Ok, first questions. What year did they make the Iroc in yellow? Could you get a 350 with T tops? Same question for gunmetal grey. Also could you get a 350 T top formula? In the late 80's not the banshee nose. I believe with the banshee nose you could and the verts in the 90's but didn't know about the 80's.


Also how many cars did they make in Polo green and purple haze?

The only years for yellow on the IROC-Z is 1985-87. The only year to get it with the 350 and ttops was 1987 since that was the year the 350 returned and the last year for yellow IROC-Zs. The gunmetal grey was a one year only color for the IROC-Z in 1988. It too was available in 350/ttops. The Formula was available with 350/ttops during the late 80s also.

Thanks, What about the same colors for the birds(t/a, GTA's) etc.


anyone got some info on the purple haze and green?

Both the purple haze and polo green were 92 only colors if im not mistaken. You could not get a z28 in the polo green. Just an RS i believe.

thanks, Also one other question. could you get a yellow or grey 350 vert iroc??

In theory anyway, the L98 wasn't approved in the convertible... So from the "factory" it's a no-go combination. However since ASC converted the cars, it's possible to have had a 350 Iroc converted, even though it wasn't offered from GM.

I know its possible. 350 car could have been converted. All they needed was t tops and these cars could have them. anyone ever seen one?

Does anyone happen to know the paint code for the burnt orange Iroc? I think I may have to go with another paint if I can't find it. I want to keep it as original as possible.

thanks for hi jacking my thread.

jk, can you post a picture of the color? I probley know it. Just got to make sure its the right color.

here is my vert. any info would helpful.

The paint codes are at the bottom of the SPID if it's still there. Even if you can't find the code, you can have the paint matched to the existing color.

my body and paint guy thought so too but he's having a hard time matching it, or so it seems. forgive my not knowing but what is the SPID or is it slang for speedometer.

Service parts identification decal

It's the label in the center console that shows all the RPO codes, Vin number, and paint codes.

gotcha, unfortunately i might have thrown it away with the console as it was in very bad condition when i got the car.

My references show Medium Orange Metallic code 9188 63.

Thank you sir I believe you are right. Much abliged have a good evening

There ARE 4 known IROC-Z L98 Convertibles made by ASC in 1987... I have the VIN for each.

There are aslo about 190 Firebird Convertibles made in 1989 with the 350... 141 GTA's or Trans Am's and 42 Formula 350's.

As far as T-top 350 cars, for 1987 they are more common for Camaros, but not common at all for Firebirds, There were no T-top Formula 350's in 1987 that I know of, not even exported to Canada. There were a few GTA 350's with T-tops in 1987 however. I am not aware of any 1988's with T-tops and the 350... In 1989, there were a TON of T-top 350 cars. and in 1990 there was 1 Camaro L98,CC1, and 98 Trans Am's (NO GTA's), and no Formula 350 T-top cars...

In 1991 There were no B2L(L98) CC1 Camaros, but there were at least 44 Formula 350's with T-tops, no GTA 350's or Trans Am 350's.

In 1992 There were no GTA 350's, T/A's 350's, Camaro's 350's with T-tops, but there were at least 204 Formula 350's with T-tops.

As far as Yellow.
1985 Yellow was introduced on the IROC 50U IIRC, in 1986 the color changed to a BCCC and the number changed to 51U. The Yellow was discontinued in mid year 1988.

In 1987 & the early part of 1988 The Formula was the only model available in yellow.

John

thanks for the info! Those 4 didn't happen to have a yellow or grey in there? lol that is alot of the info I was looking for. thanks for the help.

since we are on the rare paint colors.

does anyone know how many two tone black/red stripe/ gray 89 formula 350's made.
I am wanting to know for s***s and giggles. I have had this car for 20 years and have yet to see another color combo like it. I have seen pictures of course but never on the streets. I had it painted all black this year, but always wondered??

I honestly do not know the colors, if thebman shows up he has the information.

John

If you had 1990, I could tell you... exactly how many were made like yours... 1989 is not available at this point. Wish it was tho... it would complete all my research into the Firebird convertibles.

John

Holy crap, fantastic info!!!!!!

Ok I got another question, about the burnt orange irocz cars. How many of those were made and what years? Also how many 85-90 trans am were made in blue, I think it's called ultra blue metallic

The Orange IROC was available in 1988 only as a mid year option. They dropped the Yellow for the orange. There were 3,010 Orange cars according to the White book

The Blue Metallic, color was rather common. The color number was 98U in 1989 & up, and 23U for 86 & 87... The color in 1985 was 26U, but I believe they are all more or less the same color except 1985 did not have the Base Coat Clear Coat, like 1986-1992 did... The earlier 27 Blue I think was similar but slightly different, without seeing one sitting next to the other I am not sure what the difference is. Even then the mix may be slightly different from car to car, I know that there are variations which are within the color range for matching purposes.

Keep in mind that the 23U for 1988+ was the Maui Blue or Silver Blue Metallic color, not to be confused.

thanks again, why was it only a mid year option and only made that year? something wrong with the color/paint issues? etc? What happened?

I honestly am not 100% sure, I can speculate away, but it may have been a test to see how well the color would do in the market. I suspect that it was a marketing thing, in 1987 Yellow, Medium Gray and Dark Brown were the lowest production for all the Camaro colors, in 1988 Dk Brown was dropped, then Yellow was a mid year drop, and the Orange Met took Yellows place mid year. Silver, Yellow, and the Med Orange did not have a high enough production to compete with the fourth lowest production color of Bright Blue or Medium Gray. In 1989, none of the colors in the bottom three returned for camaro colors, 1990 had the same colors as 1989, and in 1991, Teal was added and wildly popular, the least popular colors were Lt Blue (Maui Blue) and Medium Gray, both of which were dropped for 1992...

