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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-GM-25115...BXgBHb&vxp=mtr is this the pump you guys are talking about ?
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Delco Pt # EP241

Is the pump I got for mine back in 2008


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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

That pump would still put out more pressure than the stock LU5 pump, but i believe the others are talking about the 85 corvette pump which was a 5.7 350 TPI.
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I believe I used the Bosch equivalent of the EP241. I kept reading about Delco quality, or lack of, in their Chinese manufactured pumps.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...FR1XDQodGQEClw

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I believe I used the Bosch equivalent of the EP241. I kept reading about Delco quality, or lack of, in their Chinese manufactured pumps.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...FR1XDQodGQEClw



Very true Vince of recent Delco products IE the E-core Oil Filters, But IIRC my EP241 pump had laser stamp of "Made In USA or Canada" and I haven't had any issues with it last 10 years


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Originally Posted by 3rdgenparts
Very true Vince of recent Delco products IE the E-core Oil Filters, But IIRC my EP241 pump had laser stamp of "Made In USA or Canada" and I haven't had any issues with it last 10 years

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I think they started outsourcing the pumps. I bought the pump about 4 years ago and by then I think they outsourced to China.
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thanks for the assistance guys! got a pump on the way from summit, no real other news, aside from picking this up from the local hobby store to go with a few of my others that match my fullsize cars lol




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I saw that blue '79 T/A model at the store and had to have it! The box is so rad.
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thanks for the assistance guys! got a pump on the way from summit, no real other news, aside from picking this up from the local hobby store to go with a few of my others that match my fullsize cars lol




That lil fellow is excited about the Trans AM!
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Well, much to my surprise, My wife called me while i was out picking up a new car, That the CFI was delivered today(wasnt supposed to be here until tuesday)



I have ordered a full rebuild kit for the throttle bodies, Tomorrow I am pulling the injectors out and taking them to my buddies shop to get cleaned and checked.

New 85 tpi fuel pump is on the way

New intake manifold/plenum gaskets are on the way

I SCORED a set of BRAND new never mounted goodyear's that are the exact same as whats on the car currently(which are the original tires), these will be going on the factory wheels to replace the originals

For a set of driver wheels, I'm sending my 15x8 snowflakes off to get refinished, and then repainted the correct gold to match the 83




For my 1981 Turbo TransAm, i ordered 17x9 snowflakes from year one, the turbo wheels just dont do it for me, at all...lol



Should look like that when i get em, I havent decided on tires yet


Tomorrow if i feel a little better (came down with a cold or something), I'm going to focus on dropping the fuel tank, and draining literally every fluid from the car. Im hoping the fuel tank can be cleaned, but im banking on having to purchase one for it.

I also ordered 4 new brake rotors and front/rear pads.

Another worry of mine is the transmission, having sat so long without having fluid circulated and the clutches going dry. My plan for that is to put the car on the lift and let the car warm up fully, and place the trans in drive and let it just sit there on the lift without putting pressure on the clutches from trying to "drive" it, then let it cool, and do it a few more times before trying to actually drive it out. Am i overthinking this? lol

I also am super excited about my new lift! For now until my new shop is built, this is gonna have to make do, I picked up a maxjax 2 post, my current shop is 40x40 with 10 foot ceilings, New shop is going to be 80x60 with 20 foot ceilings, but thats not starting until may or june.





No real other news, Aside from picking up a new to us family hauler, 2008 Charger R/T.
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Chargers are good cars. My daily driver is a 2013 AWD Charger. I love it.
My only complaint is I wish there was a button to turn the AWD on / off. It selects automatically based on windshield wipers and / or temperature. There's days in the winter when it's cold but no snow so AWD isn't needed. I get 5mpg more when it's just in RWD.
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 03:53 AM
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Another worry of mine is the transmission, having sat so long without having fluid circulated and the clutches going dry. My plan for that is to put the car on the lift and let the car warm up fully, and place the trans in drive and let it just sit there on the lift without putting pressure on the clutches from trying to "drive" it, then let it cool, and do it a few more times before trying to actually drive it out. Am i overthinking this? lol
Excellent idea, the more patient and gentle you are in bringing it out of storage the better it will be.
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No real updates, starting cleaning the exterior, its coming along but its going to need to be cut/buffed.

