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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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What's it worth??

Well, I may be looking to sell my IROC. I'm just curious what TGO thinks it would be worth. I haven't seen another one in the same condition, options, and miles to even compare it to. A lot of you guys know what the car is, but for those that don't, here's the options, details, and pics.

1990 IROC-Z
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N10 dual cat exhaust
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Almost 44k miles
Brand new General G-max 245/50/16 tires
Gray Leather interior

The car is 1 of 295 G92, 5 speeds built for 1990. It is nice. REALLY, REALLY nice. For almost 44k miles, it's as nice as you're probably going to find. Original paint other than the hood has been repainted due to yellowing from a bra.....never damaged. The paint is excellent, all over. There are ZERO issues with the car. The ac blows really cold. Everything works as it should, including the hatch pull down. The original radio makes some cracking sounds in the speakers sometimes....that's the only thing that isnt 100%. The interior is SUPER NICE as well. Everything is original on the car except for tires, battery, 22lb injectors, and it has an Accel distributor. (It has a black cap so you'd never know it from stock) The car is super clean throughout. The bottom of the car is about as clean as the top side. I am the 2nd owner. There is ZERO rust. NO dings, etc. No rips, tears, burns, etc.

That's about it. Where's a good starting price?? I don't really want to sell it.....but got engaged a while back and....well, you know the story lol.....there are probably other things that would be considered a higher priority




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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 10:45 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 11:27 PM
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Re: What's it worth??

id throw it out there for 15-16k and see what happens
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 11:54 PM
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id throw it out there for 15-16k and see what happens

A gray 88, hard top, 305 automatic IROC with the same miles just sold near me for $16,000....is the 5 speed G92 with the big cam 305 worth any more than a regular 305 with an auto?
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 12:01 AM
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In my eyes, that’s the perfect iroc. Hardtop, stick shift, good option pack, and bring a 90 so it has the better looking dash and being speed density makes it worth leaps and bounds more to me than any 89 and older iroc
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 12:23 AM
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A gray 88, hard top, 305 automatic IROC with the same miles just sold near me for $16,000....is the 5 speed G92 with the big cam 305 worth any more than a regular 305 with an auto?
hey its your car ask what you want .. i just sold mine and been looking around to see whats out there and you can get 10k mile 5.7 irocs for 20,000 .. if someone paid 16k for a 40k mile 305 iroc they are not very bright or doesnt have the internet ..
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Don’t do it! Don’t sell! Work some overtime, work some Saturday’s. I’m a big believer in keeping what you have, so you never have to regret it. You have enough talent to find a way, so explore those options.
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 07:28 AM
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A gray 88, hard top, 305 automatic IROC with the same miles just sold near me for $16,000....is the 5 speed G92 with the big cam 305 worth any more than a regular 305 with an auto?
Only to the right buyer. Someone looking for a rare optioned car than yes you could get more. Someone looking for an IROC, your stripe delete might hurt the value as the average buyer would want a IROC decaled, I think the 16k-17K is the range for your car. If you list it on a collector car site you might find a buyer that sees the rarity and options you have and it probably will take take longer to sell.

IROC's are hot right now so if it was me I would throw a proper set of Pheniox graphics IROC decals and ask 20K on CL...Ride the wave Dagwood!.

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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 08:44 AM
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Straight up, from a guy who's let a dozen collectible cars slip away over the past 50+ years because of "circumstances:"

Find a way to keep both the car AND your soon-to-be-wife. If you sell the car, I can assure you that you will regret it---if not right away, certainly at some point down the road.

As far as the car's worth right now, $16 to $20K, maybe more to the right buyer. But if you sell it, 5 years from how it'll be priceless to you.


And, yes, I 'know the story.' Good luck!

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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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Don’t do it! Don’t sell! Work some overtime, work some Saturday’s. I’m a big believer in keeping what you have, so you never have to regret it. You have enough talent to find a way, so explore those options.
words of wisdom. (unless you are planning to use the cash to buy a firebird )
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 10:37 AM
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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Don't sell the car you'll regret until the end of time!
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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Its tough I did it 17 years ago on my 92 Z28 but buying it back again next month.

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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 07:48 PM
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“Oh no” indeed!
Two words bro, take it from me: cubic. zirconia.
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“Oh no” indeed!
Two words bro, take it from me: cubic. zirconia.

