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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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weird gold Z-28 Badge

Ok apparently there has been some confusion with a couple of my threads, I posessed an 83 F-41 Camaro with a 350 2bbl swapped into it, the deal with it's owner was getting fishy so I returned the car and told him "No title no cash" so instead I purchased an 82 Z-28 that needed a little work to get it on the road. Along the way a few things caught my eye. First was the wiper and washer on the rear window which a member on here said was one of the 14,000 made in 82 with the rear wiper/washer option, cool. second was the gold Z-28 badge on the dash panel which looks to be original, no glue or excess adhesive nor does it look painted, I mean maybe it is or maybe it isnt I was just curious to see if someone out there knows what it is, maybe Canadian?
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

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second was the gold Z-28 badge on the dash panel which looks to be original, no glue or excess adhesive nor does it look painted, I mean maybe it is or maybe it isnt I was just curious To see if someone out there knows what it is, maybe Canadian?
In 1982 there was both a Gold stripe and a Gold Z 28 Badge. The badge color was coordinated with the stripe color. Most likely the car exterior color was Gold Wing Metallic, Code 55 or Dark Gold Wing Metallic, Code 67.

If you still have the trim tag on the radiator cover, or just in front of it, look on the second line. The second and third set of digits will be xxL and xxU. The xx will be the color code the exterior of the car was painted. They will both be the same.

The Gold Stripe had the following codes:

Upper Stripe: Med. Gold, WMH7673
Middle Stripe: Lt. Gold, WMH 7535
Lower Stripe: Black, WMH 848

The Gold Badge had the following codes:

Upper: Dk Gold, WMH 8078
Middle: Med Gold, WMH 7326
Lower: Lt Gold, WMH 8113

Also, take a look at this link, there may still be some of the Gold Badges available.....

http://www.moderndaymuscle.com/exterior1?start=20

Last edited by 82CrossFire Z28; Aug 6, 2008 at 12:13 AM. Reason: Added link to moderndaymuscle
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

The actual color was black thats whats weird about it
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Bowtiebruiser a black car (code 59) could have the gold stripe/badge/wheel package also. But the gold interior badge is interesting and you said your '82 was originally a Crossfire car (VIN eigth digit 7).

82Crossfire are you stating that there were gold interior badges in '82? If so then why wouldn't it have the Crossfire Injection on the bottom of it? And thank you for the link as someone finally has the rear bumper Crossfire emblem as mine isn't in great shape (painting it hasn't really helped).
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

he only reason I figured it's a crossfire car was the fast that it has 2 separate mufflers connected by a pipe(according to TGO the only ones that got it were CFI cars) in which I am looking for a performance replacement
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

I've still not seen any literature or example of a gold dash badge, and the fact that it doesn't say "Crossfire Injection" beneath it might be a clue also. Could it be a bumper emblem?
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Post a closer picture of the emblem...

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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Originally Posted by Bowtiebruiser
he only reason I figured it's a crossfire car was the fast that it has 2 separate mufflers connected by a pipe(according to TGO the only ones that got it were CFI cars) in which I am looking for a performance replacement
I've seen multiple LG4 cars with that muffler.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

CoolRam

I did not see in BowtieBruiser's post where he said his car was a Crossfire. Yes it would be interesting to know if was VIN Code 7 (LU5 engine) or H (LG4 engine)

Yes, I am saying his car could have had a GOLD Instrument Panel Badge. If his car was originally Code 7 the dash badge should have included "Crossfire Injection" below the Z 28. Otherwise it should just say Z 28. See the different part numbers below. In general it appears that in 82 the badge (interior and exterior) color was coordinated with the stripe colors.

Glad to give you a link for the bumper badge. I think Phoenix Graphics also sells that bumper badge, as well as the other company that sells the stripe kits and who's name escapes me at the moment.

Bowtiebruiser

Yes I can see a Black car with the gold stripes and badging. I did not think of that the other night. I do remember seeing the Dark Gold Wing Metallic, as one of the folks where I used to work had an 82 Camaro in that color. This was back in 82-83

Also, 82FirebirdTA is correct on the dual exhausts. The 1982 Camaro Factory Assembly Manual I have shows both the LG4 engines and the LU5 engines in the Z28 package with dual exhausts.

