Seems like a nice low miler for a fair price.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Chevro...oAAOSwnypcpgpZ

 

I agree....get some underside pics!

 

From personal experience, the issue with that car that'd bug me most is the lack of juevos.

I wish I was cavalier enough with regards to original equipment to take a car like that and throw the boring drivetrain to the craigslist minions and reassemble the way GM should have optioned the RS. The same RS convertible with at least an L98 auto or 6spd with dual cats and 3.23/3.42/3.73 gears and FE2 suspension would be a lot more enjoyable. 145mph cluster, you know just make it less boring.

 

Eggs?

 

Yes. Big metal ones that spark when they swing together while you walk.

 

Not bad! In that classic RS color as well with the big boy wheels!

 

That's a good looking car.

 

Gorgeous car! Even though it's a RS this thing is nice. Price seems fair.

 

Sold!

 

Yet another example of the fact that nice cars that are priced right sell quickly

 

Absolutely!

 

I knew it wouldn't last long somebody got a great car!

 

wonder what it sold for .. says best offer accepted

 

$6500

 

i missed out on a real cool car on saturday .. makes me sick to my stomach ..i texted and emailed the guy on friday and he never seen them and he sold it on saturday about an hour before i called him ..

 

Wow.. deal of the century..

 

Dont take it so seriously....I was just teasing Ray

 

Ha ha.. well you got me bummed I missed out on that deal!

 

These things need to go up in value. I'm glad it sold, but I wish it'd gone higher. Have to wait another decade before I offload mine at the rate RS convertibles are appreciating. Really the value on them has been stagnant for years.

 

No idea why everyone poo-poo's the RS - they get no love - throw an IROC Z decal on it and SHAZAM !! it's instantly a cool car......

 

Because back in the day an RS would muster a 16sec 1/4 versus an LB9, L98 or HO car cracking off 14 sec trips and not being destroyed by everything from pickups to sedans. Lots of difference, no posi and 170hp engines hurt the model. We always said RS stood for "real slow" I think people don't care as much about that now. I know I would buy a clean example like this in a heartbeat. As time goes by clean examples of RS Camaros will go up and rightfully should but right now everyone is looking for that sticker on the side that says IROC.

 

Yeah, it’s more about the nostalgia of seeing those stickers at this point..

The base IROCs with the L03 and the 15” wheels were pretty much an RS with stickers.. They go for good money because of those stickers though..

In our day we called the RS’s “Real Sh!tty”.. It’s not that we didn’t like them, but if we were on the strip lining up with Mustangs, Imports and other IROCs we’d see the headlights and someone would say, “Is that an IROC?”.. “Nope it’s a Real Sh!tty”

Just not worth your time lining up against one of those.

If someone bought a nice one and came around to cruise we would be all compliments, but on the strip they weren’t tolerated..

I remember a guy with an RS vert that used to cruise and he always had girls in his car and none of us did..

Passengers slow you down though!

 

That guy probably had more fun being slow! LOL.

 

True but also there were so many low output 305s in everything, and virtually everyone believed that any V8 had to be fast. Kinda flowed over from the Fox body Mustangs, where the 5.0 badge was all a person needed to see. The same logic didn't apply to Camaros and Firebirds because the vast majority of 305 cars were all slow, regardless if they had call out badges on the rockers, fuel injection, or Iroc decals down the doors. A 145hp LG4 in an Iroc was just as slow at the 170hp L03 in an RS. There were a lot of LB9 cars around, but a person had to really look for the 350 cars.

To this day, the Irocs seem to be riding on the coat tails of their decals more so than true performance. People know what they are, because they can read 5" tall screaming letters at an intersection. A 91-92 Z28 is every bit the performer as an 85-90 Iroc, but they don't get the recognition either. Firebirds aren't even really in the game either, aside from every toolbag with a V8 base Firebird thinking it's a Formula because they saw that written on a door once, and their insurance card or state tax paperwork says "Firebird V8 Formula", whatever. Maybe if Pontiac had the foresight to mark the GTAs with 5" tall letters down the sides, they'd be getting more recognition.

It's just a bit odd how the market works... Yesterday it was all 1LE-vomit, now it's Iroc-mania, who knows what it'll be next. Personally I don't really want thirdgen values to keep skyrocketing, I just want the market on RS convertibles to go insane just long enough for me to deposit mine in a good home so I can get my car in the garage. Right now I have three indoor parking spots and four thirdgens. l hate tying up a parking spot with a car I haven't driven in forever. Guess I need to get Whine Car-Weenie and Jared-Beckstrom on a 3-way conference call, so I can explain to them why the RS convertible is the next big thing. Start submitting puff pieces to Lemmings Motor News, Motortrend, Ripoffnik, and so on... Bend the market to my will, and when it is fully accepted and I've unloaded my Tickle-me-Elmo Beanie Baby, I can move on and ruin the market for some other lesser known next big thing.

 

I think IROCs have "The Look". A combination of the wheels, ground effects, fake hood louvers, etc. Although the the '91s and certainly '92s have some build advantages, they do not have "The Look" with their different wheels, high rear spoiler, more gimmicky ground effects and fake hood scoops.

What's the next big thing for IROC buyers? A confirmed DX3 car. I'm seeing it happening already.

 

Oh I know you just did not... "fake" hood scoops? You mean like fake hood louvers? Fake dual exhaust? Fake Iroc badges on a TBI car... The power blisters are as real as anything else. And the 91-92 ground fx are universally voted most popular to swap onto an earlier car. That big spoiler, it was so cool Ferrari stole the idea for the F40 and it beat the Ricky Racer Rice Rocket commander trend by a nearly a decade.

