I found a 86 350 L98!!!!!!!
I found a 86 350 L98!!!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6173
can't beleve it, I found it the only L98 1996 IROC!!!!
can't beleve it, I found it the only L98 1996 IROC!!!!
Something doesn't look right in that photo - like it's stretched or something.
Anyway, I'm shocked that there's been 11 bids and it's up to $10,000 - I think the low-mile thirdgens are starting to go up in price.
Anyway, I'm shocked that there's been 11 bids and it's up to $10,000 - I think the low-mile thirdgens are starting to go up in price.
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Its also the ONLY '86 with ABS as well.
Don't beleive everything you hear. 90% of the Camaros and Firebirds for sale have a "350" because its the most cliche selling point and too many people are too stupid and naive to know otherwise.
A good portion of those are also "freshley rebuilt"
Don't beleive everything you hear. 90% of the Camaros and Firebirds for sale have a "350" because its the most cliche selling point and too many people are too stupid and naive to know otherwise.
A good portion of those are also "freshley rebuilt"
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Re: I found a 86 350 L98!!!!!!!
Originally posted by BikertrashDude
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6173
can't beleve it, I found it the only L98 1996 IROC!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6173
can't beleve it, I found it the only L98 1996 IROC!!!!
If ever there was a
auction, this one is it. Not only that, but the high bidder will either back out once he finds out the truth, OR, he'll go ahead and buy it and be disappointed since it's a "measly" 305, and he'll abuse the car to death since it won't be rare in his opinion. So.. wave goodbye to this IROC, possibly. Last edited by kizz; Feb 23, 2003 at 01:22 PM.
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From: Washington state
Car: 87 Irocz, 95 Z28, 71 Z28 /RS
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this is what I just got back from the SELLER when I emailed him asking for the Vin Number
Dear Sir/ Madam
Please call Dan @ (810) 459-7779
Thanks
David
I emailed him back stating that I dont have Long Distance & that I Just want to make sure the car is what it suppost to be (didnt tell him I knew that there were only 50 86 Camaros made with the 350 & None that we know of were sold) & I wanted to run a carfax on it.
Lets see what happens with that one.
Looks like this guy is just a middle man though
Dear Sir/ Madam
Please call Dan @ (810) 459-7779
Thanks
David
I emailed him back stating that I dont have Long Distance & that I Just want to make sure the car is what it suppost to be (didnt tell him I knew that there were only 50 86 Camaros made with the 350 & None that we know of were sold) & I wanted to run a carfax on it.
Lets see what happens with that one.
Looks like this guy is just a middle man though
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Heh, sounds like you got a better reply than I did. Basically I told him there were errors and omissions in the auction that were misleading and needed to be fixed, and I told him what they were, etc. Seems like he's more interested in the fast bucks and being cocky than being honest and truthful, because here's what I got back:
"From: dmlawn@juno.com
Dear Sir,
No one has a gun to your back to purchase this vehicle. I am selling this
vehicle for someone else. His direct # (810) 459-7779. Please call Dan
and he can answer all your questions. The reserve is $15,000.00, if you
do not have that kind of money do not even bother to waste his or mine
time !!! and if you do not like that answer BUZZ OFF !!!"
"From: dmlawn@juno.com
Dear Sir,
No one has a gun to your back to purchase this vehicle. I am selling this
vehicle for someone else. His direct # (810) 459-7779. Please call Dan
and he can answer all your questions. The reserve is $15,000.00, if you
do not have that kind of money do not even bother to waste his or mine
time !!! and if you do not like that answer BUZZ OFF !!!"
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In case that retard didn't notice, but under the box that has all that "misleading" info, it says:
I think I would buy that car, then SUE!!!
Seller dmlawn assumes full responsibility for the content of this listing and the item offered.
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i think we should all bid on it get it to like $50,000 and then leave him negative feedback haha he'll be stuck with the seller fees
seriously though, the decals on the doors are on the back of the door, should be on the front. we all know it's not a 5.7... who is this guy trying to fool.
seriously though, the decals on the doors are on the back of the door, should be on the front. we all know it's not a 5.7... who is this guy trying to fool.
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The door stickers being in the wrong place was mentioned. Any1 else notice the 88-90 IROC stripes?! 

On Feb-23-03 at 12:09:47 PST, seller added the following information:
If you have any question please call Dan (810) 459-7779. Ask all the question you want before bidding. I am selling this car through my ebay account for Dan. All the information listed was given to me through him. DO NOT EMAIL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS !!!!
If you have any question please call Dan (810) 459-7779. Ask all the question you want before bidding. I am selling this car through my ebay account for Dan. All the information listed was given to me through him. DO NOT EMAIL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS !!!!
