I own a 87 Trans am with a 305 LG4 but i have the 3:27 borg warner rear end and the black interior ive never seen this setup in the technical data on thirdgen.org....

 

Only Steak is Rare not 3rd gen cars.

 

I disagree there are some rare third gens.

B4C Camaro
Recaro edition TA
89 TTA
Firehawks
Convertible Trans Ams
etc. etc.

 

Someone stated there are only rare options, not rare 3rd gens ,with that in mind the above cars, none of them would be "Rare"... The funny thing is there were almost as many 1957 Chevys produced as there were 3rd gens for 11 years of production...

Your particular options:
LG4 Engine -- common, probably more LG4 3rd gens produced than any other V8 engine

19B, 19C, 19D, 19E or 192 "Black" interior -- I have one, There pretty common, especially considering there was only 4 colors availble in 1987... If it was the Carmine red, then I would say that was unusual in a Firebird.

GW6 (3.27) rear axel -- never seen one combined with an LG4, since most LG4's got the GU2 (2.73) rear axel with an auto. The 5speed came with the GU4 (3.08) axel standard with the LG4. I think there was an option with a "Performace axel ratio" behind an LG4, it might have been the GW6 (3.27)

Edit: In the same vein, I am the only person on this board that I am aware of that has a Yellow 87 Formula with T-tops, Gray deluxe interior, TPI, and 5 speed. I know of at least 5 other Yellow Formula's in my area of Flint, several 87 Formulas, many T-top cars, lots of Gray interiors, and several folks with a 5 speed and TPI. Is my car rare? I would say the combination is unusual, and it might be the only 87 Yellow Formula with all those options, and with rear defog delete. It does not make the value of my car any higher, or more desireable, unless someone is looking for a certain car.

 

did you say convertable trans am's are rare?

i know of one the next town over thats for sale for 3k.

its white.

 

yea, the convertible T/A's are pretty rare. and now that ya mention it okfoz, i dont think i have EVER seen a Firebird with the Carmine Red interior,

Josh

 

There is another thread on the History board that has a pic of a pouch from a carmine red Firebird interior.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=248589

 

The combinations are endless, so certain combinations are sure to be , by definition, rare.

Someone once said that you can figure out how much a "rare" car is worth by how long it takes you to describe it.

91 Firehawk. It speaks for itself.

88 Iroc, black with stripe delete, red interior, 305 TPI, 5-Speed, G92. I bet that's pretty rare, but not really worth anything extra.

I whipped that out off the top of my head. Anyone know of a car like that?

 

You said the "R" word!

 

lo3 here.. 5speed with 3.08 POSI

thats rare.. ShiftyCapone said so himself,. and he's a mod!

 

86 iroc with lb9 tpi with auto with GU5 (3.23s), factory posi 4 wheel disc, power everything, AC,over head console.... i looked at the specs data sheet on the sight and it didnt show any auto irocs in 86 with tpi thatgot factory GU5 (3.23s) and also a factory posi... does that meen i got some rare options with this car ? also the car is black with black i terior, t tops and gold iroc stickers on the doors and gold emblems...

 

There are rare Third Gens. But it doesn't look like yours is one of them.

 

I've found a few discepencies here in the tech data. To be honest, I doubt a 100% accurate list of every possible option and combination exists anywhere.

*edit*

By that I mean that GM is notorious for doing things that weren't supposed to exist. I'm not talking about an 86 Iroc with the L98, but things like certain surplus driveline parts from year to year, and things of that nature.

 

I like my Thirdgen's rare, medium or well done is nice, but rare is better

Please raise your hand, or mouse

If you have or have ever seen an 82 S/E with WS6, LG4, B/W Super T-10 4 speed, GU5/G80 3:23 posi, J65 all wheel disc's & covered in Light Jadestone Metallic?

 

Who cares but you???? No One Else.....

 

I'd take that car in a heartbeat over most of the cars here at TGO.

 

z28monster- we almost have the same car but mine has light saddle interior gold emblems and was red(now white) and I also have the auto inside rearview mirror that adjust for bright head lights( I've never seen that on any car before)

 

Who cares but you???? No One Else.....

Inflammatory comments such as this will not be tolerated. This is a tech site and if you cannot make your comments constructive, don't take the time to type anything. Remember what your mama told you, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

Willie

 

You just described the first '88 IROC I saw w/ the DX3 option, except it had black custom cloth interior.

 

Don't say that! You just described my car...and I thought it was rare! LOL

 

There werent that many 88 DX3 cars....1,895 produced was the number I saw.

Ive got one myself....88 IROC-Z, DX3 decal and stripe delete, G92, hardtop, No A/C, black exterior beechwood interior

 

Damn! You might as well have a 1LE!!!

post #500

 

i got a ls1 stock in my 82 camaro is that rare????? HAHAHA

 

yeah I wish it was one of the four 1LE's from 88. The car didnt even come with foglights when I bought it, but there was a switch inside.

 

1983, '85, '86 Camaros and Firebirds with the L69 motor are rare too... all those years had less than 3500 cars made with that motor.


1984 HO isn't rare though. Go figure.

 

IROC 1LE's, TTA, and firehawks are the rarest find worth anything. Anything else is just uncommon and adds no real worth to the actual vehicle.