LMAO! She already has the rock lol
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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LOL - even better!
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 01:12 PM
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IROC's are hot right now so if it was me I would throw a proper set of Pheniox graphics IROC decals and ask 20K on CL...Ride the wave Dagwood!.
That would kill the value to a collector, with it having the DX3 code.
And CL is the last place to attempt selling something rare and of value.

We just purchased a '90 IROC with just over 23,000 on the clock, for $15K. It's the 5.7/auto in perfect condition. It's also white... with the grey interior and decal pkg. The price will vary by location.
It sucks that you just bought this, and are now wanting to sell it. The car won't pack it's bags and take half your stuff though.
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 03:18 PM
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The car won't pack it's bags and take darn-near ALL your stuff though.
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I would ask $18k and use Hemmings to sell. Online ad runs for several months and then they run it in one magazine for $100.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 07:24 AM
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Just to make it count, I wouldn't sell it either. Find a way. ...that being said, we all have to handle our own business and finances and if you gotta sell you gotta sell.

I think the DX3 helps if ya find the right buyer. I think most would rather have the stripes. The DX3 ultimately may add value, but it may take a little longer to get it. I'd rather have stripes.

As for it being more valuable because it's a 90, again....depends on the buyer. Obviously Charlie likes the 90+ dash, I KNOW Vinny likes the 90+ dash, but I never have, and though I've never taken a poll, I always felt most people preferred the earlier style. Regardless of personal opinion here in this thread, again....comes down to who's looking at it.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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That would kill the value to a collector, with it having the DX3 code.
And CL is the last place to attempt selling something rare and of value.

We just purchased a '90 IROC with just over 23,000 on the clock, for $15K. It's the 5.7/auto in perfect condition. It's also white... with the grey interior and decal pkg. The price will vary by location.
It sucks that you just bought this, and are now wanting to sell it. The car won't pack it's bags and take half your stuff though.
A collector probably also wouldn’t want a repainted hood or 40k miles when there a IROCs out there with under 10k miles by the dozens.. Decals may help the value on the “non-collector” side of the market... You could always say that you didn’t put decals on for originality, but they can get the original decals from Phoenix and put them on..

The other side to the market is the guy that wants the cruise night car and the IROC in the garage to shine up... A lot of those guys want a 5-speed car and depending on your market $20k is chump change.. Collectors are too picky and don’t want to pay top dollar because they are looking to make money on the investment...

That car would sell up here for $18k no problem to someone who is dying to drive a 5-speed IROC... and there are plenty of rational people that would see your car as being more fun to own than a car that has the original tires on it that doesn’t have the other fun factors that your car has... at a cruise night your car looks just as nice as a 10k mile car to 99% of people..

Yes you can still find cheap, super low mile collectible IROCs out there but those people maybe don’t know how to use the internet to sell a car and are in a location that doesn’t have wealthy people wanting to reclaim their youth... That’s why there’s still some good deals out there...

If you know how to sell a car, don’t sell yourself short on that car...

or maybe don’t sell the car (like others said!)
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:58 AM
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Id try everything I could to keep it but sometimes other things are more important. Personally I think putting "Iroc" badges on would help it sell but car should sell itself anyways because its an awesome car. Who doesn't want a low mileage 5spd TPI car?
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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I'm seriously thinking about selling the car, putting some cash in the bank, and possibly buying a nice 6 speed C4 Vette. You can get a damn nice, low mile car for under $10k. The fun factor would be just as high. Or another third gen if I can find the right car.

I could just really use some cash to pay some stuff off and get a little breathing room. Being a painter at a body shop....I'm not exactly rich lol
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I don't know what a car like that will bring but i paid $2200.00 for my first 3rd gen Z28 a few years ago and had a lot more fun with it than my more expensive IROC i own now. Sell it and bank a bunch of the money and spend the rest on something less expensive that might turn out to be more fun that you can mod and enjoy going a different direction than your nice original cars..
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Originally Posted by Abubaca
Obviously Charlie likes the 90+ dash,
Actually, I like the non-airbag ones better.
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The 6-speed vette is fun for sure and you can get a low mile 1-owner show car for around $10k and it’s probably a little pricier up here..

That IROC though is pretty desireable and rare with a good story too.. I’d try to keep it and get a savings going for a vette.. The prices aren’t going anywhere on C4s with the C8 showing up at dealers soon..

Use that talent you have to do some side work! Just talked to a guy with a famous 67 Camaro that has an insane paint job. The quality and depth was really something... He said he used to work for shops and dealers but now gets offers for $35k to paint cars.. He did his Camaro in his garage and no one believes him.. finished it in 1990 and still looks the same.. He said he drives the car all over the east coast and doesn’t worry about chips because of how much clear is on there... cool guy..

