Camaro, the Third Generation
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Camaro, the Third Generation
Willie, I did some poking around on this book, and according to amazon.com, the publication date is 1981. I thought this book had all sorts of thirdgen info? It would seem that either that publication date is an error, or the book is just all about the development?
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 2,926
Likes: 5
From: Tucson, Arizona USA
Car: 1987 Z28 Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 5-speed
Jim,
I have both the first and third printing of this book. The books are completely different. The first printing is dated December 1981. The third printing is dated 1987.
The ISBN is a unique number and can be used to gather data on a particular publication. The first printing's ISBN is 0-932128-02-5. The third is 0-89586-460-6.
Hope this helps.
Willie
I have both the first and third printing of this book. The books are completely different. The first printing is dated December 1981. The third printing is dated 1987.
The ISBN is a unique number and can be used to gather data on a particular publication. The first printing's ISBN is 0-932128-02-5. The third is 0-89586-460-6.
Hope this helps.
Willie
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
It certainly does. Now if I can just find a copy! My avenues through amazon.com all came up dry as I'm sure previous others have found. My mother works at a library, so maybe she'll have some luck. Thanks.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
2011 Norwood Gathering
ThirdGen Firebird Rep
ThirdGen Firebird Rep
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,435
Likes: 4
From: Sarasota FL
Car: 99 WS6 / 00 SS / 11 CTS-V / 13 300
Engine: LS1 / LS1 / LSA / 5.7 Hemi
Transmission: 4L60E / T-56 / 6L80E / W5A80
Axle/Gears: 3.23 / 3.42 Auburn / 3.23 / 2.62
I tried ordering mine through Barnes and Noble, and it was so old it wasn't even listed anymore!! Normally they have records for out of print books, but I think this one may be too far out of print.... 
------------------
Jason E
'89 Camaro RS 2.8
Medium Grey Metallic/AT/T-tops/all power
Hypertech chip/2 K&N filters/Modded air box
Eclipse CD/Eclipse 100x4 amp/Boston4x6 plates, 6x9 RX 3 ways/ALL Monster's goodies
Alpine Alarm w/ Keyless entry
IROC tailights/t-windows

------------------
Jason E
'89 Camaro RS 2.8
Medium Grey Metallic/AT/T-tops/all power
Hypertech chip/2 K&N filters/Modded air box
Eclipse CD/Eclipse 100x4 amp/Boston4x6 plates, 6x9 RX 3 ways/ALL Monster's goodies
Alpine Alarm w/ Keyless entry
IROC tailights/t-windows
Jim,
Did you have Amazon put you on their list for searching? They will check all their connections (book stores, dealers, whatever) and if they ever find it, will get in touch with you.
I did this for some book and totally forgot about it. About 3-4 months later, Amazon sent me an email because they found my book in some bookstore somewhere and could get it for me.
Maybe this will help you.
Did you have Amazon put you on their list for searching? They will check all their connections (book stores, dealers, whatever) and if they ever find it, will get in touch with you.
I did this for some book and totally forgot about it. About 3-4 months later, Amazon sent me an email because they found my book in some bookstore somewhere and could get it for me.
Maybe this will help you.
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
I just bought it today. Neeener Neener Neener!!!!

My mother (librarian) did a little digging and found a website that has a huge search engine for used books, and some store in California had it listed. I immediately bought it, and now I'm just hoping that I don't get a "Sorry, we sold out 14 years ago and just didn't update our website" type of message.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

My mother (librarian) did a little digging and found a website that has a huge search engine for used books, and some store in California had it listed. I immediately bought it, and now I'm just hoping that I don't get a "Sorry, we sold out 14 years ago and just didn't update our website" type of message.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Egg on my face! The place emailed me back and said that they already sold it
They should have taken it off their listing.
I found it at another location, except now I'm going to get cranked for $50!!
This better be worth it!
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
They should have taken it off their listing.
I found it at another location, except now I'm going to get cranked for $50!!

