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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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z28 i just got, is it really an 82 ?

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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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It's an 82, C in the tenth digit of the vin. It also cam with a LG4 305 4 BBL.

But whether it's a Z28 is still up in the air, Sport Coupes, and Berly's came with the lg4 also.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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wow ill be damned its a factory v8 one

thats cool, i am glad its a pre-85, i dont really like the 85-ups very much anyways


and here i was told that this one was a 2.8 car originally, by the PO yesterday,


hahhaa

funny..

thats what i get for taking Po's words for it,

so now i know it was originally carb, and was originally LG4 then- as long as H= LG4 in 82 in which i know for sure because my 82 T/A is H digit car and was 305 4bbl i know,

so thats cool


so now onto other things:

i wonder if it was really a mnual trans car then- like the PO said..
lol..

now i am thinking that it was probably a 200c car, lol..


and we yanked a 9" tail th350 out of it,

so that means if it was a 200c car then they would have had to use a 700r4 driveshaft(shorter shaft since are going from the shorter 200 over to the 3" longer th350)

so hmmm.....


i bet there is no way to tell original trans in an 82 is there.....? other than build sheet or RPo codes ?

right ?

if so then no one will ever know for sure...

unless someone has any ideas how i could tell ? little details ?

hydraulic clutch was put on thse in 82 right ?

wouldnt there be a hole where the clutch fluid reservoir was at on the firewall if it was a manual trans car ?

no ?

what rear axles were put in these in 82 ?
just a 7.5" or was there the 9 bolt yet ?

thanks for further on trying to figure out what this one was originall,y ill get the codes off the body plate in the AM first thing, i dont have a flash light or id get them right now

thanks!!

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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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i bet there is no way to tell original trans in an 82 is there.....? other than build sheet or RPo codes ?
You can get the original dealer invoice from Chevrolet but it now costs $50. It will basically list all the options and the dealer the car was originally delivered/ordered to.

Dealer invoices for Pontiacs has been available from Pontiac Historical Services for about 20 years now. The cost is $35 but you also get a large info pack that contains an original promo photo, dealer order form, specs, ect. You can also get a reproduction window sticker for extra $$$.

FYI, '82-83 F-bodies had a mechanic clutch setup with rods and a Z-bar. First year for hydraulic was 1984.

7.5 is the only rear axle that I know of early on. All the engine offerings were pretty weak in the begining.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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good info thanks

ok, so '82= only the 7.5" for axle option, and only has mechnical style clutch linkage
any ideas what i can look for on this car that would point to proof proving this thing was originally auto, or manual trans ?

just pulled the old 350ci and th350 out of it, so..


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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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look inside your console glove box and find the rpo sticker that has the list of options on it and decode it on this website.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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'82's didn't have a SPID sticker in the console box, only on the data plate rivited to the radiator support, and then it was limited to what it has on it.

Post up what's on the dataplate, I'm sure someone has the info to decode it for you.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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C 08A 1FP87L 196631

13B 19L 19U W

AR9

i was looking in it and hmmm......

the shift plate IS a manual trans one... lol.

it has the H shifting pattern on it,
i think its a 4 speed one

ill have to look again, as i dont remember seeing a 5th gear spot on it

the auto shifter in it is some aftermarket one, a hurst or something, with black leather round ball ****, i dont know jack about shifters, at all, other than stock factory ones,

what color was this thing ? gloss black ? thats what is is on the rear half and in the door jambs and such, all cept the front nose and front part of doors in which are purple


so far it is an 82 Z28 with LG4 and manual trans

and the door says it was 15" tires, BTW

i got this car basically free, as i gave 200 for the pickup that i traded for it, and i have kept over 200 worth of parts from the truck including the th400 tranny and all the engine stuff TBI stuff, etc, plus the 82 84 finned aluminum trans am wheels on the camaro that are worth a good chunk(and that i have been freaking TRYING to locate for the 82 trans am for YEARS now), and then the entire camaro on top of that and that and is in pretyt damn good shape for around here in the midwest,
no rust through and not wrecked and complete interior pretty nice,
the front nose really looks like an 85-up
i have no idea for sure though

how can i tell ?
it seems more bulkier than what an 82 83 84 Z28 one should be,
i thought 82 83 84 z28 noses were less agressive bulky than 85-up ?
or maybe its the other way around ??


