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Oh my god! That's really sad to see
I don't have audio on my computer right now but wow! I feel worse for the car :''''(
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Wow he got lucky to come out alive after that, too bad now there's 1 less third gen.
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Screw the car man! (are you serious??) Hope the kid makes it, he's lucky to be breathing at this point. We dont even know all the details yet? Thats one scary crash!
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how the hell do you survive that...dayum!!
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They said he was ejected, which only makes sense. Looking at the video and the car, it looks like the car spun in mid air and hit the cement pillar just forward of the drivers side rear quarter. That explains why it tore apart. The high rate of speed combined with the car being hit at its weakest point tore it to pieces. He may have even been thrown out as the front was ripped from the cabin.
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this is the one from ohio rite ...the 19 year old kid that was running from police or whatever?
if so ........stupid kid poor car
if so ........stupid kid poor car
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PARTS CAR!!!
I'll take the rear interior plastic pieces, they look okay!
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thank god the bridge was RIGHT there it would of been worst if he had landed into incoming traffic!!
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the kid was okay, there are so many other threads about this, it needs to be compiled into one, he was awake and conscious when the police got to him
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Watch no brake lights. He either did it on purpose or passed out at the wheel for whatever reason. Rumors are he was fresh out of jail.
I can't be sympathetic if the rumors are true and he wasn't having a seizure or something like that, at the wheel. If the kid had medical problems I wish him the best.
Their are stupid people in the world, they do exist and they breed at amazing rates too. And guess what? Their kids being conditioned by the moron turn into one too. So now one idiot turned into 5 little ones. Smaller versions of the same unimpressive moron that grow into it's likeness.
I can't be sympathetic if the rumors are true and he wasn't having a seizure or something like that, at the wheel. If the kid had medical problems I wish him the best.
Their are stupid people in the world, they do exist and they breed at amazing rates too. And guess what? Their kids being conditioned by the moron turn into one too. So now one idiot turned into 5 little ones. Smaller versions of the same unimpressive moron that grow into it's likeness.
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Well guys keep this in mind how many of us have done something like this as far as driving at a high rate of speed or just other stupid stuff behind the wheel? I think as 3rd gen drivers go we ALL have probably done something like this, fortunately most of us say "damn I'm just lucky to be alive" or this or that could have been different and it would have been a disaster. I know I myself have done a lot of stupid stuff behind the wheel and my prime for stupidity was at 19, I would hate that someone would judge me or say they could care less if I lived or died because I was in a crash at 140 MPH (it almost happened to me, I'm no different then this kid just had more luck on my side that day). I think we should all thank our lucky stars that nothing like this ever happened to us and hope he lives through it to learn a valuable lesson and I'm sure he will never do anything like this again (if so then we can let the insults fly)
Also as far as not hitting the brakes if anyone is ever in a situation similar to this please do not hit the brakes (I know it's the first instinct) because the minute you go from pavement to grass which probably had some morning dew on it and hit your brakes you will immediately lose all traction and you will just be along for the ride but if you just take your feet off of the pedals and make very subtle adjustments with the steering wheel you can kind of point it to where you want it to go but at that speed when you lose traction you're not getting it back until you stop. I used to be a dirt track racer so I know just how this works first hand and driving in many MN winters I can tell you that also transfers to street driving.
Also as far as a parts car goes, I have read many restoration thread and I think someone on here can rebuild it any takers
Also as far as not hitting the brakes if anyone is ever in a situation similar to this please do not hit the brakes (I know it's the first instinct) because the minute you go from pavement to grass which probably had some morning dew on it and hit your brakes you will immediately lose all traction and you will just be along for the ride but if you just take your feet off of the pedals and make very subtle adjustments with the steering wheel you can kind of point it to where you want it to go but at that speed when you lose traction you're not getting it back until you stop. I used to be a dirt track racer so I know just how this works first hand and driving in many MN winters I can tell you that also transfers to street driving.
Also as far as a parts car goes, I have read many restoration thread and I think someone on here can rebuild it any takers
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He was not fresh out of jail, however, he was arrested and released just prior to the accident.
http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/local/g...d-before-crash
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While I agree on how to regain control (if you are off the road you've already lost control) obviously he would have slammed them at the last second (as anyone would have) if he was conscious, or didn't WANT to wreck.
Maybe you are right, he wasn't emo raging at the wheel he was training for dirt track in Monday morning traffic and it went wrong. That's why he didn't brake.
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The general posting here is tough being regional.
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He was passed out or trying to kill him self.
And boy as our cars just a glorfied tin can.
My first car wreck was in a full frame 76 Gutless, I went into a ditch grass area like that n blacked out with the pedal floored, ran head first into a big cement ditch pipe, that sent the car air born, I then hit a s15 and sent it for a loop, then took out a bunch of gas lines and a guard rail before I stopped.