 

Exactly right! It was obvious GM Design figured F40 fakery would be a good swan song for the 3rd gens.

 

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With all that said, I figure nice and well optioned, low mile RSs will eventually fill the vacuum as nice and well optioned, low mile IROCs go up.

 

YEP, I just sold one !!!

 

Congrats! That was a nice car!

 

Thanks, it's an awesome car for sure. Buyer is a friend so I will still see the car, it's sitting in my garage for another week before he picks it up.
He is kicking around the idea of an LS or GM crate motor swap.

 

91-92 were definitely better cars.. improved interiors, nice leather seats, and they had more power without the squeaks and creaks..

People still called them IROCs though.. it became ubiquitous like Kleenex.. I remember people calling lots of Thirdgens either IROCs or Corvettes..

And I don’t deny Formulas and GTAs were probably slightly nicer cars.. But like what Chaz said, the IROCs went over the top and pulled it off.. They perfected the stripes, the ground effects, the wheels everyone wanted to steal.. An IROC stands out across a parking lot and walk up to it and notice the “Tuned Port Injection” decals and the hood louvers and the common person was like, “whoa”

The Formulas were too understated even with the decals and the decals didn’t evoke as much. When an IROC first went by I thought you have to have ***** to drive a car proclaiming “You Rock” on the side.. and maybe that person is just that awesome..

Maybe if they brought back the screaming chicken in the 80s that would have stuck in people’s heads..

I think the Monte SS is right in the same design playbook as the IROC and even with pretty weak power and handling, I think prices will move on these.. They stand out in the same way..

 

G bodies prices have been up for a while now.....those cars are popular

 

Everyone wanted to put 91-92 ground effects on their IROCs back in the day.. We just couldn’t afford it back then.. The front spoiler was much more solid looking with crisp lines.. The IROCs always look a little warpy in certain reflections.. Not sure if they changed from Urethane to Fiberglass in 91-92, but they consistently look better.. Always with the same parking spot scrape though..

 

Yeah, I’ve been watching.. You can still find a mint 30k mile SS for $10k though as long as it’s not the Aero.. IROCs have moved beyond that.. Though you and Ray Jr seem to find good deals on Thirdgens

My wife would like a Monte SS..

 

Please find me a MINT 30,000 mile Monte SS for $10,000.......!!!!

 

One of their worst moves IMO was putting that goofy wing on the Z28. I had one once and always threatened to remove it. The RS just looked cleaner to me without it.

 

I was checking this one out.. It’s restored, but could be pretty sweet:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...9701871595511/

 

I dont buy cars with the words "Redone" "Repainted" or "Restored" in the description.
IMO, a 30,000 mile car that is "MINT" should be an all factory original example and I'd bet $$$ you wont find a MINT 30,000 mile factory original Monte SS for $10K

 

i agree , i feel the same way .. i wont even look at a car with those 3 words being listed .. you got a mint low mile car for sale and want good money for it , it better be all original .. no excuses

 

the monte ss is bringing the same money as the iroc if not more in some cases .. but they got to be nice and original just like any other car trying to bring good money .. and there is no 30k mile mint monte ss out there that i know of ..

 

Yeah, probably not.. I hear you and I understand your standards are at the collector/museum level.. totally respect that

Sometimes you do see restored cars in museums and collections, but you’d have to check out and verify the restoration for sure and with the Thirdgens there are low mile all original cars around and even though they are expensive, it would cost more to properly restore a some “barn finds”..

I have noticed that the Monte’s in restored form go for high dollars.. I see asking prices of $20k-30k for restored Monte’s with engine upgrades.. That doesn’t seem to be as attractive to the ThirdGen buyers though.. I wonder if the G-Body scene is just different and more open to resto-mods

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=236624448

This one is one owner.. Listed elsewhere for 11,995

https://www.silverstarakron.com/vehi...oh-id-29513749

People really like to put the ZZ3 motors in these it seems

 

Ive sold a few G-bodies and have always came out way better on them than I have third-gens. I drove one daily for nine years then my son did several more with almost zero problems and man they go down the road smooth.

 

Same here. Other words which make me lose interest are "built" and "custom".

 

 

It seems the cool '80's cars are getting up there. It's one thing to ask top dollar for your lower miles original MCSS, but most of them have repaints and crate motors and priced like mint originals. Those will sit.

I mentioned that I've been looking for an '81-'85 Jeep CJ8 Scrambler. You will pay through the nose for a nice, (won't even say mint) original. You will even pay for a rusted project. Crazy!

We've also talked about unmolested Foxes going up. Especially LX notches.


OTOH, has anyone been noticing that late 2nd gen Trans Ams have stopped going up? The rougher ones are even coming down a bit.

 

I think we have different definitions of mint.. I’ll pay $10k for a car that looks like a $30k car.. If the repaint, decals and interior look original I’ll take it..

If I pull up to a cruise night in a car and the consensus is “wow this thing is mint!” That’s my definition of mint. Perhaps an exaggeration. Some say Mint means Flawless. I believe you can remove, undo and fix flaws. The term mint means the condition of a coin as it was minted from the factory. I’d say restorations could be a new mint.

I hadn’t really been looking at Monte prices in a while.. I admit I was off and most out there are partially or fully restored..

I think if you want a nice Monte any time in this lifetime you have to find a good restoration with a stock motor.. The performance upgraded ones seem to have good demand..

I don’t like “customization” either but if someone goes out of their way to keep the car stock I appreciate that.

 

Chaz, check out # 12 on this list....
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...6_Weekend_News

 

I guess I’m always about a year or so too late !