I really suspect they look at production and take away colors as they are unpopular. When you have three or four colors that do not have the sales as the 4th least popular color, there is no reason to keep it around, try something new..

John

medium grey? is that gunmetal grey? thanks for all the info, to me it doesn't seem like they gave the colors enough time to gain popularity. Mid year and then dropped? Not many people saw or heard of it till to late probley. Also what dark brown are you talking about? Don't think I have seen that one? picture? and paint code please? lol. That was only 87-88? or what?

Sorry for all the questions. Just always liked the rare colors. They are very cool to me.

The (Chevrolet) Dark Brown 68U AKA (Pontiac) Dark Russet Metallic was a Metallic Brown, it is pretty uncommon, without going thru the White book I think only 700 or so camaros and 372* Trans Am (all were GTA's) were painted that color in 1987... Obviously not very popular... It looks nice on the cars when new, but I suspect that most people thought that brown colors are lacking something in the "sporty" category... I would probably pass on a Brown Camaro or GTA... If it was yellow... that is a different thing altogether ...

John

was this color only 87-88? Also is it the same flat brown color found on the 83-84 Z28 etc? Got a picture of it on a IROC-Z? So I can compare?

The 82-84 Dark Brown Metallic (67U) is much lighter than the Dark Brown Metallic of 1986 & 1987, the Dark Brown Metallic or Russet brown metallic from 1985 is ligher than the 1984 color.

The 86-87 Dark Brown Met, is so dark that it almost looks black in some lighting situations.

The Dark Brown in 1986 & 1987 was NA on the IROC-Z, it was only available on the SC, Beryl, and Z-28.

John

ok thanks,
Any other rare colors I'm missing?

About the Orange metallic available for '88's, The color code is 63U, the WA # is 9188, I looked up the color at work (NAPA) and there is a formula for it, in the cross-fire line of paints it is code 53C-37089. It should be easily obtained from any body shop or NAPA that has paint mixing capabilities. As far as the Color Yellow goes in '88, the color was not available on the IROC. Chris

yellow was only available 85-87 on the IROC.

what years were silver IROC-Z's made?

'85 only. Chris

Thanks alot.

Yes, Flame Red Metallic is a rare color for 1989 Formulas. I ordered one in monochrome (gray lower accent delete). The '89 brochures listed only (Bright) Red, White, Blue, and Black for the Formulas. My dealer accepted the order for my Formula 350 in Flame Red Metallic. Many months later they told me that Flame Red Metallic was a "Trans Am only" color for that year, and asked me to change the color. I declined, and made an idle threat to cancel the order. The dealer's owner called Van Nuys and said "Build it", and I finally got the car. They had also told me that I wouldn't get the floor mats I ordered, but when the car finally arrived, it had them.

Do you know of any others that were built? do you have the build sheet to prove this? Any info on it etc? I would love a flame red formula 350 but I have never seen one.

According to the Compnine database, although they only have Canadian exports for 1989, they show there was 9 Canadian Formulas with Flame Red (74U):

9 of the 1,575 vehicles in our database matching the year and model, have all of those rpo codes (w66,74u,z49). Two of them had the 350 (l98).

Unfortunately, Compnine does not currently have much of the non-exported Third Gens in their database. But this shows that there was alteast some of them out there.

Thanks! so there should be alittle more then that left here because the exports were usually the lower numbers. If anyone has any other info on this please let me know.

I jus searched around and found one in Penn. for sale for 6k but it was a 305 car..

now the flame red color is rare?
on just the 89350 formulas or the whole bird line?
anyone know? my friend has a flame red 89 305 formula. Im just wondering

Thanks for the That's werid they forget to add the cats.
it should be rare on all the formulas for 89 because it was a trans am color only is what I have gathered from this.

ok so now I have more questions.

Did they make a flame red 1991-1992 Z28. I found pictures of one someone posted here a long time ago. Also teal was only avail. on the Z28 in 92 correct? Also for the 91-92 GTA or T/A's how many JY cars were made and what was the rarest color.

The car pictured doesn't look like the burnt orange metallic, it looks more like faded flame red metallic. In those pics anyway.

There is nothing that I have seen that states that the Flame red metallic is NA on the Formula, Firebird, It appears that it may have been NA on the Trans Am however... but optional on the GTA.

News to me.

John

Intresting, I would like to know more on this. Also anyone know about the above?

About the "Flame Red" availability for 1991-1992 Z28's, Dark Red metallic was available on the '91-'92 Z28. The color name Flame Red is actually the GM service name for the color, the sales name was Dark Red metallic. Flame Red code 74U it was Available for Camaros from 1986-1989, from 1990-1992, the service name was Brilliant Red Metallic, The sales name was still Dark Red Metallic and the code was 75U. They are different colors. as far as the color Jamaica Yellow goes for the Firebird in '92, I don't know the color total for all the models, but back around '95 I was looking at a JY '92 Trans Am Convertible for sale at a local car lot, and I called Pontiac, and I think they told me either 21 or 24 '92 Trans Am convertibles were painted Yellow. It is a real shame about this car, It was wrecked and rebuilt and sold at a local used car lot, The guy that bought the car knew it was rebuilt, he had it maybe a couple of years and some kid broadsided it and wrecked it pretty good, I should have bought it... Chris

And Teal Metallic was available in '91 and '92, but '92 Was the only year you could get it on the Z28.

wow thanks for the info. that was alot of the stuff i was looking for.
Anyone know how many Green 91-92 GTA's there where? or what was the rarest GTA 91-92 color?
Thanks.