I came to just as the s15 was coming back down on all 4, it was teadering up on 2.
Cost me $75 for a new front clip n bumper.
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on my 80 GM full fram wagon I still got I ripped the front end off a newer chrysler and blew it into a million pieces at less then 35 though I was hard on the gas, nothing hurt bad enough to bother changing it.
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Im scared to hit anything even half a soild with my 86 Firebird even with SFC. Why I keep holding off on a V8, I know Its gonna get squirly.
And boy as our cars just a glorfied tin can.
My first car wreck was in a full frame 76 Gutless, I went into a ditch grass area like that n blacked out with the pedal floored, ran head first into a big cement ditch pipe, that sent the car air born, I then hit a s15 and sent it for a loop, then took out a bunch of gas lines and a guard rail before I stopped.
I came to just as the s15 was coming back down on all 4, it was teadering up on 2.
Cost me $75 for a new front clip n bumper.
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on my 80 GM full fram wagon I still got I ripped the front end off a newer chrysler and blew it into a million pieces at less then 35 though I was hard on the gas, nothing hurt bad enough to bother changing it.
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Im scared to hit anything even half a soild with my 86 Firebird even with SFC. Why I keep holding off on a V8, I know Its gonna get squirly.
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Yep if you are ever passing a state cop at over 100mph on the berm of the road driving straight at a guard rail and a cement support for a bridge don't brake.. 
While I agree on how to regain control (if you are off the road you've already lost control) obviously he would have slammed them at the last second (as anyone would have) if he was conscious, or didn't WANT to wreck.
Maybe you are right, he wasn't emo raging at the wheel he was training for dirt track in Monday morning traffic and it went wrong. That's why he didn't brake.

While I agree on how to regain control (if you are off the road you've already lost control) obviously he would have slammed them at the last second (as anyone would have) if he was conscious, or didn't WANT to wreck.
Maybe you are right, he wasn't emo raging at the wheel he was training for dirt track in Monday morning traffic and it went wrong. That's why he didn't brake.
Now I'm not saying his actions were not stupid, but for everybody to stand up and tell him he's stupid is pretty hypocritical as we've all been there but just been lucky. Just take it easy on him. Again I will ask "would you like to be judged for something you did when you were 19 and people not care if you lived or died because of it?" If you think I'm stupid for what I posted that's your opinion but I am only trying to help here.
Also as far as whether he just got out of jail or not does it really matter? How many people here have sat in jail? (I'm ashamed to admit it but I have and most people I know have at some point or another) Take it easy guys we have all been there and would you be posting these same comments if that was your son? Think about it, there are parents right now worried sick right now and all you can do is basically say "he's got what's coming to him"(I know nobody said that but that's the general consensus that I'm taking from it)
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He was passed out or trying to kill him self.
And boy as our cars just a glorfied tin can.
My first car wreck was in a full frame 76 Gutless, I went into a ditch grass area like that n blacked out with the pedal floored, ran head first into a big cement ditch pipe, that sent the car air born, I then hit a s15 and sent it for a loop, then took out a bunch of gas lines and a guard rail before I stopped.
I came to just as the s15 was coming back down on all 4, it was teadering up on 2.
Cost me $75 for a new front clip n bumper.
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on my 80 GM full fram wagon I still got I ripped the front end off a newer chrysler and blew it into a million pieces at less then 35 though I was hard on the gas, nothing hurt bad enough to bother changing it.
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Im scared to hit anything even half a soild with my 86 Firebird even with SFC. Why I keep holding off on a V8, I know Its gonna get squirly.
And boy as our cars just a glorfied tin can.
My first car wreck was in a full frame 76 Gutless, I went into a ditch grass area like that n blacked out with the pedal floored, ran head first into a big cement ditch pipe, that sent the car air born, I then hit a s15 and sent it for a loop, then took out a bunch of gas lines and a guard rail before I stopped.
I came to just as the s15 was coming back down on all 4, it was teadering up on 2.
Cost me $75 for a new front clip n bumper.
---
on my 80 GM full fram wagon I still got I ripped the front end off a newer chrysler and blew it into a million pieces at less then 35 though I was hard on the gas, nothing hurt bad enough to bother changing it.
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Im scared to hit anything even half a soild with my 86 Firebird even with SFC. Why I keep holding off on a V8, I know Its gonna get squirly.
I hope at least you agree with me.
Also as far as whether he had t-tops or not I don't think it would have mattered as the car was in 3 pieces and I just see the rear sail panels or b pillars in an after pic so I don't think t-tops would've mattered.
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hardon85 I've had my car over 100mph on 3 lane highway and passed a state cop. The cop was going the other way though and no one else was on the road. Not a single car got passed on my side of the road at that speed when I met traffic I slowed to 70-75 and passed them in the passing lane (not the berm). Smokey had his lights on too and speeding, I wonder where he was going?
