bought was described as having the original 350 engine which turned out to be the original 305. (suprise suprise)

With 69K miles, it sounds like you have a keeper there. I do not know the production specifics of auto versus 4 speed, but it is very safe to say that the automatic cars outnumbered the manual transmission cars (4 speed). The most desireable combo is one with 4 wheel disc brakes. There were very few of them produced.
Another rare one is one without T-tops. I am currently swarching for a resonable priced one of those to add to the fleet.

Good luck with the project and post some pictures. It sounds like a nice car!!

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Old May 5, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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thanks for the link Tammy

tom
thanks ill post some pics A.S.A.P. after checking this is a 305 cfi car auto with disk rear.interior looks great dont see any rips,t tops dont leak all it really needs is tires a L-front fender an the hood either fixed or replaced,an a tranny rebuild.the guy left the hood unlatched while bringing it home it flew up an cracked the mounting blocks from the hood ez fix.this is a future project car ill start it soons this formula is done..

if i can get any prudction breakdown numbers for the 82 pc's ill let you know as i know a family member works for gm in detroit..

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Old May 5, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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thanks for the link Tammy

tom
thanks ill post some pics A.S.A.P. after checking this is a 305 cfi car auto with disk rear.interior looks great dont see any rips,t tops dont leak all it really needs is tires a L-front fender an the hood either fixed or replaced,an a tranny rebuild.the guy left the hood unlatched while bringing it home it flew up an cracked the mounting blocks from the hood ez fix.this is a future project car ill start it soons this formula is done..

if i can get any prudction breakdown numbers for the 82 pc's ill let you know as i know a family member works for gm in detroit..

Sammy
Before Tom or Ron say something. There were only about 25% of the pace cars made with the CFI, Disc brake combo. I found a site (dont know where it is now) but only 29 have been found in the listing. My car is 30 & looks like yours is 31.

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Old May 14, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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ok, i finaly got my digital camera working. so heres a few pics of it.its still on the trailer though,like i said it needs work though.but at least it starts.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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Sammy-

If you got a 4 wheel disc brake car, you have an excellent project. As discussed before, they are the hot ticket in the Pace Cars.

If I can ask, what happened to the fender?? The ground effect looks like it was either cut or cleanly broken off???

The seats look nice, which is the biggest hurdle with these cars, so you have an excellent starting point.

Good luck with your restoration and keep us updated..

You have quite a find!! Not get started wrenching

WooHoo

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we took the fender off so we could steer it.it was bent into the tire it probaly could be fixed but im not going to put bondo on this one.yes the ground effect is perfect..sorry bout the blurry inter pic ill try to get a clear one..

ill keep posting as i go…………Sammy
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