This better be worth it!
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Whoo Hoo! Barns&Noble.com just emailed me. The book was shipped today
. And it only cost me $55 
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
. And it only cost me $55 
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
It came in last night 
That book is absolutely astonishing. Well worth the 50 clams it cost me. Some of the prototypes are extremely interesting to see, especially considering how many rejected ideas were used later on. Awesome book.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah

That book is absolutely astonishing. Well worth the 50 clams it cost me. Some of the prototypes are extremely interesting to see, especially considering how many rejected ideas were used later on. Awesome book.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
I'm taking your word Jim that this book is good because I just ordered it through Barns & Noble from some book store in NV. The price was $20.00 and it says it is in very good condition. I hope I don't get an e-mail saying they don't have it anymore.
------------------
David Higgins
1986 Black Iroc-Z
305 TPI
Edelbrock Cat-Back
K&N Air Filters
------------------
David Higgins
1986 Black Iroc-Z
305 TPI
Edelbrock Cat-Back
K&N Air Filters
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
You sure you ordered the 3rd printing and not the first printing? Barns & Noble is where I ordered mine, and mine was the only one listed, and it was $50. The first printing was listed for about $20 from a bunch of places.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
I just went to www.bn.com and this is what I got:
Condition: VG/VG with Brodart DJ cover. 96 pgs., 4to oblong.
Format: Hardcover / First Edition / Dust Jacket
Associated Dealer: BookLovers Las Vegas, NV
Our Price: $20.00
We’re sorry, this item is no longer available.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Condition: VG/VG with Brodart DJ cover. 96 pgs., 4to oblong.
Format: Hardcover / First Edition / Dust Jacket
Associated Dealer: BookLovers Las Vegas, NV
Our Price: $20.00
We’re sorry, this item is no longer available.
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Thanks for the heads up Jim I just stopped the order. I'll just have to keep on looking for it. Now the copy I want is the Third Edition right?
------------------
David Higgins
1986 Black Iroc-Z
305 TPI
Edelbrock Cat-Back
K&N Air Filters
------------------
David Higgins
1986 Black Iroc-Z
305 TPI
Edelbrock Cat-Back
K&N Air Filters
Thread Starter
TGO Supporter
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 13,579
Likes: 9
From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Yeah. Here's the info that Willie wrote above:
------------------
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Jim,
I have both the first and third printing of this book. The books are completely different. The
first printing is dated December 1981. The third printing is dated 1987.
The ISBN is a unique number and can be used to gather data on a particular publication.
The first printing's ISBN is 0-932128-02-5. The third is 0-89586-460-6.
I have both the first and third printing of this book. The books are completely different. The
first printing is dated December 1981. The third printing is dated 1987.
The ISBN is a unique number and can be used to gather data on a particular publication.
The first printing's ISBN is 0-932128-02-5. The third is 0-89586-460-6.
The IROC Homepage
<A HREF="http://www.rit.edu/~jli4307/camaro" TARGET=_blank>
View the restoration of an 85 IROC</A>
"I didn't know a bored out Ford could go so slow" -Shenandoah
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: Aurora, ON, Canada
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: 4 Spd Auto
Yea that book is great I got it a few months ago. I paid 50 canadian for mine but it was shipped from the USA somewhere so they sorta raped me on shipping :P I just called a few local book stores and they did some poking around for me, wasnt too hard at all. Its definately worth the money though, tons of interesting info.
Well guys, I guess I have my own version of this rare book. I have a copy of "Pontiac's Third Generation Firebird & Trans-Am".
It also has a lot of prototype drawings as well as photos and is quite similar in respect to what you have described.
The author is Martyn L. Schorr
------------------
FORMULA 350 TK
Southern California 3rd Generation F-Body Organization©
It also has a lot of prototype drawings as well as photos and is quite similar in respect to what you have described.
The author is Martyn L. Schorr
------------------
FORMULA 350 TK
Southern California 3rd Generation F-Body Organization©
Member
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 206
Likes: 14
From: Budd Lake NJ, USA
Car: / 89 IROC /
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
I just got an email from Amazon, mine will be on its way for a mere 59.99. sounds like a great book.
------------------
89 IROC original owner, 3 amplifier 8 speaker Kenwood/Infinity sound system, 300,000 miles on original 305 TPI. Change your oil!!!
[url=http://members.bellatlantic.net/~viking88/iroc.html]
------------------
89 IROC original owner, 3 amplifier 8 speaker Kenwood/Infinity sound system, 300,000 miles on original 305 TPI. Change your oil!!!
[url=http://members.bellatlantic.net/~viking88/iroc.html]
Senior Member

Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 861
Likes: 6
From: Marietta, GA
Car: '84 Z28
Engine: L69
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Hey Jim check this out. I've got both editions of this book too. The first one is signed by some Norwood assembly line workers, and the second is signed by some Van Nuys assembly line workers.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
IROCZDAVE (88-L98)
Interior Parts for Sale
4
Oct 6, 2016 09:08 AM
Thomas
Exterior Parts for Sale
21
Oct 7, 2015 05:33 PM
Thomas
Interior Parts for Sale
12
Oct 3, 2015 05:34 PM
IROCZDAVE (88-L98)
Interior Parts for Sale
0
Aug 6, 2015 03:51 PM