i think i came out ahead on this particular deal

and my 86 monte i traded a mercury cougar that i drove away for 30 bucks for it, the monte has no rust through just a coupel spots on the door, the frame is all solid, it runs and drives and mint interior and such, the cougar was a rust bucket but it hd a real good running 5.0 in it, but fords suck, so..



thanks
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Car: 85 iroc & 81 sc
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Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.45/3.42 8.5"
any pictures of these cars??
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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nope i dont have a digicam these days but i do have a scanner and some older pics of various cars ive had including several third gens including the 82 t/a and other stuff but i cant find power cord or usb cord for the scanner now.,,.,,

so i dunno

heres a crappy pic of the 82 t/a when i got it a few summers ago, it was originally silver blue metallic(really super light sky blue)(the current one)




i looked and the 82 z28 has the clutch pedal still in it and the shifting plate is a 4 speed one

i guess one of the PO's were too lazy to remove the pedal when they converted to auto trans

can you rmeove the pedal and arm without removing the pedals asembly or column or anything?

the auto shifter in it is a hurst pro matic 2

does any of my body plate info say anything other than what i already am pretty sure of so far
(82 LG4 4 speed hard top Z28 black paint solid) ?


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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
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also:

08A date code

8th month and first week

is that in 81 or in 82 ??



the 82 t/a was also built in in 8th month(08E)



august must have been a crazy production month for 82 models..



but, were they built in 81 or 82 ?


thanks

I edited this post for language. scottmoyer

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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 03:16 AM
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yank the center console. look at the trans hump. is there a hole for a stick shift tranny shifter? is it factory or was it cut by somone? if it was cut by somone it is factory auto, if it is original it was factory manual.

as for your invoice, call GM of canada. they do em for free, even if it's not a canada car, or so i hear...
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by maroguy1
any pictures of these cars??
clickies in signature for both cars now


as of today
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Xophertony
yank the center console. look at the trans hump. is there a hole for a stick shift tranny shifter? is it factory or was it cut by somone? if it was cut by somone it is factory auto, if it is original it was factory manual.

as for your invoice, call GM of canada. they do em for free, even if it's not a canada car, or so i hear...
naa figured out that its a factory MM4 car

i overlooked a few things, to say the least

the clutch pedal

the saginaw shift plate

etc.,

lol

later on the console assembly will be yanked permanently, when i am cutting weight off the car, sometime next spring or summer


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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Looking at the pictures it is indeed an 82 nose clip.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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yep

i dont know why it seemed like it didnt look right

hmm



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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by cdartz
Looking at the pictures it is indeed an 82 nose clip.
Seconded.

And yes, it would have been a 4spd in 82 if it was a manual.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by aaron7
Seconded.

And yes, it would have been a 4spd in 82 if it was a manual.
yep i finally found it stated on the internet that all 82 manuals were 4 speed and that the LG4 and MM4 wasnt as common of a combo as most others

right ?

too bad i dont want to put it back as a manual and am leaving it as th350

heh



something else i want to know on these 82 83 84 Z28s:

the pinstriping just above all the GFX all way around the car,

were these stripes decals- or were they painted on ?

mine are missing not visible after many years of PO's

i cant feel or see them under the paint, all the original gold GFX parts were black coated by a PO

just curious..


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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Fast68
C 08A 1FP87L 196631

13B 19L 19U W

AR9

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It is not a Z28 or it would say on the plate... see attached.
Attached Thumbnails z28 i just got, is it really an 82 ?-id-plate.jpg  
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Fast68
the pinstriping just above all the GFX all way around the car,

were these stripes decals- or were they painted on ?

