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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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need tranny advice for my swap

hello everyone im continuing my swa into my 88 camaro. i started with a 99 5.3 truck motor and slowly converted it to ls1 specs, except ls6 intake cam yada yada yada
im in the market for a tranny. im interested in the 4l60e., im going to save up and buy a decently built one . now my questions

do i need a specific year, or model.?
how built do i need to go, it will see the track a couple times but 99percent using dot street tires and mainly its gonna be a street car.
any help with , making sure i purchase the right tranny would be great. thanks alot...
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Car: 1998 Trans/Am, 1989 RS Camaro
Engine: LS1, LQ9 6.0
Transmission: 4L60E, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.73, 2.73
Re: need tranny advice for my swap

4l80e if u havent bought a 4l60.. A lot less $ and will last a lot longer. I have read of people doin a clutch upgrade and throwin it in.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

what does the 4l80e need to install in my camaro.? i was told to stick with the 4l60e cause its what was on the motor when i purcharsed it. the computers and such would work? ball park what would a person pay for a 4l80e with a head snappin shift in it?
thanks again
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Car: 1998 Trans/Am, 1989 RS Camaro
Engine: LS1, LQ9 6.0
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

you can get a good used 4l80 for around 300. You will have to do some reading but i think you will need a flywheel spacer (cheap) a rebuild kit with some good clutches and a person to put it in. Your ecu will work fine.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Car: 88 IROCZ
Engine: 5.3 Gen IV
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

Its not as simple as bolting it in and being on your way. The 4l80e is much larger than a 4l60e and will require some bell housing trimming and possibly floor man beating. There are also some wires that need tgo be switched around in the connector for the trans. Your PCM will also have to be reflashed for a 4l80e as there are a few different inputs and outputs. If your looking for quick easy and less of a headache then go with a built 4l60e. It will do just fine in your setup. Mine has handled a 10.90 car for many years with no issues.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

ok but any year. or just order one tell them ls1 tail housing???????????????
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

Are 4l80's really that cheap? I thought they were bringing more than the 60's?

I think there are a couple guys running 80's in their cars. Check over on TECH too... The floor pans between a 4th gen and 3rd gen are PRETTY close... I seem to remember some clearancing being necessary either way.

Like quick said...the 60 will do you just fine though.

J.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

Originally Posted by alotquicka
ok but any year. or just order one tell them ls1 tail housing???????????????
As far as the 4l60e you will want one from a 99 up truck(new body style) or and fbody. The newer ones have a 360 degree bell housing. The 4l80e can be used from any year. they did not change anything as far as the trans when they put them behind a LS engine. All they did was add a crank spacer for the flex plate. If you plan on running a tail shaft mounted torque arm then you will need a tail housing from a camaro or TA. If your running some other torque arm setup then the truck tail housing will be fine.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

i will go 4l60e, i have a lsx sphon assembly, so i will have to get a ls1 tailshaft
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

Originally Posted by alotquicka
i will go 4l60e, i have a lsx sphon assembly, so i will have to get a ls1 tailshaft
I think thats the best choice. Just get one thats built with the upgraded "weak" parts and you wont have an issue.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

Originally Posted by Brando5641
you can get a good used 4l80 for around 300. You will have to do some reading but i think you will need a flywheel spacer (cheap) a rebuild kit with some good clutches and a person to put it in. Your ecu will work fine.


there is no such thing as a good $300 trans. maybe working but not good
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

go the 4l60e and just use a kit with reys or borg warners, Zpac for the 3/4, "beast" shell, corvette servo, and wide band, you will be fine... might as well change the EPC solenoid too...
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Re: need tranny advice for my swap

Someone should be slapped with a wet noodle. Good thing 1quickirocz chimed in.
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