Sheets Found Under Front Seats
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From: Leesburg, VA
Car: 1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8L V6
Transmission: 700R4
Sheets Found Under Front Seats
I found these two sheets under my front two seats. I attached a picture of one of them, they are both identical in information. I know some information such as "Master Cyl" then "FX" below it refers to I guess the master cylinder part, "FX" is on the cylinder. Oh well I really don't know what these sheets are. If someone could tell me what they are it would be appreciated.
Congratulations, you found 2 of your build sheets (assuming they are both for your vin #). They contain basic information that was used on the assembly line to build your car. Keep them in good shape, they are a piece of original documentation on your car. Pic of the other one???
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From: Leesburg, VA
Car: 1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8L V6
Transmission: 700R4
Well while I was taking them out I ripped them but I have since put them on paper and taped them carefully back together. I could photocopy them and have a little better copy. Both sheets are exactly the same and they do have my VIN number. I wonder how I can figure from the sheets where the delivery location CUSH is?
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From: Leesburg, VA
Car: 1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8L V6
Transmission: 700R4
I would assume everyone had the build sheets under their seats unless someone else removed them, but I guess that's not always the case.
They were supposed to be thrown out. Most items like that were. A friend of mine went down the assembly line with his '92 heritage package 1LE and collected every piece of documentation that came with the car as it was being built (as well as tons of pictures of the assembly). He had a notebook full of stuff, it was amazing. A lot of the stuff was just cryptic codes that only the workers would understand, but a lot of it was very informative. The documentation all went with the car when he sold it to make room for his Hurst/Firebird, but I do have a pic from a show where he has the sheet that was attached to the hood during assembly sitting on his drivers seat. Wish I would have thought to talk him out of photocopies of everything when I had a chance, but who knew.
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From: Leesburg, VA
Car: 1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8L V6
Transmission: 700R4
Scott, what you can't see on the sheet in fine print is such things as, Axles, Tires, Rear Co-Arm, RR Tie Rod, Combo Valve, Frt Struts, L/S RR Spring, etc. I didn't exactly scan it or it would be better, I just took a snapshot of it with a webcam.
What year is that for. My father has an 82 Z and I have the 87 IROC, and the build sheets are the same style and layout. I haven't seen one like that. I just assumed they would use the same layout for the entire generation.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
88
I guess if I looked at his sig, I would have seen that. Thanks
Do all 88 build sheets look like this? Or do some still look like mine?
http://www.users.qwest.net/~smoyer/i...buildsheet.jpg
Do all 88 build sheets look like this? Or do some still look like mine?
http://www.users.qwest.net/~smoyer/i...buildsheet.jpg
hehehe you're going to feel like an idiot but delivery location CUSH is short for CUSHION... as in where to leave the sheet. Most later cars have a build sheet like this betwen the springs and the cushion on each seat, they're basically a laundry list for the people assembling the interior. They're rather useless. The format varies by year, the one out of my 83 told a lot more info then the one I got out of an 88 camaro. Between the facts that theyre usually in bad shape because of the springs cutting thru the paper, and the fact that they're a bitch to get out and that if you have the rpo's they're completely redundant, I'd say they aren't even worth messing with.
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From: Culleoka, Tn
Car: 85 iroc,96 z28,96 Ram 2500,69RR
Engine: 383 with AFR heads.
Transmission: richmond 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 1991 w/1LE.auburn pro series.2.73's
actually the sheets are a wealth of info if you are looking for correctness-when they fabbed up your car all the #'s and codes seen there corresponded to a tag\bar code that was affixed to the part meant for your car. color codes assigned to the rubber mounts and bushings also matched the codes molded into the rubber on the original mount. have you ever replaced a trans. or motor mount (a gm one) and see that it had several colors molded into the insulator, blue,green, orange, etc? thats so the pick and choose was a simple thing on the assy line. same with colors applied in strange places on a component-control arms,tie rod ends, all classed the same way. if you found the other sheet it would really break it down further to inst. cluster, pulleys, cables,ecm,you get the picture. all tagged and ready to slap on as only chevy could do.
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From: Leesburg, VA
Car: 1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8L V6
Transmission: 700R4
Both sheets I found were the exact same. If there was another sheet somewhere it's most likely gone. I've been through my car everywhere besides under the carpet in the car. I am lucky to have found what I did I guess.
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From: Culleoka, Tn
Car: 85 iroc,96 z28,96 Ram 2500,69RR
Engine: 383 with AFR heads.
Transmission: richmond 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 1991 w/1LE.auburn pro series.2.73's
found mine under the carpet on the package tray behind the back seat.
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From: Leesburg, VA
Car: 1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8L V6
Transmission: 700R4
I guess it just depends on where the workers wanted to stick them. Although I wonder why they stick them in these places when most people wouldn't find them unless they were looking for them.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I guess it just depends on where the workers wanted to stick them. Although I wonder why they stick them in these places when most people wouldn't find them unless they were looking for them.
They probablly stuff them in odd places because GM did not want the extra expense of having to take out the extra garbage. Rather than fill up bins with useless paper products they stuff them in the cars in strange places to dispose of them.
thats my thought on that.
Its not like these cars would roll down the line and a worker thinks, gee this one will be a collectors item some day and I hope he finds all this information stuffed into his seat. The workers would watch thousands upon thousands of cars in the time they worked there. It was just a nother car to them.
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From: Culleoka, Tn
Car: 85 iroc,96 z28,96 Ram 2500,69RR
Engine: 383 with AFR heads.
Transmission: richmond 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 1991 w/1LE.auburn pro series.2.73's
yes i think its just luck. they end up somewhere in the car as an accident or as an accepted practice on the line. it isnt as if gm had a procedure detailing the placement of the sheets to train workers on. trash or hidden was the easiest way to deal with em. my 2 cents-thats why in mopar world the sheet found in your car may not even be the one for your car.
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