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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Super Duke

I thought I would revive this pic and this car, in case anyone is interested in it. A 2.5 liter GM 4-cylinder getting low 13's and putting out 272HP, in 1983. Not bad, considering the mass-production Iron Duke put out 88HP at the time.

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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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damn that is impressive. I'd like to see more of it.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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damn that is impressive. I'd like to see more of it.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Now that is crazy.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Bump that Duke
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Re: Super Duke

There is a story about that car in the July '83 issue of Hot Rod. I don't know if it is available on TGO or not.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Re: Super Duke

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There is a story about that car in the July '83 issue of Hot Rod. I don't know if it is available on TGO or not.
I don't see a copy of that, Denny. If you have a copy and can submit it to us, email it me at webmaster@thirdgen.org

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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Yep, I have a copy. I'll scan it when I get a chance and e-mail it to you.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

I want to think that I may have an article about a similar engine that they were putting in racing Fieros. it even has GM part numbers to make the engine IIRC...

If I get a chance to scan it in I will... of course I would have to find it first.

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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Re: Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

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I want to think that I may have an article about a similar engine that they were putting in racing Fieros. it even has GM part numbers to make the engine IIRC...

If I get a chance to scan it in I will... of course I would have to find it first.

John
The real 1984 Indy Fiero Pace Car had a version of the Super Duty.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Re: Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

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I want to think that I may have an article about a similar engine that they were putting in racing Fieros. it even has GM part numbers to make the engine IIRC...

If I get a chance to scan it in I will... of course I would have to find it first.

John
The article I have has the GM part numbers as well.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

This is an article about the SuperBird From the "Pontiac Performance Plus" mag made by Hot Rod...
Attached Thumbnails Super Duke-superbird-page-1sm.jpg   Super Duke-superbird-page-2sm.jpg   Super Duke-superbird-page-3sm.jpg  
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Re: Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

Last Page...

There is actually another article about the Fiero, in the booklet/Mag which also gives specs and how to modify parts etc etc etc. I do not have time to actually scan them all in.
Attached Thumbnails Super Duke-superbird-page-4sm.jpg  
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Re: Super Duke at the May 1983 LA Auto Show

That is so awsome! I would love to have an iron duke Camaro whooping on some LS1 cars. And it's pretty cool they did that back in 83. I would like to see what they can do with todays technology on that motor. Adam :-)
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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Re: Super Duke

If anyone has any more bits of information of pictures of this Super Duke, it would be greatly appreciated as i'm about to make a 1/10 nitro powered replica of this car in the upcoming months.

Like that spoiler for example, can't see anything of it and can't for my life find anything that looks like it. Looks like a mini Trans Am/GTA like spoiler? Not sure what to think of it.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 09:18 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Super Duke

I don't think there is anything better for a picture of the spoiler, unless someone comes up with one.

On doing research from the 1980's unlike today where you can find a picture of just about anything you want, there are pictures of cars, like this one, that you cannot find. Unique pace cars for example that no one bothered to take a picture of using film...

Back in the day, you go to a car museum, and you just left it at that, today people take all sorts of pictures with digital, as it is essentially free to do so. Way back when no one took pictures of things like spoilers, or anything because they used film, film and processing was expensive...
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Re: Super Duke

Originally Posted by okfoz
I don't think there is anything better for a picture of the spoiler, unless someone comes up with one.

On doing research from the 1980's unlike today where you can find a picture of just about anything you want, there are pictures of cars, like this one, that you cannot find. Unique pace cars for example that no one bothered to take a picture of using film...

Back in the day, you go to a car museum, and you just left it at that, today people take all sorts of pictures with digital, as it is essentially free to do so. Way back when no one took pictures of things like spoilers, or anything because they used film, film and processing was expensive...
True.. shame that those details can't be found anymore though. Even the first picture on this thread seems to be lost saddly.

When i look at the rear spoiler, i could only imagine a topdown view to look a bit like this:

But then again its most likely all wrong. Hard to make up details that are unseen.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Super Duke

I have no idea...
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 01:30 PM
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That is a very cool piece that I have never seen!
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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Re: Super Duke

I get that this is an ancient thread, but I've found some interesting info on the DGP kit for folks skulking about here (like me). The brochure includes dimensions for anyone looking to take a swing at reproducing the pieces. It may be there was no spoiler on the car in the Pontiac Performance Plus article, instead a reflection of the sky in the paintwork that gave the impression of something on the trunk



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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 12:07 AM
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You can go to Norris Racing


Or FiveStar Bodies.

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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 02:53 AM
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Re: Super Duke

That's the ISMA car, with its infamous hood. I would like to see the hood produced again. Best looking fiberglass hood ever made for Firebirds, IMO. Would be even hotter in carbon fiber.

The rest of the body kit isn't bad either, as body kits go.

So that car had a beastly Duke. Interesting.
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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I wish I could find an old SD cylinder head ... have a 2.5L project that could use it.
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 02:55 PM
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I wish I could find an old SD cylinder head ... have a 2.5L project that could use it.
you should check with Norris. Ill bet he has it. He has a copy of the IROC series camaro hood. Not that ugly daytona hood thats available. I dont remember what hood he had on his late model in the photo.
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 03:29 PM
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you should check with Norris. Ill bet he has it. He has a copy of the IROC series camaro hood. Not that ugly daytona hood thats available. I dont remember what hood he had on his late model in the photo.
Any ideas on how to contact him? Nick Norris? Same as Nutek or different?
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I have high res scans of this article. It’s one cool car.



https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0gyQbgYjXzfOWstRWs4SFpNcTA/view?usp=drivesdk&resourcekey=0-_kFULSA09o_nJnCuiGAPMw

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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 10:54 PM
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Any ideas on how to contact him? Nick Norris? Same as Nutek or different?
Norris Racing: (760) 419-2193
In Ramona CA. Great place to visit being a car guy.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 01:05 AM
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This is the Norris Camaro hood. I know he has pin on. Not sure about bolt on?
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Re: Super Duke

Originally Posted by Camaro51
Or FiveStar Bodies.
If I could find *this* for an 82-92 firebird I might build a 3rd Gen lol... Hmmm that's the body line I like. I'd probably mess with them, but that's real close. I'd actually sharpen them up on the top edge and then shave the sides with a larger wheel opening...

With a notch back and a nightrider front end, with three pairs of the little led block headlights off a cyber truck...

I've got a whole idea going but can't find a widebody this style lol.
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If I could find *this* for an 82-92 firebird I might build a 3rd Gen lol... Hmmm that's the body line I like. I'd probably mess with them, but that's real close. I'd actually sharpen them up on the top edge and then shave the sides with a larger wheel opening...

With a notch back and a nightrider front end, with three pairs of the little led block headlights off a cyber truck...

I've got a whole idea going but can't find a widebody this style lol.
Norris Racing makes the Pontiac version too. That's what his personal car is.
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