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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: How it's made Dream Cars "Camaro"
The show is "How its Made" therefore they will take you into the production facility of the 5th or 6th gen Camaro... That is of course they get into their "way back machine" and travel to 1987 to the Norwood OH plant... Then the show would be called "How it WAS Made."
I usually watch these but I have little interest in a Camaro episode. They might do a shot or two of historic Camaros. Aside from performance, the 5th and 6th gens do absolutely nothing for me. They look cartoonish imo and the beltlines are like 4 inches too high- it's like sitting in a tank turret. I actually prefer the 2011+ Mustangs.
Kind of ot: Anyone ever notice all of the mistakes they make in those shows? The 911 episode called the engine a V6 at least twice, etc. I'd remember some other mistakes.
The show is "How its Made" therefore they will take you into the production facility of the 5th or 6th gen Camaro... That is of course they get into their "way back machine" and travel to 1987 to the Norwood OH plant... Then the show would be called "How it WAS Made."
John
Delorean IS firing up the assembly line again.....
The changes in the law about building new cars is showing its effects. Small manufacturers can now build complete cars that can be licensed without having to build hundreds of them or meet all the new standards for safety. It will be interesting to see what other New/Old cars people start building with modern parts.
From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: How it's made Dream Cars "Camaro"
NOw that we are completely off 3rd gen topic... at least the Delorean was built in the 80's... IT appears that the DNC production happens to fall within that special group of cars that can be produced under license of the original manufacturer, but with the newer engine technology.
I would think a nice new Delorean with a Turbo 4 or Turbo 6 from GM might actually be a joy to drive...
Um the commercial I saw clearly had a 3rd gen on the line being assembled. pretty sure they are going to go from 1gen to..... hell what gen are we now... I only go to 3...
From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: How it's made Dream Cars "Camaro"
People say that 3rd gens are not "dream cars" But they often fail to realize that until the 5th generation they had some of the fastest out of the box cars. The 89 TTA & 91-92 Firehawk are still some of the fastest cars... Either of those would be a Dream car to most people.. Unfortunately the majority of 3rd gens were V6, LG4 & L03 cars so they get a huge ding from people that do not realize that there were other engines that were superior.
The changes in the law about building new cars is showing its effects. Small manufacturers can now build complete cars that can be licensed without having to build hundreds of them or meet all the new standards for safety. It will be interesting to see what other New/Old cars people start building with modern parts.
Yea i just seen something on this as a small shop is going to build NEW 33 ford coupes. They can only build up to like 350 cars a year?
Don't want to take us too far off topic, but this is an interesting photo to me.
I'm no expert, but I have spent some time in GM assembly plants over the years, where both full-frame and uni-body vehicles were built. I'm not sure what to make of those hoses. Of course, fighting flu and wide awake at 3am, there could be an obvious answer that is escaping me at the moment.
This completed body is headed for body/chassis marriage. This fixture is only used for moving the completed body to that point. After marriage, under-body connections will be made, then the nearly completed car will be released form this fixture and sit on it's wheels for the first time, and move toward end of line, start-up, testing, etc.
Those hoses look like exhaust hoses to me...like your dealer would use when your car is in the shop for repairs. But what in the world would you need exhaust evacuation for on a fixture that is removed before start-up?
Yes, the show was really based on building a modern camaro on the assembly line. They did talk about the history of the camaro in the beginning of the show & at that time showed various 1st-4th cars, But nothing more than a walk by. A 3rd gen only got a front end shown for a a few seconds & that was it. Not sure what year it was, but somebody else here would probably know from the stripes. Looked like a mid 80's Z28.
Was still interesting as many of those episodes are.
From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: How it's made Dream Cars "Camaro"
Originally Posted by DynoDave43
Don't want to take us too far off topic, but this is an interesting photo to me.
I'm no expert, but I have spent some time in GM assembly plants over the years, where both full-frame and uni-body vehicles were built. I'm not sure what to make of those hoses. Of course, fighting flu and wide awake at 3am, there could be an obvious answer that is escaping me at the moment.
This completed body is headed for body/chassis marriage. This fixture is only used for moving the completed body to that point. After marriage, under-body connections will be made, then the nearly completed car will be released form this fixture and sit on it's wheels for the first time, and move toward end of line, start-up, testing, etc.
Those hoses look like exhaust hoses to me...like your dealer would use when your car is in the shop for repairs. But what in the world would you need exhaust evacuation for on a fixture that is removed before start-up?
It probably is the exhaust tubes. The Carriage that is used to move the bodies down the line, I am not sure when they are separated from the car... Obviously after the drive-train is bolted up underneath. So they might have been used to do the initial check before taking it off the rack.
It probably is the exhaust tubes. The Carriage that is used to move the bodies down the line, I am not sure when they are separated from the car... Obviously after the drive-train is bolted up underneath. So they might have been used to do the initial check before taking it off the rack.
Entirely possible, and I could not come up with another plausible use for those tubes.
And again, I was not intimately familiar with all of the nearly infinite varieties of assembly processes at GM plants in the 80s. My experience is more truck based, and from the 90s (including unibody M/L vans, which had a very similar looking body drop and marriage, which is why I was asking).