 

If we are willing to sit on our cars for a while they will go up in value, as long as they are in good condition, I find when cars get so old milage means less and less.

Just wait....

John

 

Thanks Willie.

BTW, check your PM's.

 

Yeah, '83, '85&'86 were the 5spd only years. Then there was 1984, and a whole bunch of Z28's got the L69. Out of just over
100,000 Z28's built in '84 52,457 were H.O. cars. The General was selling alot of cars in the mid eighties, and there was some serious cash flow going on. So the L69 was a hit, let's offer it with the 5spd and the 700R4. It worked and Chevrolet sold alot of Z28's in '84. Record sales across the board in '84 for GM.

 

I tap 10 gallons of gas and summon the Firehawk demon! I'll trade it to you for a TTA with decal delete.

...we're talking about Magic cards, right?

 

Not to mention 1984 was the ONLY year for our cars that did not offere a Fuel Injected V8. Which was probably the reason for the HO sales.

John

 

Hmmm, my TTA is pretty rare, 1 of the 1550 product run and 1 of the 1324 built with t-tops and leather .... and only 1 of 5 here in the United Kingdom.

Guess my 1984 is not that rare ... but with the 87 - 305 engine, 86 interior and front and rear bumper covers from a 89 Formula it must be just a bit rare

 

How about the extrememly rare R7U 1LE Trans Ams??? Very few even exsist! In fact only 20 were ever made and only in 1988, and I know a fella who owns one of them. He also owns a 1991 R7U 1LE Camaro. Both amazing cars.

From 1989 through to 1992, option code R7U along with 1LE designated the car as a Players Challenge car.

 

Cruzin Kaz there was not 20 1LE 88 Trans ams. There were only 4 1LE cars made in 88 and I believe they were all Irocs. The 1LE Trans Ams were made in 89 and up and in 89 there were 35 1LE TA's built and 76 1LE Irocs 74 of those were R7U but I cannot say for sure how many of the TA's were R7U in 89. There is another guy on this board Mark_ZZ3 who is into the Players Trans Ams and could verify those numbers.

 

Trust me there were 20 R7U 1LE Trans Ams made, maybe a few more, but not many. I happen to work for GM and hang with quite a few F body specialists from GM Canada. There we're 20 R7U Trans Ams made. The A4U and R7U rpos messed alot of peoples info up. I seen the R7U car right up close, as I was in it. I also seen the RPO codes, and the VIN's And everything matched.

 

Hey man go easy I never said anything about the R7U code build numbers. What I said was there were never 20 1LE cars made in 88. There were only four built. Don't have to take my word for it check out Marks site yourself.

http://members.shaw.ca/tunedportinje...on_numbers.htm

Scroll to the bottom.

 

LOL I just rechecked and I was wrong There were seven 1LE's made in 88

 

Yeap, I know Mark, and I wasnt' going hard at you ;p . I have spoke with the owners of these cars. But I am not going to argue over the internet either, so your right.

 

4 Camaros
3 Trans AM's
---
7 Total, ( you were correct both times.)

 

No worries. I still have the Hot Rod artcile from around 1990 when they discovered that there were 4 LS6 454 Monte Carlo's made in 1970 that Gm has no idea were ever made. Heres a link to a pic of my car.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=239202

 

Hahaha, ironically I would play this when I was about 12-13.

 

It sure is quiet over here in the 1st year 3rd gen WS6 S/E corner........toss in the LG4, B/W 4 speed setup and I feel like a steak that barely made it to the grill

 

Around here any decent looking third gen is rare as heck. As many of these cars as there used to be around here, seems odd that there haven't been more of them taken care of and still around.

 

yea, in my area also there is more stangs them thirdgens.... but the problem is most of the stangs that people have are nice looking... all the 3rd gens ive seen around here beside my buddy with a 92 vert and my car are alll garbage... i see more crappy birds then maros tho

 

Here is a link to a pic of my used and abused 82 S/E

82 S/E Pic

I wash n wax it at least every 5 years or so

 

GM also made a single '70 Camaro SS with the LS6 454 as well... and they didn't know untill the mid 1990s lol

 

It seems to me that every third gen is different. The only rare ones it seems to me are the TPI cars. I rarely see them.

 

When I first started looking through the boards for this topic I thought I had a rare car too but after reading all of these posts I guess mine is just unusual. I have a '88 IROC white hardtop with black deluxe cloth interior. The outside has the 16" gold insert wheels and decals and the inside just has power locks and windows and no rear defrost. Its a TPI 5.7L car with all the G92 stuff and auto trans. I have never seen another hard top version of my car at all, not even on ebay. If anyone has ever seen or owns one like mine let me know.

 

there was a red convertable t/a for sale at the local car dealer with carmine red interior, it was selling for 7500 bcusk it looked clean, had gta crosslace wheels and brown top, never knew anything about the car other than that

and to answer the person above, my friend had a red 89 iroc hard top 305 tpi 5 spd 1le..head on with a durango didn't take kindly to it

 

Thats another 1LE gone forever then. One guy on this board bought one and parted it out recently. Kind of sad. I wonder how many are actually left from 89?