Kevin84Z28

The information I posted on the Gold Color Strips and Badge were from the 1982 Camaro Factory Assembly manual. The particular sheet I got that information from was for &Z28 cars that year......ALL Z28 cars regardless of engine.

From the same manual, detailing where to install the Instrument Panel Badge, it lists the following part numbers.......

Model: &FS87 Badge Part Number: 14031726
Model: &Z28 Badge Part Number: 14031725 (Carbed engine, LG4, Vin H)
Model: &LU5 Badge Part Number: 1404458 (Crossfire engine, LU5, Vin 7)

If you want, I can scan the sheets and post them

Dave

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Originally Posted by 82CrossFire Z28
If you want, I can scan the sheets and post them

Dave
Yes please, very interesting. Thanks
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Ok thanx T/A for the clarity on the exhaust,the info you all need to know from my vin is as follows; it's an original Z-28, had the LG4 305 (code H) was made in Norwood,Ohio, and is number 130,110 of the run. And no it's not an exterior badge as it's only 4 1/2" long the exterior badges are 6"
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Originally Posted by Kevin84Z28
Yes please, very interesting. Thanks
Kevin

First is a page from the 1982 sales brochure. It shows the interior and exterior color combinations. All the sheets from the Assembly manual have a few differences from the sales brochure. "Silver Gray" interior in the Sales brochure appears to be "Slate Gray" in the Assembly manual. "Camel" in the Sales brochure appears to be "Doeskin" in the Assembly manual.


82_Camaro_IP_Badge.pdf has the part numbers for the various Instrument Panel Badges. It dose not include the sheet showing the badge for the Indy Pace Car Replicas.

82_Camaro_Z28_Stripes.pfd had the wheel color, stripe colors and badge colors, along with the interior and exterior color combinations associated with a stripe and badge color.

82_Camaro_Interior_Trim.pdf lists the interior RPO codes for various trim levels and lists all the accent colors for trim pieces, based on the base interior color. This is a 1.5MB file so I don't know if the software will let me upload if. If not I will have to rescan it as jpg files and reduce the size. Looks like 1.0MB is the max file size so I will post this info later this weekend.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Maybe I'm not following, but where does the gold dash badge come into play? It's late and I'm tired, but I only see one part number for the Z28 model. I'm assuming that the three dash badge part numbers are for the following: Z28, Z28 Crossfire induction, Camaro. How would we know that there was a gold Z28 emblem? If you're saying that the dash badge corrolated to the trim color then couldn't we assume that there were many different colors depending on your interior trim. I don't think thats the case because I've only see or heard of the red/orange Z28 and the Pace Car badge for 1982.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

Bowtiebruiser the dual muffler exhaust was RPO-N10 and was available on all '82-'83 Z28s(possibly up to '84 and possibly on all V8 F-Bodies). It's most commonly seen on Crossfire cars (mine has it still). With the introduction of the much better single muffler exhaust for the L69 the N10 system was phased out. You would be better off IMHO to use the catback for the L69 instead of the LG4(for that matter everything cat foward too). It's another GM oddity of reusing RPOs with the N10 being the same for the dual cat system of later cars.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

i could be wrong here but isnt that a rocker badge?
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

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i could be wrong here but isnt that a rocker badge?
Thats what I though, but in another thread he says it's 4 1/2 inches. Rockers are 6 1/2 inches. We need a closer/better picture to examine.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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Maybe I'm not following, but where does the gold dash badge come into play? It's late and I'm tired, but I only see one part number for the Z28 model. I'm assuming that the three dash badge part numbers are for the following: Z28, Z28 Crossfire induction, Camaro. How would we know that there was a gold Z28 emblem? If you're saying that the dash badge corrolated to the trim color then couldn't we assume that there were many different colors depending on your interior trim. I don't think thats the case because I've only see or heard of the red/orange Z28 and the Pace Car badge for 1982.

Kevin

Yes it can be fustrating to understand some of the GM documention late at night

I have spent a few nights trying to figure out the charts. The badge colors were determined by the interior trim color and the stripe color. They were associated with the stripes via the RPO code for the stripes.

Take a look at the tables in the 82_Camaro_Z28_Stripes.pdf

The top table on the page lists the exterior car color on the left, the interior color across the top (this would be the seat color). In the table, based on exterior color and interior color you get the allowed Stripe Color and the wheel trim color in ().