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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 02:07 PM
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Actually, I like the non-airbag ones better.
I was referring to Charlie6178 who made the original post about the 90+ being more desireable. ....but we all appreciate your opinion too! Especially since you and I agree, which in my opinion, makes YOUR opinion more valuable!
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 02:20 PM
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I was referring to Charlie6178 who made the original post about the 90+ being more desireable. ....but we all appreciate your opinion too! Especially since you and I agree, which in my opinion, makes YOUR opinion more valuable!
What about my opinion Chris?
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I prefer the 85-89 wheel and gauges but it’s probably because that’s what reminds me most of the thirdgens I owned in my youth and all the others I drove around in..

I’ve never even really been in a 90-92 Thirdgen that I can think of..

I knew a guy that bought a 91 Z28 when I was still a senior in high school and he had just graduated.. It seemed nice and the leather seats were really cool.. I didn’t like that they changed the Dark Red Metallic that year to more of a magenta than flame.. Wasn’t crazy about the wheels, but they’ve grown on me.. I’m curious to drive a 91-92 because I heard they are much tighter with less body flex.. It’s cool that 90 is the last year of the IROC too... end of an era
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I was referring to Charlie6178 who made the original post about the 90+ being more desireable. ....but we all appreciate your opinion too! Especially since you and I agree, which in my opinion, makes YOUR opinion more valuable!
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:13 PM
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The fact it's a 1990 helps a bit I think. Last year of the IROC in this state and properly optioned is super nice and rare to see.

Put a Phoenix Graphics decal kit in the trunk for the next buyer if they want the "look" haha. I definitely prefer it as is.

20K obo if you have to
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:28 PM
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With regard to graphics.....I am in signs/graphics for a living, and can apply/remove on a whim if I so choose. Every part of my graphic designer brain likes an Iroc better WITHOUT graphics. -but my heart just doesn't think it's truly an Iroc unless it has 'em.

Regardless....this car is stunning. Very nice.
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With regard to graphics.....I am in signs/graphics for a living, and can apply/remove on a whim if I so choose. Every part of my graphic designer brain likes an Iroc better WITHOUT graphics. -but my heart just doesn't think it's truly an Iroc unless it has 'em.

Regardless....this car is stunning. Very nice.
They are easy to strip... but what a waste of money.. The kit is $600-$700 if I recall... But some might prefer them..

Decals that are removable don’t really change originality... Anything that’s easy to change back is key..

Put the idea of putting decals in the ad but that’s for the next owner... Some people might not know there’s a company that makes good repros..
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Well there are so many options that we can go back and forth on, and stripes are only being discussed because they're easily added or removed. As has been discussed, some like the 90+ dash, some don't. Some like hardtops, some want Tees. I think most prefer the T5, but of course not everyone. It's so hard to predict how these cars will sell, who wants them, and what they're willing to pay.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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You have to find a buyer that is a third-gen enthusiast. The average person has no clue what a G92 is or especially DX3. From what I see all the money goes to T-top cars with the decals or super low miles. I would put it on BAT with a detailed description of what makes this car special and that it's not a typical IROC. The car looks great it should sell quick. Good luck.
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Your family is more important than any car. If you need to sell, sell and don't look back. Talk about it, though - most people don't want to be remembered as the reason why their spouse had to give up a hobby. She may want you to keep it, or stay in the car hobby with a cheaper alternative, or save up for a future fun car.

If time's on your side, I'd try and get over $20k for it.

Some things are working against that - the color scheme doesn't pop and car appears to be in Iowa (limits market size). Other than the gray interior, I think the car is perfectly optioned and everybody here seems to love it. No matter what the L98 fans say, the LB9 T5 N10 cars are special and cubic inches can't replace a clutch pedal. But most will still want IROC-Z graphics and nuance like RPO DX3 will be lost on them. Perhaps you could list it at a high price and wait until Mecum returns to Indianapolis in 2020, then bring it there with a reserve. If you do that, a set of black and red IROC-Z graphics might help despite the DX3 RPO. I'd avoid the above recommendation for BAT (Bring a Trailer); most thirdgens I've seen sell there do not bring top dollar.

If you have to sell it now, it should net $13-16k pretty easy. But it'd get scooped up and re-listed at $35k from some classic car dealer!
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 12:32 PM
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Re: What's it worth??