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They are decals. You can order them from several places.

Classicindustries.com for one.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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It is not a Z28 or it would say on the plate... see attached.
the 82s didnt have z28 stamped on them ever or hardly ever

for some odd reason

83up did though

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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They are decals. You can order them from several places.

Classicindustries.com for one.
so i should be able to see/feel the raised decals undr paint, etc right ?

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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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so i should be able to see/feel the raised decals undr paint, etc right ?

thanks

They probably removed them. It was common that the edges would come loose over time. I have never heard of anyone painting over the decals.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Originally posted by Fast68
C 08A 1FP87L 196631

13B 19L 19U W

AR9


You have a California car. So the Z28 would not be on the left like mine (the pic), but rather there would be an 8 in the lower right of the tag.

If it is a Z28 in will say on the Trim Tab. From 1971 to 1981 did. And 1983 did. I doubt very highly that 1982 didn't.

http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca...ecode-1981.asp
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by phess11
You have a California car. So the Z28 would not be on the left like mine (the pic), but rather there would be an 8 in the lower right of the tag.

If it is a Z28 in will say on the Trim Tab. From 1971 to 1981 did. And 1983 did. I doubt very highly that 1982 didn't.

http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca...ecode-1981.asp
yes i know its a van nuys car- jut like all other third gens ive owned

i read somewhere on a webpage that alot of the 82 z28 tags were missing the Z28 stamp on the tags, now i cant find the page when i need it.. it was just the other day too...


figures..



ill have to keep looking for that page i saw

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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by phess11
They probably removed them. It was common that the edges would come loose over time. I have never heard of anyone painting over the decals.
probably so

also a PO painted all the gold F+GFX black, can see the gold underneath in different places and the rear bumper is literally caked in black, many layers

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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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I just bought an '83 Z from a friend and Z28 is not stamped on the trim tag(trim tag VIN and windshield VIN match).There is a D and an S on the lower left side of the trim tag.Any ideas what this is for please?Van Nuy's cars have always been an oddity in production,like A-body Flint cars from the '60s and early '70s. She has the LU5 CFI/Auto w/functional fiberglass hood,J65 - haven't gotten to what axle code or was there only one with the rear disc option?,all original except for passenger door(they did put the original interior panel on it at least)and the wheels.The gold 5 spokes(I'm assuming gold since the lower stripes are gold/bronze)are gone but will be replaced in the future.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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If the crossfire motor matches the VIN, then it is a Z28, as that wasn't available in the base model.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Thankyou aaron7.I was thinking the LU5 was Z28 only but not 100% sure.It never hurts to ask only does if you don't.
The big tricolor Z28/Crossfire badge on the dash(as well as the 2 on the lower rockers and the rear bumper should be good hint too..LOL

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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by coolram62
I just bought an '83 Z from a friend and Z28 is not stamped on the trim tag(trim tag VIN and windshield VIN match).There is a D and an S on the lower left side of the trim tag.Any ideas what this is for please?Van Nuy's cars have always been an oddity in production,
Yeah, I have done some more research and it appears that 82-83 Van Nuy's trim tags did not have a Z28 indication on the trim tag. Norwood did. Also, Van Nuys did for earlier 70's-81 Z28. "Oddity" is a understatement!

oh well,
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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i knew i wasnt imagining things lol

good to learn about more oddities




coolram got pics/spid label rpo's of that 73 BB pickup ?

what driveshaft does it have and what length/type of output shaft does it have on that th400 ?



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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Fast68 I'm sorry I don't have any pics of the truck.She was my Dad's before he went into a nursing home recently.The RPO label is still on the driver's side inner fender,what a place to put it but that's GM for ya,and 99% readable.Did you need any codes?
She does have the 2 piece drive shaft since she's a long bed.But I'd have to get back with you on the TH400's output shaft.
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