CFI is on and bolted all back down,linkages hooked up, etc etc.

Tank has to come down, i can hear the fuel pump come on, and injectors click, but no fuel from the lines, I hooked my vacuum pump extractor to the fuel feed line on the chassis, and what came out, wasnt as bad as i thought it'd be.

Heres a few pics






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Some more pics after washing 27 years worth of crud off it, this week it will get buffed out, sadly theres a decent amount of fine scratches from the previous owners putting boxes and **** on the car over the years, I think most will buff out though.
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Does this car not have a rear spoiler?
Was that optional on a trans am? I thought they all got one.
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Does this car not have a rear spoiler?
Was that optional on a trans am? I thought they all got one.

All '82-92 Trans Am's received a rear Spoiler as standard equipment


The D80 rear spoiler was an option on Firebird and Firebird S/E during that era


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I think he removed the spoiler to detail the car. It was on the car when he picked it up in the first pics.
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Yes, spoiler was taken off to make cleaning the car easier.

did some work on my 81 tta, and put it in the barn waiting on some parts for that also.
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Nice cars!
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no real updates aside from detailing the new charger, tmrw the mercedes gets detailed and my cummins, hoping transam parts show up tmrw
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Few years ago I rented a 13 Charger V6 and was VERY impressed with TQ and power for a V6 !!! So I was VERY tempted on getting a x-cop Charger but kept seeing them with blown engine and electrical problems @ around 100K miles, NOT good in my book

Know a cop car wholesale guy in midwest with several '12+newer Cop Hemi Chargers for $7000 each. I' m VERY VERY tempted lol



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no real updates aside from detailing the new charger, tmrw the mercedes gets detailed and my cummins, hoping transam parts show up tmrw
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Damn, that 83 sure looks good now. Nice work.
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thanks for the compliments guys, car is just waiting on parts at the moment, i am sending the throttle bodies off to get shaft bearings, and fully rebuilt with new injectors.

Got a call on a line of thirdgens, Currently making a deal to buy them all (12 in total)

Sunday I am picking up a 1989 Formula 350 that's been sitting for 20 years, I will post pictures of that if im able to acquire it, But it looks like its coming home with me, at least im hoping that it does! I also need to get my daughters 83 z28 to my house hopefully this weekend, I did manage to pickup an engine for her car (technically i bought 14 engines haha)

Some will say WTF, but i think its going to be a cool swap...It's getting a 2005 mercedes S500 5.0 liter v8/5spd auto

They are BULLETPROOF reliable, make 363hp and get pretty good fuel mileage, My daily is a mercedes S500, had it 4 years now, has 200k miles, and runs perfect! The 14 engines i bought, 12 are a mix of pontiac 400/455s, the other two are a 400chevy, and a 350 chevy.

Sorry for the scatterbrained post, Ive been burning the candle at both ends all week, and im exhausted lol.
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12 3rd gens? Holy smokes!
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https://youtu.be/uvmlfwIwbS8


SHE RUNS ON HER OWN!! KINDA...haha, had to rig a fuel system, I'll post more a little later, and pics of the other cars.

anyone know how to check ses codes?
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

Originally Posted by 83transamcfi
https://youtu.be/uvmlfwIwbS8


SHE RUNS ON HER OWN!! KINDA...haha, had to rig a fuel system, I'll post more a little later, and pics of the other cars.

anyone know how to check ses codes?
Probably the old paper clip trick. Not sure on the 83s if its slot 5 and 6 like on later cars, it will allow you count the flashes for your codes.
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Probably the old paper clip trick. Not sure on the 83s if its slot 5 and 6 like on later cars, it will allow you count the flashes for your codes.
i wasnt sure, Im having trouble finding an SES list also for the CFI cars
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i wasnt sure, Im having trouble finding an SES list also for the CFI cars
What is your vin code, G, E, or H ?
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apparently my phone wouldnt link the videos...here you go guys...



