Been throwing around the idea of trading somebody on craigslist my motorcycle that i've pretty much lost interest in for their 4th gen Z28 to swap engine and 6 speed tranny. I've found a couple with 400-500hp 383 builds in them and decided that those would be the only way i'd go. Thought it would be easiest to take the drivetrain out of a running/driving car.

What do ya'll think? would i have everything i need or would I still need more?

Thank you in advance and please be nice.

 

Seems like a lot of expense and effort compared to just getting the motor & trans.

 

the 4th gen is just overall better built car than the 3rd gen.
dont see a reason to destroy a perfectly good 4th gen unless its wrecked or totalled.
but its ur cash or, do what u want.

 

I'm only considering the idea. I thought if i got one with a 400-500hp 383 stoker LT1 already built, dynotuned, with wiring harness and accessories and a t56 with an upgraded clutch and complete clutch assembly it would be worth the trade. plus i would have a disc brake rear. maybe part the rest out to boost funds.

Seemed easier and faster to buy an entire running car than buy everthing one thing at a time as the build progresses.

Normally i wouldn't destroy a perfectly good car but the only thing i really like about the 93-97 is the drivetrain.

All input is appreciated. so far i'm thinking this isn't a great idea. I'm tired of the slow LO3 and I wanna build my car right but it's so frustrating not being able to just drop in a powerplant cause the t5 and 10bolt behind it are too weak. A strange/moser/etc 12bolt and a tremec t56 magnum and all the goodies (performance clutch,etc) add up real fast.

 

i would put.more funds into the 69 if i had one, over the 3rd gen..just sayin..

 

save a 3rdgen..sacrifice the 4thgen lol.

 

I would rather have a running car for a swap as you know it runs and if you ever need a part for the swap you know its there on the 4th gen. All I would do is freshen it up and drop it in as you dont want to do it twice

 

i say go for it....

on the flip side. sell the bike and build what you want for your car. in the hotrod world, buying the finished product is cheaper than building it yourself a lot of times...but, in the end, its never exactly what you wanted.

 

The Third Gen just look better.

 

Id kill a 4th get in a heatbeat

Ever notice how many nice rollers pop up for sale on LS1tech? Those were not all washed out projects

 

about 6 months ago, I had a friend offer to sell me his 4th gen, and I told him all I would do is cut it up. I just don't like the look of the 90's era cars.. The 4th gen, the rivera's the Buick SSeI, they all seem to have that stupid round front nose going..

btw he offered me the car again, last week, knowing I just chop it up and he was ok with it. lol. but I have other interests on the go, Gen 2 supercharded 3800 in a chevette for my brother.. well helping him make it fit, It is his project car, then I have a 74 international pickup coming in November, that will get a 2007 and newer, (not sure just yet) frame, suspension, 383 and 6 speed tranny.

 

It comes down to what do you like better?

FWIW, I wouldnt bother for a LT1 swap. LS1 swap, definately

 

I second this statement ,unless there's some sort of emotional attachment to an lt 1, I say go for it man

 

It's kind of interesting what is happening to the 4th gen Camaro. The cars weren't even 10 years old before a lot of them, in fine working order, were being gutted and cannibalized for parts to go into different kind of vehicles. Can you think of any other type of car that had such a fate so quickly? Apparently there's not a lot of love lost on that body style. You won't be the first person to tear up a driver and not the last either.

 

Sad thing is i've had the 92 14 years, it was my first car. I've done a excellent job of keeping up on maintenance and repairs on it but never really done anything to make it the car i always dreamed of. The 69 i've only had for 3years this month and i've already put more funds into it than the 92. It also makes a difference that i'm 14 years older and have developed the skills to work on them myself. I could almost complete the 69 for the value of my bike.

this is kinda what i been thinking, the 4th gen would only be a very satisfying quick fix. not what i really want.

Like i said above. i've never considered an LT1 until this idea. I've been dreaming LS for years. LS7 (427 is my favorite camaro motor. 69 yenko is my dream car) would be my dream but not at $13000.

 

Thanks for all the input. i knew i could count on you all to set me straight. I decided i won't sacrifice a 4th gen cause i don't really want a LT1 and i would rather buy a new tremec t56 magnum and put it behind a 355 with fast EZ EFI or an LS.

THANKS!!!

 

thats cool.
i dont see point in tearing up a good running car to use drivetrain in another car,if anything sell it running and use the funds to fund ur build.
it may not suit you,but to some one else its a bad *** ride

 

trade bike for built 4th gen.
drive 4th gen untill you sell it to use the funds for your 3rdgen.

I have one of each. and like both. 3rdGen body style will always be my Fav.

 

Check out my build thread... that's exactly what I did.

 

If you're starting from scratch don't do an LT1 if you can do an LS. I've noticed a lot of tuners around me want nothing to do with them. And I've had countless ignition issues on my LT1. Also, stock F-Body Lt1s are only two bolt mains, unlike LS motors. Aftermarket support for LS motors is insane too.

 

I would kill a 4th gen ls camaro in a heart beat

 

Until you gotta work on one, under the hood/windshield,and....pull the motor from the bottom etc, granted I like the looks of the 98-02's

 

LMAO!
been pulling/dropping motors from the top with trans attached from top since 2000.
swap opti spark and iginition parts in less than 2hr time.(charged 350$ just for labor,back in the day,did a bunch of em, i had a whole box of opti carcasses.lol)
takes bout hr to do plugs on ls1 cars. really working on these cars anything else becomes cake. 3rd gen engine bay is a free for all. so easy to work on everything. i guess you get spoiled working on a 3rd gen, then going to a 4th gen. i can see how it would b harder.

 

thats because its hard to beat an ls and six speed in a project car.great power and gas mileage plus low rpms on the freeway.plus the forth gens are ugly.

 

Also, the interiors are awful too on 4th gens. They're getting to be cheap enough that it just makes more sense to buy a complete car and gut them. I like the look of the LT1 cars, but man, a 98-2002 Z-28 is not a style that aged well.

 

if you can find a wreaked 1998 up forth gen with the leather seats and the six speed imo you have most of the parts to install the six speed including the pedals and hydrallic clutch parts plus maybe the aluminum driveshaft,wider rear with discs and also the big discs up front.im still looking for a reasonable priced of black leather seats.

 

id say trade the bike for the car bc for one you now it runs and drives good and for two the parts on the car you can sell and still make money. for example I personally don't like the 4th gen dash/center consle but other ppl do. the seat will sell in no time if you don't use them, same with the gas tank and other parts. then the body you can sell to a junk yard or as a roller. imo the even number gens of Camaros are ugly as hell.