Ya think he's a little upset with email's?
BTW, how many '86 IROC's came with a "sunroof" ?
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I havent but I did get another email from him.
Dear Madam,
I do not have the Vin # I am selling for another person. Please contact
him directly concerning this (810) 459-7779
Thanks
David
Dear Madam,
I do not have the Vin # I am selling for another person. Please contact
him directly concerning this (810) 459-7779
Thanks
David
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Originally posted by 84 Challenge
How about e-mailing Dan back just for the hell of it?
How about e-mailing Dan back just for the hell of it?
You guys are hilarious! Someone has a third gen Camaro on ebay and the description isn't as accurate as it could be, so some of you immediately think the person is trying to rip somebody off? Perhaps, in contrast to several members here, this guy has a life outside of the third gen world.
As far as the "86 350" issue goes, I don't get the impression that he wants people to believe that it is one of the 50 built in '86 for press evaluation and testing. You are the ones inferring that from what he has written. In fact, it only mentions "5.7" once in the description, it's not even in the title; yet he must be trying to deceive someone? Cut this guy some slack people.
As far as the "86 350" issue goes, I don't get the impression that he wants people to believe that it is one of the 50 built in '86 for press evaluation and testing. You are the ones inferring that from what he has written. In fact, it only mentions "5.7" once in the description, it's not even in the title; yet he must be trying to deceive someone? Cut this guy some slack people.
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Originally posted by Matt427
You guys are hilarious! Someone has a third gen Camaro on ebay and the description isn't as accurate as it could be, so some of you immediately think the person is trying to rip somebody off? Perhaps, in contrast to several members here, this guy has a life outside of the third gen world.
As far as the "86 350" issue goes, I don't get the impression that he wants people to believe that it is one of the 50 built in '86 for press evaluation and testing. You are the ones inferring that from what he has written. In fact, it only mentions "5.7" once in the description, it's not even in the title; yet he must be trying to deceive someone? Cut this guy some slack people.
You guys are hilarious! Someone has a third gen Camaro on ebay and the description isn't as accurate as it could be, so some of you immediately think the person is trying to rip somebody off? Perhaps, in contrast to several members here, this guy has a life outside of the third gen world.
As far as the "86 350" issue goes, I don't get the impression that he wants people to believe that it is one of the 50 built in '86 for press evaluation and testing. You are the ones inferring that from what he has written. In fact, it only mentions "5.7" once in the description, it's not even in the title; yet he must be trying to deceive someone? Cut this guy some slack people.
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Originally posted by 84 Challenge
I meant David. Sorry!
I meant David. Sorry!
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someone should go through & write the bidders & tell them that the car is not as its being sold as. lol
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Not everyone is as Fbody smarty pants like everyone here
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Originally posted by GMTech
Your right, thats why its the SELLERS JOB to make sure that the description is 100% accurate. If the seller does not have a clue about the car, he needs to post that. Ebay puts on the auction that: "Seller dmlawn assumes full responsibility for the content of this listing and the item offered." That means that what you present the car as, damn well better be what the buyer gets. Otherwise, its FRAUD. Take it lightly if you want, but people get ripped off every day by "innocent" mistakes. And I'm sure your tune will change when one day you buy something that you don't know a whole lot about and are trusting the product description to guidance.
Your right, thats why its the SELLERS JOB to make sure that the description is 100% accurate. If the seller does not have a clue about the car, he needs to post that. Ebay puts on the auction that: "Seller dmlawn assumes full responsibility for the content of this listing and the item offered." That means that what you present the car as, damn well better be what the buyer gets. Otherwise, its FRAUD. Take it lightly if you want, but people get ripped off every day by "innocent" mistakes. And I'm sure your tune will change when one day you buy something that you don't know a whole lot about and are trusting the product description to guidance.
On that note, I trust nothing that I know nothing about on Ebay. "Most" of the people on there are some type of scam artists.
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Absolutely it is fraud. That car is totally misrepresented. Unfortunately the sucker that buys it won't have the money to pay for a lawyer to sue the seller.
If they are unable or unwilling to provide the VIN then stay away.
I personally am surprised that the bid has gotten anywhere near the reserve.
If they are unable or unwilling to provide the VIN then stay away.
I personally am surprised that the bid has gotten anywhere near the reserve.
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Ok after I wrote him explaining why this car could not be a 86 this is what I got back. Oh by the way the car was taken off of ebay.
