Im trying to order replacement carpets and the color choices dont seem to match what i think i should be ordering. I wanted to double check with all of you before hitting submit on my order. I have silver essex mass backing in my cart. I think the correct factory color was light grey but thats not a choice. Is silver what i want?

 

If you go by their year specific colors on their website, it's Dove Gray. In their picture, it definitely looks darker than what you have though. Silver was not a factory correct color in their charts.

This place will send you samples for $1 each.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233581609706?var=534162985276

 

Thank you! I’ll order Dove grey. Mine is obviously faded/aged i just didn’t want to get carpet too dark. Also just wanted to place the order with other parts.
I really appreciate the input? I’ll post a comparison photo when installed

 

Dove Grey is #877, and it's a Cut Pile color, not an Essex/Ultra Plush color. It's not listed on many vendors' color charts, but it does exist and has to be asked for by contacting the vendor. That said, Dove Grey is the "reproduction" color for Firebird's Medium Dark Grey, and I was under the impression Camaro Grey was a different shade.

The 1991 Camaro brochure calls its interior color, simply, "Gray," which doesn't help, but I wouldn't rush into any orders until you've positively confirmed the color, because the people at ACC are a-holes when it comes "oopsies," even when it's their own mistake.

If you're set on an Essex/Ultra Plush color, then you'll have to get samples and make the call yourself, because one will be close, but none will be accurate. Vendors didn't used to charge for samples, but maybe that's changed. They used to send you as many tiny samples as you requested. The samples are approximately 2"x2" squares.

 

My '87 Camaro had the gray interior and ACC used my original floor mats to make the new contoured version they sell. The color that matches the Camaro gray is the Dove gray.

 

Thanks Scott. Yes i didnt realize the color choices change when you click the essex option. I ordered the grey. That then leads to needing to order ACC essex mats to make things match. Im not sure what to do about mats now. I had wanted to order the Z28 with yellow/gold to match the dash…I think I ordered these from Ricks Camaro for my sons 89. When I went there to customize mats it routs to ecklers and didnt have the choices i wanted. Im open to floor matt suggestions.

Happy New Year all!

 

When you receive your carpet can you share some pics? I am curious as I have the same interior as your 91 Z28 and would like to replace the carpet as well.

I contacted ACC and their customer support about getting Dove Grey in Essex and they claimed that it does not exist. Dove Grey color is only available in cutpile.

 

I will. I was going to order Dove grey then upgraded to essex and noticed that color choice was not available. I will take pictures and post. If i were to do it again i would just get the dove grey so i could get matching floor mats. As of now i ended up ordering dove grey mats so i can do a picture of both for you to compare unfaded color difference.

 

That's exactly what I wanted to do until I saw your post. I really want the essex carpet, but I would also like to replace it with the same color.

Thank you, that would be super helpful in deciding. I requested some samples from ACC but I think comparing the dove gray mats with the grey carpet would be better.

 

thank you all for the comments! I made it back from down south to beat the storm. Here is the update with the last order that arrived.

the carpets adr the essex grey from acc
the light silver matt is the dash matts in silver
and the grey mat on the right is acc dove grey



the essex grey is a yellow brown tone abd the do e grey is more charcoal than i was expecting. I will have to figure out how to exchange the essex for dove grey.

 

these are the mats and the carpet is essex grey

 

Thanks for sharing those pics! Looks like I'll be going with Dove Grey. I got a few Essex carpet samples from ACC, and it looks like medium gray and gray are the ones that look closest to dove gray.

 

Here's a photo of standard Cut Pile Dark Grey floor mats resting on Essex/Ultra Plush Medium Grey passenger carpet.


The Essex/Ultra Plush Medium Grey has a slight greenish hue to it, whereas the Cut Pile Dark Grey has the blueish hue that 3rdgen grey interiors have. But when everything is installed, the floor carpet is largely covered by the seats, floor mats and shadows, so the greenish color difference isn't as noticeable as you'd think. But the Essex/Ultra Plush Grey that someone was asking about is much too light compared to the factory color, and the Essex/Ultra Plush Medium Grey.

The Essex/Ultra Plush (there's a reason for the two different names, but it's the same carpet) is extra thick and very plush, like carpet you might find in a high-end luxury car, or in a home. And the mass backing makes it even thicker. But the standard Cut Pile is nice too, because it's new like the factory carpet used to be, so I don't think it will disappoint anyone.

But ACC doesn't do as nice a job cutting and shaping the Cut Pile as it does on the Essex/Ultra Plush. I've returned two Cut Pile passenger carpets because they were poorly made. The Essex/Ultra Plush was made incorrectly too, with a too-tall tranny hump, but overall, it's much better made than the Cut Pile. And I've seen videos on YT of people installing the Cut Pile, and theirs were cut as poorly as mine were, but I guess the excitement of having new carpet apparently outweighs the poor cuts to most people, but it mattered to me.

I got Dark Grey floor mats because, in Firebirds, at least in 1987, the interior color, Medium Dark Grey, consisted of two different carpet colors. The passenger carpet is Medium Grey (reproduced as Dove Grey), and the cargo carpet is Dark Grey, hence the name Medium Dark Grey. I believe Camaros were just the one color of grey. I suspect most Firebird owners haven't noticed two different colors in their cars, but they are clearly two different colors. The passenger "Dove" Grey has a silvery-blue hue, whereas the cargo Dark Grey is a darker grey with the blue hue, but not the silvery hue.

When I removed my carpet, there was no label on the back of the passenger carpet, but the cargo carpet had a label on the backside: Dark Grey. The cargo carpet was still in excellent condition and not faded, ironically, considering it's beneath a full glass hatch, so I kept it and only replaced the passenger carpet. I'm still not happy about the defective tranny hump in the new carpet, but I made it work, sort of.


Since I wasn't matching the "Dove" Grey passenger carpet, I got the mats to match the cargo Dark Grey. The mats cover most of the floor anyway, so the mats and the cargo carpet will be seen more than the floor carpet. The nicer floor carpet definitely looks plusher and more luxurious, regardless of the slight color difference.

Essex and Ultra Plush are the same carpet. In the mid-2000s, ACC had a competitor called ACS. One brand called it Essex, and the other brand called it Ultra Plush. ACS was in Carpet Town USA, Dalton, GA, where the carpet for both brands was probably made, because it's exactly the same carpet and colors. But ACS wasn't around long because ACC bought them out. That's why some vendors might call it Essex, and other vendors might call it Ultra Plush.

I got some floor mats (not those pictured above) from ACS, but they were shaped all wrong. So I sent them pictures of my originals, and they got a set of originals and made them correctly and sent me a new pair. I don't know when Scott sent his to ACC for duplication, but ACS did mine in 2005-ish, before being bought out by ACC.