Originally Posted by KMK454
Your family is more important than any car. If you need to sell, sell and don't look back. Talk about it, though - most people don't want to be remembered as the reason why their spouse had to give up a hobby. She may want you to keep it, or stay in the car hobby with a cheaper alternative, or save up for a future fun car.

If time's on your side, I'd try and get over $20k for it.

Some things are working against that - the color scheme doesn't pop and car appears to be in Iowa (limits market size). Other than the gray interior, I think the car is perfectly optioned and everybody here seems to love it. No matter what the L98 fans say, the LB9 T5 N10 cars are special and cubic inches can't replace a clutch pedal. But most will still want IROC-Z graphics and nuance like RPO DX3 will be lost on them. Perhaps you could list it at a high price and wait until Mecum returns to Indianapolis in 2020, then bring it there with a reserve. If you do that, a set of black and red IROC-Z graphics might help despite the DX3 RPO. I'd avoid the above recommendation for BAT (Bring a Trailer); most thirdgens I've seen sell there do not bring top dollar.

If you have to sell it now, it should net $13-16k pretty easy. But it'd get scooped up and re-listed at $35k from some classic car dealer!
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Re: What's it worth??

Originally Posted by KMK454

I'd avoid the above recommendation for BAT (Bring a Trailer); most thirdgens I've seen sell there do not bring top dollar.

If this was my car I would list it on BAT because there are a couple of positives. First, most of the people that frequent BAT are enthusiasts of some type of vehicle, and Second, there is a comment section and the seller can respond to questions. This is a great car and unfortunately, the 1/2 dozen guys that post on this section of the forum know or care about what this car is, the rest of the world doesn't. Putting a decal kit on this car would ruin it.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 04:57 PM
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Re: What's it worth??

Why the low ball numbers here? The mileage is still good at under 50k, the car is 30 years old and in outstanding condition. If it were my car, based on some recent sales, I'd try to list around $24k. The condition of the car and the attention to detail will sell it more than a lack of miles. If it's all original and still looks new, then any buyer will know the car's been taken care of.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 09:59 PM
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Re: What's it worth??

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
Why the low ball numbers here? The mileage is still good at under 50k, the car is 30 years old and in outstanding condition. If it were my car, based on some recent sales, I'd try to list around $24k. The condition of the car and the attention to detail will sell it more than a lack of miles. If it's all original and still looks new, then any buyer will know the car's been taken care of.
i put my number on it if he wanted to sell it now .. if he wants to ask 20k plus and sit on it for awhile thats a different story .. i know he cleaned it up and painted the hood but the facts are that car has been for sale for awhile with no luck and the asking price when he got it was 12,500 .. i showed biztec that car a year ago when they were asking 14k so its been for sale for awhile ..

ps. the car is awesome and i hope he gets 20k for it but it might take awhile for that .. i know where there are a few mint super low mile irocs for 20k but there not sticks there 5.7 autos .. so there is still a lot of good deals out there ..
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 10:12 AM
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I think the car not being advertised as a G92 car probably didnt help the previous owners selling it, along with the bra on the front probably scared a lot of potential buyers. What sucks is they had the hood painted before I bought the car and it didnt match. It probably didnt even need to be painted in the first place. When I removed the bra, the front of the fenders and the front bumper cover were also yellowed......but I sanded and buffed all of it out. Probably could have done the same thing with the hood and had all original paint.

I removed the hood to paint the top side, and there are no paint edges anywhere, etc....so you can actually look it over and can't even tell it's been painted.

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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 11:54 AM
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Re: What's it worth??

Originally Posted by dagwood
I think the car not being advertised as a G92 car probably didnt help the previous owners selling it, along with the bra on the front probably scared a lot of potential buyers. What sucks is they had the hood painted before I bought the car and it didnt match. It probably didnt even need to be painted in the first place. When I removed the bra, the front of the fenders and the front bumper cover were also yellowed......but I sanded and buffed all of it out. Probably could have done the same thing with the hood and had all original paint.

I removed the hood to paint the top side, and there are no paint edges anywhere, etc....so you can actually look it over and can't even tell it's been painted.
I see your game... you’re clearly one of those flippers in disguise!
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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remembered to look this morning and wondered if you figured out what it was worth and if you were selling or keeping, you seem to take nice cars and make them exceptional cars. Idle curiosity, not a buyer or have a clue what it's worth, pretty cool car.
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