Auto Hatch Pull Down
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From: Michigan
Car: 1988 IROC-Z/G92
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45 Eaton Truetrac
Auto Hatch Pull Down
Despite all the wiring diagrams, and all the parts I grab from the junkyard, I can't get this dang thing to work. Any help??
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From: RI
Car: 1984 Camaro Berlinetta
Engine: LT1
Transmission: T56 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.11 LS1 Rear End
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
I don't know what's wrong with your current unit,.... I'd start by checking the PPD Fuse in the fuse-box and the Ground wire first.
If all else fails for you; I've got a fully functional Pull down unit available. Just send me a PM if you need the details.
If all else fails for you; I've got a fully functional Pull down unit available. Just send me a PM if you need the details.
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From: stallings,n.c.
Car: 1989 camaro rs convertable
Engine: 305 tbi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 7.5"3.42 gears forth gen 2000 camar
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From: Hacienda Heights, CA
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Here is a link to the Tech Article I wrote over a decade ago on repairing these pull-down units. First two pages cover the 86-87, next wto pages covers the 88-91.
https://www.thirdgen.org/tech/hatchpulldown.pdf
Yes I still make and stock the parts to repair these pull-down units. Good luck with the repairs.
Lon
https://www.thirdgen.org/tech/hatchpulldown.pdf
Yes I still make and stock the parts to repair these pull-down units. Good luck with the repairs.
Lon
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From: Michigan
Car: 1988 IROC-Z/G92
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: BW 3.45 Eaton Truetrac
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Here is a link to the Tech Article I wrote over a decade ago on repairing these pull-down units. First two pages cover the 86-87, next wto pages covers the 88-91.
https://www.thirdgen.org/tech/hatchpulldown.pdf
Yes I still make and stock the parts to repair these pull-down units. Good luck with the repairs.
Lon
https://www.thirdgen.org/tech/hatchpulldown.pdf
Yes I still make and stock the parts to repair these pull-down units. Good luck with the repairs.
Lon
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From: Menifee, CA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z Camaro, T-Tops
Engine: L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: GH3 2.77 POSI
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Hey Lon,
I just read your complete tech article on hatch pull down mechanism. I replaced some worn out shocks and coincidentally the hatch will not latch now and the motor stuck on. I disconnected the battery to get it to stop. When rear cover was removed, I had white plastic pieces laying in the trunk, noticed the plastic housing was cracked also. Thanks for the article and I'll check out your link and order a kit.
I just read your complete tech article on hatch pull down mechanism. I replaced some worn out shocks and coincidentally the hatch will not latch now and the motor stuck on. I disconnected the battery to get it to stop. When rear cover was removed, I had white plastic pieces laying in the trunk, noticed the plastic housing was cracked also. Thanks for the article and I'll check out your link and order a kit.
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From: Hacienda Heights, CA
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Hey Lon,
I just read your complete tech article on hatch pull down mechanism. I replaced some worn out shocks and coincidentally the hatch will not latch now and the motor stuck on. I disconnected the battery to get it to stop. When rear cover was removed, I had white plastic pieces laying in the trunk, noticed the plastic housing was cracked also. Thanks for the article and I'll check out your link and order a kit.
I just read your complete tech article on hatch pull down mechanism. I replaced some worn out shocks and coincidentally the hatch will not latch now and the motor stuck on. I disconnected the battery to get it to stop. When rear cover was removed, I had white plastic pieces laying in the trunk, noticed the plastic housing was cracked also. Thanks for the article and I'll check out your link and order a kit.
The "continues to run" issue is a bad gear nut.
Lon
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From: Menifee, CA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z Camaro, T-Tops
Engine: L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: GH3 2.77 POSI
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Is that 204040 kit the correct one for an 89 Iroc Camaro? I trust you would know, it just looks a little different than the one in the car now. Just checking before I spend $100. Thanks
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From: Hacienda Heights, CA
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Lon
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From: Menifee, CA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z Camaro, T-Tops
Engine: L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: GH3 2.77 POSI
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Motor is fine, I'll order it right now. Looks like you're in LA, I'm in Temecula area, shouldn't take long to get it.
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From: Menifee, CA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z Camaro, T-Tops
Engine: L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: GH3 2.77 POSI
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Thanks Lon, received my kit today, thanks for the quick shipping, gonna get at it.
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From: Menifee, CA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z Camaro, T-Tops
Engine: L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: GH3 2.77 POSI
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Hey Lon, That's a nice kit for the rear pull down unit. Followed the tech sheet, and everything went perfectly, works like a champ! Can I align the rear hatch by positioning the whole assembly? The right side of the rear spoiler is sticking out about 1/4 inch. May have been that way, wondering if there's a remedy, Thanks.
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From: British columbia, Canada
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 5.0L V8
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
step 1: hit motor with hammer.
step 2: lithium grease anything that moves
step 3: try to see if it works now
step 2: lithium grease anything that moves
step 3: try to see if it works now
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
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From: British columbia, Canada
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 5.0L V8
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
you hit it the same way you hit the starter, it jumps everything into place. I obviously don't mean wail on the thing lol
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Well, you never know how someone may take your advice on here. Dude may break out a 5 lb sledge and go to town. Pecking on the motor with the handle of a large screwdriver may be better.
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
I totally understood where you were going. But that doesn't mean someone reading this next month,year,decade will. I was just clearing it up a little.
The motor is mounted by that housing, so any force applied to it will be put on the housing, even amplified by the leverage of the distance of the motor from the mount.
The motor is mounted by that housing, so any force applied to it will be put on the housing, even amplified by the leverage of the distance of the motor from the mount.
Last edited by Joe Tag; Sep 17, 2013 at 06:53 AM.
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From: Menifee, CA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z Camaro, T-Tops
Engine: L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: GH3 2.77 POSI
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
Talk with Lon@ Top Down Solutions. I just rebuilt my unit, works perfectly, without a hammer involved
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
"You shouldn't own a car if you lack common sense."
Have you read some of the posts and questions by people on here? There is no entrance exam to buying a car. People do stupid things, not everyone is mechanically inclined. They may have worn out gears, bad track guides,and hit it with a hammer as you suggested. It doesn't work so they hit it harder. Now a simple fix turns into a complete replacement.
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From: Austin, Texas
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 5.0l V8 TBI
Transmission: 700 R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Auto Hatch Pull Down
I'm just posting to say "hit it with a hammer" worked for me. I installed new guides for my hatch today, and when I tested it, the hatch lowered, and went up, but got stuck once up. I read this thread, and tapped the motor with the handle of a screwdriver. Now it works great!
Thanks!
Thanks!
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