Dear Miss,
I appreciate your concern for my well being. However, if you call the
owner of the vehicle @ (810) 459-7779. He will state that this was a
"PILOT" vehicle for GM. I you do not know what a "Pilot" vehicle is a
vehicle for strickly GM executive. Basically if you have the money you
can do whatever you want to this from the FACTORY !!! by being a GM
executive. He is the son of a GM executive. This vehicle does have
everything it states. And I am very sorry that you know everything about
1986 Iroc Z but this is that fact of the matter. I do not want to burst
your knowledge of 1986 Iroc but I just did. Beside the vehicle did not
sell so you just wasted alot of your time as well as mine. Call Dan
@(810) 459-7779 and shed all the knowledge you want with him about the
1986 Iroc Z. Because Baby !!! I do not give a crap about what you know so
go bug someone else!!!
See Ya
Dear Miss,
I appreciate your concern for my well being. However, if you call the
owner of the vehicle @ (810) 459-7779. He will state that this was a
"PILOT" vehicle for GM. I you do not know what a "Pilot" vehicle is a
vehicle for strickly GM executive. Basically if you have the money you
can do whatever you want to this from the FACTORY !!! by being a GM
executive. He is the son of a GM executive. This vehicle does have
everything it states. And I am very sorry that you know everything about
1986 Iroc Z but this is that fact of the matter. I do not want to burst
your knowledge of 1986 Iroc but I just did. Beside the vehicle did not
sell so you just wasted alot of your time as well as mine. Call Dan
@(810) 459-7779 and shed all the knowledge you want with him about the
1986 Iroc Z. Because Baby !!! I do not give a crap about what you know so
go bug someone else!!!
See Ya
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You too? That's amazing.
Anyway, so what they were saying is that this particular vehicle is a "pilot" car to which any tom, dick, or harry can do to it whatever they want to, and it'll still be "factory"?.............
That is too too funny.
That must explain why I have the only 350 engined car with a 5-speed in existance. lol j/k.
Anyway, so what they were saying is that this particular vehicle is a "pilot" car to which any tom, dick, or harry can do to it whatever they want to, and it'll still be "factory"?.............
That is too too funny.
That must explain why I have the only 350 engined car with a 5-speed in existance. lol j/k. Originally posted by GMTech
Your right, thats why its the SELLERS JOB to make sure that the description is 100% accurate. If the seller does not have a clue about the car, he needs to post that. Ebay puts on the auction that: "Seller dmlawn assumes full responsibility for the content of this listing and the item offered." That means that what you present the car as, damn well better be what the buyer gets. Otherwise, its FRAUD. Take it lightly if you want, but people get ripped off every day by "innocent" mistakes. And I'm sure your tune will change when one day you buy something that you don't know a whole lot about and are trusting the product description to guidance.
Your right, thats why its the SELLERS JOB to make sure that the description is 100% accurate. If the seller does not have a clue about the car, he needs to post that. Ebay puts on the auction that: "Seller dmlawn assumes full responsibility for the content of this listing and the item offered." That means that what you present the car as, damn well better be what the buyer gets. Otherwise, its FRAUD. Take it lightly if you want, but people get ripped off every day by "innocent" mistakes. And I'm sure your tune will change when one day you buy something that you don't know a whole lot about and are trusting the product description to guidance.
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HA!! losers, every1 knows I have the only 86 350 sold to the public, i had a friend that had a step dad and his step dad was the grand child of zora arkus duntov, i could have gotten a mako shark vette or nehting else i wanted but i opted for the only 86 350 and i got it with a state of the art non world class t5 5spd transmission....
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Car: '84 Trans Am Recaro Edition
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Nobody knows anything about the car and nobody talked with the guy who sells the car.If you're really curious call the guy and get all the info you need.It could be an engine swap, what they say might be true or maybe it's fake there are lot's of possiblities.I don't understand this reaction really.I mean you're sending someone an e-mail full of info and he doesn't even care.What's the point?This happens almost once a week and you're getting same kind of replys from everyone.
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See what GMTech was talking about?! Stuff like that is complete BS that no1 should have to put up with.
Why don't you E-Mail back and ask him, if the car is what he says it is then why does this stock/factory car have the IROC-Z stickers at the back of the door and 88-90 IROC stripes?? Its great how this car has T-Tops and A/C also, especially when the test cars did not have either.
Why don't you E-Mail back and ask him, if the car is what he says it is then why does this stock/factory car have the IROC-Z stickers at the back of the door and 88-90 IROC stripes?? Its great how this car has T-Tops and A/C also, especially when the test cars did not have either.
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that car has Air conditioning. The original 50 cars did not have the compressor for the ac. They did have the the AC heater box though. It's also a t-top car, werent the 50 prototypes hard tops?
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