My 4th gen dash swap
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My 4th gen dash swap
ok im working on my 4th gen dash swap and everything is in the car but i am having wiring issues with the headlight switch.
the problem is the the interior lights do not turn on, everything else works fine.
got them to work, it was a grounding issue
the problem is the the interior lights do not turn on, everything else works fine.
got them to work, it was a grounding issue
Last edited by ShMaCk2004; Dec 29, 2009 at 09:26 PM.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
if it helps any the dash is out of a 95 firebird and the car its going into is a 87 camaro
i really need help with this quick, any wiring pinouts or just tellimg me what wires to hook up for the interior lights will work.
i really need help with this quick, any wiring pinouts or just tellimg me what wires to hook up for the interior lights will work.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
fix for what?
that gap was a peice missing from the console. i found one and put it on. I'll post pics later.
still need a 93-96 firebird dash pad tho
or just look at my cardomain http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2936729[
that gap was a peice missing from the console. i found one and put it on. I'll post pics later.
still need a 93-96 firebird dash pad tho
or just look at my cardomain http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2936729[
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
i'm doing this swap soon. i'm wondering if you could give me a schematic on the light switch and dimmer. this is the only function that i need to make work as i'm using autometer gauges, and NO HVAC system.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Orange to orange
red to red
yellow to yellow
brown to brown
the brown also needs to go to your dimmer switch input and the output from that goes to the grey wires for your dash lights and also the grey lead for the headlight switch
DIMMER SWITCH
Outer Wires
Black - ground
White - Dome light
Inner Wires
use one for input and the other for output
Wire Funtions
white is for the dome lights
grey is dash lights
yellow to headlights
brown is your parking lights
the orange and red are hot at all times
all black are ground
CHECK ALL OF YOUR GROUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if something isn't clear tell me.
what dash are you using?
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
Diggin' that! I didn't know that was possible. Looks great! I would love to do this someday. Thanks for the info.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
took the air bag out too
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
very nice. thanks for taking the time to run that down for me. i'm using a 98-02 'bird dash and console. i'm going to pickup the dash today, and hopefully get it in the car sometime next week.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
cool post up some pics when its done
if you need more help let me know
if you need more help let me know
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
when you were putting the dash in, did you have to trim anything off the car, or off the dash for it to fit flush? or just kinda hold it in place while you sinched down the fasteners? mines not really sitting very flush against the firewall.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
it looks great, im in the middle of this as well do you have the pinout for the gauges?? and do you know if i can just run them off the stock sensors? like oil press sensor, water temp, t56 speed and fuel sending unit which im sure i will need a resistor for?? i have a 02 trans am gauges and dash and its going in a 89 trans am carbd and t56
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
it looks great, im in the middle of this as well do you have the pinout for the gauges?? and do you know if i can just run them off the stock sensors? like oil press sensor, water temp, t56 speed and fuel sending unit which im sure i will need a resistor for?? i have a 02 trans am gauges and dash and its going in a 89 trans am carbd and t56
I used these pinouts
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
Finally got around to posting final pics (for now)
still need a dash pad
93-96 firebird dash pad if anyones got 1
i have a temp on there now that kinda sticks up a lil bit but its better than a hole.
also the shifter boot is on now as well
still need a dash pad
93-96 firebird dash pad if anyones got 1i have a temp on there now that kinda sticks up a lil bit but its better than a hole.
also the shifter boot is on now as well
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
thanks for the info and your dash turned out great. Good job.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
hopefully you can help me out. i'd like to embark on this swap, but don't know if i will run into problems since my engine is only a 305 4bbl. hope ya can help me out
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap
I really don't see how what engine you have will make much difference at all. The 305 4bbl is what my car had in it from the factory but that was replaced with a 350 a long time ago. Now im moving to an LS1 so let the re-wiring begin
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
its pretty strait forward.
HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Orange to orange
red to red
yellow to yellow
brown to brown
the brown also needs to go to your dimmer switch input and the output from that goes to the grey wires for your dash lights and also the grey lead for the headlight switch
DIMMER SWITCH
Outer Wires
Black - ground
White - Dome light
Inner Wires
use one for input and the other for output
Wire Funtions
white is for the dome lights
grey is dash lights
yellow to headlights
brown is your parking lights
the orange and red are hot at all times
all black are ground
CHECK ALL OF YOUR GROUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if something isn't clear tell me.
what dash are you using?
HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Orange to orange
red to red
yellow to yellow
brown to brown
the brown also needs to go to your dimmer switch input and the output from that goes to the grey wires for your dash lights and also the grey lead for the headlight switch
DIMMER SWITCH
Outer Wires
Black - ground
White - Dome light
Inner Wires
use one for input and the other for output
Wire Funtions
white is for the dome lights
grey is dash lights
yellow to headlights
brown is your parking lights
the orange and red are hot at all times
all black are ground
CHECK ALL OF YOUR GROUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if something isn't clear tell me.
what dash are you using?
Are all of the wires needed to hook up the fourth gen headlight switch found in the connector that plugs into the third gen headlight switch? What exactly does the brown wire for the headlights hook into, besides the other brown wire?
(I know this thread is a little old, but worth a try.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
Can you possibly elaborate on this a little bit for me?
Are all of the wires needed to hook up the fourth gen headlight switch found in the connector that plugs into the third gen headlight switch? What exactly does the brown wire for the headlights hook into, besides the other brown wire?
(I know this thread is a little old, but worth a try.
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Are all of the wires needed to hook up the fourth gen headlight switch found in the connector that plugs into the third gen headlight switch? What exactly does the brown wire for the headlights hook into, besides the other brown wire?
(I know this thread is a little old, but worth a try.
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Re: My 4th gen dash swap, help needed!
i believe there are 2 wires that don't get connected, but i'm not 100% sure (i'm not at my car right now). and if they were it would be from the 4th gen connector. as for the brown wire, no idea what it exactly hooks up to, but hey when it works then who cares in the end. just make sure you got all the right schimatics for your car and the 4th gen, colors of wires tend change sometimes. hope that helped some. if by anychance you come across an extra 4th gen dash pad let me know. i'm out here in hawaii, and the one junkyard i've found has no f-bodies in it worth a ****.
I actually buttoned up the wiring last night and had to make my own tweaks. Your right about some of the wires not being the correct colors, but I made my own chart to reference as I modded my harness and it worked out pretty nicely. I dont remember exactly what I did with the headlight switch, all I know is that I got it working, lol. Except now my high-beams arent working, but I dont really care, as I never use them anyway.
Good luck in the Dashpad hunt.
Re: My 4th gen dash swap
So I'm figuring i will do this swap this winter while my car is off the road. I have a 92 camaro. I found that most all dashes will work but not always with the cluster gauges. There are 93-96 camaro dashes. 97-02 camaro dashes. And 93-02 firebird dashes. If i leave my gauges what dash would be best to use or are they all the same? And if i decide to swap my guages what guages bolt in with what dashes and will still work in my camaro? Basically I'm wondering what will be the easiest way to go
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