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Old Mar 18, 2020 | 08:19 AM
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85 Trans Am inner window sweep install

Hey guys,

I'm having a bit of trouble installing my new window sweeps. First of all, the old ones were held on by a single heavy duty staple, and were pressed onto the inner window molding. the pegs that hook into the window sweep fabric don't seem to have a hole in them for a legit fastener, and all my pegs seem to be broken (see pics).

Also, how do the window moldings attach to the door itself? I see some pressed on washer-type fasteners, but don't see how these interface with the inner part of the door.

Am i doing something wrong, or are these really just held in by the pegs, and I need new moldings?


retention peg is snapped off on one side


how do these attach to the door?
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Old Mar 18, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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Re: 85 Trans Am inner window sweep install

Originally the peg was longer. The weatherstrip was laid over the pegs, then a machine melted the end of the pegs to peen them over like a rivet. That was a one time deal, you've gotta get creative with aftermarket parts since GM never expected the weatherstrip to be serviced.
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Old Mar 18, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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Re: 85 Trans Am inner window sweep install

Well, that's really helpful, thanks GM! Thank you for the info, I'll probably do some sort of rivet or short fastener and adhesive to install the sweep. As for the installation of the trim piece to the door itself, does it just clip on, or is it fastened in some way?
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Old Mar 18, 2020 | 05:16 PM
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Technically, the top trim on the door panel is a permanent part of the door panel also. There are a few tabs to locate the cardboard in the trim, then again you've got a series of plastic pins that go thru holes in the cardboard, then tin speed nuts were pushed/threaded onto the pins. The keepers aren't really intended to be removed. The pins like to twist off (break) instead of letting the nuts spin off.

What usually happens, is people that don't know any better try to remove the upper trim without removing the rest of the panel, or the opposite. When the door panel isn't removed as an assembly, the pins tend to get broken, the hooks that clip onto the top of the door are broken, and the holes in the cardboard get torn out. When that happens the trim really needs to be replaced, and the cardboard needs to be repaired.

When the top of the holes are ripped out, you'll need to patch the board. On my project car I trimmed the top of the door card across the top of all the ripped out holes, and glued a strip of masonite to the board. A bit of glass cloth after to reinforce, and the door panel is ready to go.

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Old Mar 18, 2020 | 08:58 PM
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Re: 85 Trans Am inner window sweep install

I definitely didn't take the panel and trim off as an assembly, so the holes are ripped. I'll try the repair you did, looks like it came out good. Thanks for the tips
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