The next table to the right gives the RPO? and paint color for the wheels.

The bottom table lists the Stripe color from the first table, the Stripe RPO, the stripe colors AND the associated Emblem (BADGE) colors. The Emblem colors were the same for the interior and exterior badges. As near as I can determine you could not substitute a different emblem color for a given strip color. Based on that, if you got Gold Stripes you got Gold Emblems.

Note also the statement, 'No Color Overrides" in the center of the sheet.

As I noted in my last post, I think the interior color "DOESKIN" was replaced by "CAMEL" in the actual production runs. That is the main color in the table associated with Gold Stripes and the Gold Emblem.

So Gold Stripes and Emblems could have been somewhat rare in that folks may not have order that interior color as much as the Dark Claret (Maroon), or the Dark Blue or Charcoal interior colors.

The only way to confirm that Bowtiebruiser had Gold Stripes and Gold Emblems would be if he had the build sheet for the car. The sheet would list the RPO for the Stripes.

I think the Red/Orange badge was fairly popular. I am surprised that you have not seen the Lt Blue Badge. The sales brochure I have for the 82 cars has a rear shot of a Z28 with the Lt Blue Stripes and Badges. Oddly, it appears to have the 'Cross Fire Injection" decal under the side badges on the GFX, but it is missing the Cross Fire Badge on the rear bumper.

Hope this helps you figure this out.
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

And this was for 82 only?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

So in other words under the black primer my car has(or had) gold stripes hence the gold Z-28 logo on my dash panel?
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Dave, I think you have it wrong. On the emblem PDF it has three part numbers for the dash badge, One for "Camaro" one for "Z28" and the other for "Z28 Crossfire Injection" Those are the three offered in 1982. The second PDF, Stripes, dictate what color combinations were avaiable, paint to interior to stripes. Your choices for those dictated what rocker emblems you got. It even gives the color combinations of the rocker emblems, upper, middle, lower. And that's how it is for every year. Unless this was a 82 only thing, there was never a choice for dash badges. I have seen light blue badging, my 84 has the light blue badging, Rockers and bumper, but the dash badge is red. Are you saying that the brochure has a lt. blue dash badge?

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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

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Dave, I think you have it wrong. On the emblem PDF it has three part numbers for the dash badge, One for "Camaro" one for "Z28" and the other for "Z28 Crossfire Injection" Those are the three offered in 1982.
I don't disagree with this. But I am wondering if there was not a fourth dash badge, "Berlinetta" The sales brochure has a full view of the dash for a Berlinetta, with that dash badge. That is the only sales literature that I have with the full shot of the dash. Most concentrate on the instrument package and steering wheel only.

Originally Posted by Kevin84Z28
The second PDF, Stripes, dictate what color combinations were available, paint to interior to stripes. Your choices for those dictated what rocker emblems you got. It even gives the color combinations of the rocker emblems, upper, middle, lower. And that's how it is for every year.
Yes, that is how I understood the chart.

Originally Posted by Kevin84Z28
Unless this was a 82 only thing, there was never a choice for dash badges.
Are you referring to the color of the dash badge? I am assuming that the color of the dash badge in 82 was the same as the colors for the exterior badges. I very well could be wrong in this assumption, but I have not found anything that clearly states what the color of the dash badge was for the Z 28 model. Unfortunately there are very few of the 82s still around in an unmolested state. Makes it hard to see if all the dash badges were red(s) or if they matched the colors of the exterior badging.

Originally Posted by Kevin84Z28
I have seen light blue badging, my 84 has the light blue badging, Rockers and bumper, but the dash badge is red. Are you saying that the brochure has a lt. blue dash badge?
Kevin
No the shot is an exterior one looking from the left, of the rear and driver's side of the car. Look here......

http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/8284z.htm
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

In that brochure, if you check my Vgarage, you can see that I have the blue model on the left. Here is an example of all of the dash badges (Z28) that were used. Only missing yellow Z28/IROC.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Re: weird gold Z-28 Badge

But I am wondering if there was not a fourth dash badge, "Berlinetta" The sales brochure has a full view of the dash for a Berlinetta, with that dash badge.
The Berlinetta dash badge was a gold in color & only offered in 82 & 83.

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