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Old 10-27-2013, 10:48 AM
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6.0" connecting rod so the dwell time at tdc is a little higher. Its definitely in cam timing events. The only solution may be a cam change.
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6.0" connecting rod so the dwell time at tdc is a little higher. Its definitely in cam timing events. The only solution may be a cam change.
Either a cam change or lower the static compression by 4/10ths. That drops me back to where I was with the original Vortecs and a XR276HR (10:1 rather than the 10.4:1 I have now). I drove that thing cross country more than once with no detonation trouble.
Thanks for the feedback. This latest build has been a pain in the ***. I hope to sort it out over the winter and be good to go next season.

Looking forward to your new engine build.
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Put a 0.050" head gasket in it.
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Started fixing up the set of Brodix heads going on this engine, one casting was good, the other one however... not so much. It became the victim of a dropped intake valve.



Seats cut out and major damage ground out. Ready for welding.

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Wow. Is it worth it? I suppose working in an engine shop has it's advantages though.
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Well a replacement casting from brodix is about 700$, all im going to have into this one is the cost of seats and guides.
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I was thinking more along the lines of what it would cost for a guy like me to have that head saved. There's a lot of time and skill that's going to go into that head with welding, milling and grinding.
Then again, like I said, working in an engine shop has it's advantages.
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Started pulling the engine out the car last night, should come out tonight.

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haha, Thanks!
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Got the head all welded up.

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Wow amazing build. A lot of great work. I like to see fellow Canuck so well represented. I bought my Camaro this summer and it looks more like your first post! Seeing yours coming together makes want to get after mine!
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Got the head all welded up.
What's the plan from here? Go at it with a die grinder to get the chamber shape? I suppose you might have to mill it first?
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What's the plan from here? Go at it with a die grinder to get the chamber shape? I suppose you might have to mill it first?
Surface it, rough it in with a die grinder, install seats and guides, cut valve job, finish chamber, match cc's, apply boost, run 8's.
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Finished pulling out the engine and trans, sold lots of parts off the current combo. ordering lots of new parts for the new combo. Should have a nearly complete engine by christmas if all works out.

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I also cleaned up and inspected the old engine, everything checked out fine and I gave it some fresh plugs, oil and filter and it's now for sale. $6000.00 OBO

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don't run that money through the wash!
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Surface it, rough it in with a die grinder, install seats and guides, cut valve job, finish chamber, match cc's, apply boost, run 8's.
Nice plan.
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Did you ever take the old combo to the track and get some timeslips?
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Yeah, ran it twice. tko gave me grief with the 60 foot. best it ran was 12.24 @ 116mph with a 1.935 60 foot. not bad for 3700lbs lol
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More and more shiny parts arriving daily.

Ferrea Comp plus stainless intake valves, I am also running Ferrea Super Alloy exhaust valves


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Frost plugs installed, ready to pur some hard blok
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Mixing up the first batch of hardblok
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First side poured and torque plate torqued up. I poured both side this weekend but didnt feel the need to document both sides...
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I also got some specs on the new cam, I had Lil Johns Motorsport Solutions spec the solid roller out for it, He does alot of turbo combo's and his camshafts seem to work quite well. It's a Bullet grind 0.683"/0.683", 261/265 @0.050", 115+4 LSA. Should be pretty nasty.
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So u work at ams?
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Yup, I sure do.
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Christmas came early!!!!

Twin Borg Warner S366's 0.91AR
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Coming along fast man!! The twins look nice!
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Got a link to the blow off valve
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cant wait to see the twins under the hood!!!!!!!!!! nice build man!!
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one of the best builds i have seen in a long time. . . great work man keep it up
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WoW keep up the good work!
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Well... Things took a turn for the awesome yesterday. picked up a set of CFE/BMF 18 degree heads. this thing should make some pretty killer power now...

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Might need a lower profile elbow to clear the hood....
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Should sound pretty badass through dual 4" downpipes dumped under the fenders
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And some shiny bit's to match the new paint.
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that grind was spec'd with the other heads in mind, right? how much is going to be left on the table with it? you going to have another one ground?
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I may, Just for the sake of not blowing another 600$ I may run it this year. Even with the camshaft being a poor match It will be making more then enough power for the block to handle. Next winter I will likely upgrade to a Iron eagle or Little M with a 55MM cam tunnel and 0.937" keyway lifters.
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More parts...

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That's quite the collection you have there.
What became of the Brodix head you were working on?
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I will likely finish fixing them and sell them.
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well, more and more small parts arriving daily. I have a potential buyer on the old engine and if everything works out I will be able to buy the remainder of what I need to finish this thing up.

Ferrea Comp plus intake and Super Alloy exhaust valves.
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Crower hi seat offset solid roller lifters
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2.5lb co2 bottle kit for boost controller
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Aeromotive fuel pump controller
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Strange double adjustable coil overs w/ 175lb hypercoils
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Reid roller tail housing for the glide and MW billet slip yoke
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Tubular k-member
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FAST fuel rails
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awesome
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So I have been flopping back and forth between wet sump and dry sump and I finally came to a decision this weekend... DRYSUMP!

Dan olson aluminum pan with one piece billet rail

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New Barnes 3 stage drysump pump.

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Pan cleared the K-member with zero modification.

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I still love what you're doing here, been a while since I checked this out, you've made alot of progress and it's coming along great! Awesome build!
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Small update... more parts arriving. I intend on stripping the panels back off the car to prep it for paint and take the plasma cutter to the front end to male some room the turbo kit and drysump setup.

Dual transmission coolers because I intend on street driving this thing a lot. And locking trans dipstick.
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2.5gallon meth tank for street driving.
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rebuilt the t&d rockers. Changing the exhaust rockers to match the intake rocker ratio, had to replace one shaft.

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Got the correct brackets for my barnes pump and test fit everything with the k-member...
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can't hide that canadian money!
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This build is going awesome, congrats! But how did you fab the radiator support so you can remove it for ease of engine access? did you just cut and make tabs? If you have covered this already i'm sorry but i read through it pretty quickly in between classes the other day and found myself reading it again today!
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Sold the old engine and got some more parts in.


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Billet 1x cam sync distributor.

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holley 58x crank trigger. Has some slight clearance issues with the drysump scavenge fitting.

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Logged the rod bolts on the rods and honed the small ends for proper pin bore clearance.



Got my 1.6 ratio exhaust rockers and got those installed.

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I really liked that old engine. Any idea what it's going to be installed in? (I'll be cruising Edmonton in June. Might be a good race depending...).
You've got a lot of work in front of you. Any projected completion date?
It all looks like great stuff. Long live the Gen 1 SBC.
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It's goin into a late 70's second gen, out in Nova Scotia. Goal is to make the first local outlaw 8.5 race June 14, but that's being very optimistic.
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Custom pistons are here from Diamond for my new engine! 2618 Material, inboard pin boss design, 0.927" x 2.25" x 0.225" H-13 tool steel pin, Hard anodized.

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strange double adjustable shocks also arrived.

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Last night I did some drysump pan surgery, the crank trigger bracket didnt clear one of my scavenge fittings on the pan, so some surgery was in order.

The clearance issue...
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Took this trashed pan and stole some fittings from it.
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My good pan, before cutting it up...




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Big ole hole cut in the side, revealing the top scavenge line...
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Fitting in place
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Line re-routed, needs some minor fit and finish work and final welding and the pan will be ready for powdercoating.

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All ready for welding.
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This took about 4 hours in total, I was nervous about cutting the pan up, but it worked out quite well.


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