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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

Originally Posted by 1989formulakid
Probably the old paper clip trick. Not sure on the 83s if its slot 5 and 6 like on later cars, it will allow you count the flashes for your codes.
Paper clip or small wire works. The common codes can be found online
This list is pretty good from what I remember.
https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_co...igit-codes.php
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thanks bud!
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If you want to get real fancy...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Code-Retriev...NUkOw8&vxp=mtr
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Pulled the codes, have a code 51, which is prom error...

haven't found much at all in regards to this code, anyone have any insight ?
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could pull out and reinsert the prom to try and restore proper contact between the prom pins and the socket incase they have became oxidized over the long sit.BTW same thing can happen with the fuses after they sit undisturbed over several decades-once car is back in operation,feel for any fuses that are heating up-pull and reinsert if they heat
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Originally Posted by 8t2 z-chev
could pull out and reinsert the prom to try and restore proper contact between the prom pins and the socket incase they have became oxidized over the long sit.BTW same thing can happen with the fuses after they sit undisturbed over several decades-once car is back in operation,feel for any fuses that are heating up-pull and reinsert if they heat
That is going to be the attempt today. However, I bought another vehicle thats needing brought back to life...so while im still waiting on parts for the transam, thats going to get some of my attention.

Here's the car i picked up, matches my 80s black theme perfectly lol

1987 Buick Regal we4 Turbo 33k miles, another barn find!












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That is going to be the attempt today. However, I bought another vehicle thats needing brought back to life...so while im still waiting on parts for the transam, thats going to get some of my attention.

Here's the car i picked up, matches my 80s black theme perfectly lol

1987 Buick Regal we4 Turbo 33k miles, another barn find!












Damn, how do you find all of these cars so quickly? How far from Chicago are you?
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Damn, how do you find all of these cars so quickly? How far from Chicago are you?
i look for them daily lol, I'm probably two hours from the city of chicago or so.
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i look for them daily lol, I'm probably two hours from the city of chicago or so.
Me too! But you look and find them and I'm always looking and NOT finding them!


We're nearly neighbors. I live in the western suburbs.

That WE4 is sooooooo cool! Congrats! Love to see more pics of that.

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It's being delivered right now, should be here within an hour or so, I'll post some more pics, and of course pics of it being brought back to life, if you guys wanna see it
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

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It's being delivered right now, should be here within an hour or so, I'll post some more pics, and of course pics of it being brought back to life, if you guys wanna see it
Absolutely!!!
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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Would love to see some more pics of that GN when you are able. Congrats on another find!
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 01:55 PM
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

You win the lottery or something??
You're buying new cars ever other week!
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 02:53 PM
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

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You win the lottery or something??
You're buying new cars ever other week!
haha, i wish! Funny you mention that though, Because while i was waiting on the Ttype to be delivered, I went and looked at a 87 formula with 40k miles, thats been sitting for 15 years, I bought it, going to try and get it home tomorrow.

Here's a few pics of the WE4 Buick, It's getting washed and claybar'd here shortly, Curious to see whats under the dust.









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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

Come on out to Connecticut, I've got some rare barn cars you can buy.
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 05:03 PM
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

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Come on out to Connecticut, I've got some rare barn cars you can buy.
PM me if you're serious.

I just got a call 30 minutes ago about a pair of TTA's sitting in a garage, one's mint, the other was hit in the door pretty hard. Hoping to seal the deal on those if i can after i pick the formula up.



Here's a sneak peek of the WE4

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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 05:17 PM
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# 1 is sold but the rest are still here.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fire...firebirds.html
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

Originally Posted by 83transamcfi
PM me if you're serious.

I just got a call 30 minutes ago about a pair of TTA's sitting in a garage, one's mint, the other was hit in the door pretty hard. Hoping to seal the deal on those if i can after i pick the formula up.



Here's a sneak peek of the WE4


Wow, that sucker cleaned up pretty good! Any news on the 12 3rd gens you were gonna get?
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 05:25 PM
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

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Wow, that sucker cleaned up pretty good! Any news on the 12 3rd gens you were gonna get?
Have to go pick them up, Kinda burning the candle at both ends, Birthday was this weekend, and Today was the one year passing of my dad, So I've been taking a break. I picked the WE4 up today, Just because my dad would have loved it, Ive had a few grand nationals, and he got salty everytime i sold one haha.
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 05:32 PM
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Re: Barn find 1983 CFI transam, sitting since 1991, 19k orig miles, opinions on start

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# 1 is sold but the rest are still here.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fire...firebirds.html
PM me about the blackhawk and the #94 1le car
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