The difference between my story, your story, and his, is when presented with a situation where you should slow down before killing someone (including your self) you did. We didn't go "that far" obviously he wanted to.
I don't care if the retard was in jail or not I was trying to express his state of mind. Even better he was found an hour before with a minor in his car with dope and unopened booze on a school day. The poor guy.
The hypothetical situations you drew up has no bearing on reality. I'm more worried about some fool like this killing one my family members then them doing what he did.
Gumby your story about your cutlass made me laugh. A friend of mine was rear ended by a speeding Integra while he was stopped in a old Caprice. The Integra was just destroyed, it went under his car a bit and lifted it up, but the Caprice looked like it could have been fixed with a scotch-brite and some elbow grease.
The difference between my story, your story, and his, is when presented with a situation where you should slow down before killing someone (including your self) you did. We didn't go "that far" obviously he wanted to.
I don't care if the retard was in jail or not I was trying to express his state of mind. Even better he was found an hour before with a minor in his car with dope and unopened booze on a school day. The poor guy.
The hypothetical situations you drew up has no bearing on reality. I'm more worried about some fool like this killing one my family members then them doing what he did.
Gumby your story about your cutlass made me laugh. A friend of mine was rear ended by a speeding Integra while he was stopped in a old Caprice. The Integra was just destroyed, it went under his car a bit and lifted it up, but the Caprice looked like it could have been fixed with a scotch-brite and some elbow grease.
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The only assumption I'll make is that he was asleep/passed out at the wheel. Was going down the road, passed out, gas was pressed, ran off the road, hit the guard rail, that jolted him awake. He hit the brakes but by that time he was in the air so it didn't do any good. And hoped for the best. What he got was the best.
I'm not gonna finger point without knowing the details, so not gonna make any other good or bad assumptions. Drugs or Alcohol? Who knows. Racing down the highway and had a bad day? Who knows. The only thing I know is that this kid is extremely lucky to be alive. I mean, wow... how do you survive a car wreck, when the car rips in half and disintergrates?
I hear ya man. Just like on ice, if you lose traction, you feather off the gas, don't hit the brake and attempt to subtly steer your way out of it. Don't know if the kid would react the same way me or you would though. I just don't see him as being the rational decision maker in a time of panic, simply because most people aren't. But ya never know. I'm interested in know more.
I'm not gonna finger point without knowing the details, so not gonna make any other good or bad assumptions. Drugs or Alcohol? Who knows. Racing down the highway and had a bad day? Who knows. The only thing I know is that this kid is extremely lucky to be alive. I mean, wow... how do you survive a car wreck, when the car rips in half and disintergrates?
Also as far as not hitting the brakes if anyone is ever in a situation similar to this please do not hit the brakes (I know it's the first instinct) because the minute you go from pavement to grass which probably had some morning dew on it and hit your brakes you will immediately lose all traction
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I think any car faced with that speed and the concrete would end up in the same state. I have never seen a 3rd gen that far gone!!
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If what everyone is saying here is true - jail, drugs, minors, etc - this guy sounds like a real douchebag. I'm sorry but at 19 years old you are legally an adult and are responsible for your actions. He gets no sympathy from me - unless this was due to some medical condition, in which case he shouldn't have a drivers' license.
This accident looks like nature's way of thinning the herd. If I were sharing the road with this obvious criminal I would be mad as hell. Who gives him - or anyone else who drives like this on public roads - the right to put my life in jeopardy?
And hardon, I disagree with you about the majority of people having spent time in jail...that is a stereotype that gives all Thirdgen owners a bad name. I'm 39 and I haven't even had a speeding ticket in 19 years, and even that was only for 10 over the limit. I save it for the track.
This accident looks like nature's way of thinning the herd. If I were sharing the road with this obvious criminal I would be mad as hell. Who gives him - or anyone else who drives like this on public roads - the right to put my life in jeopardy?
And hardon, I disagree with you about the majority of people having spent time in jail...that is a stereotype that gives all Thirdgen owners a bad name. I'm 39 and I haven't even had a speeding ticket in 19 years, and even that was only for 10 over the limit. I save it for the track.
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If what everyone is saying here is true - jail, drugs, minors, etc - this guy sounds like a real douchebag. I'm sorry but at 19 years old you are legally an adult and are responsible for your actions. He gets no sympathy from me - unless this was due to some medical condition, in which case he shouldn't have a drivers' license.
This accident looks like nature's way of thinning the herd. If I were sharing the road with this obvious criminal I would be mad as hell. Who gives him - or anyone else who drives like this on public roads - the right to put my life in jeopardy?
And hardon, I disagree with you about the majority of people having spent time in jail...that is a stereotype that gives all Thirdgen owners a bad name. I'm 39 and I haven't even had a speeding ticket in 19 years, and even that was only for 10 over the limit. I save it for the track.
This accident looks like nature's way of thinning the herd. If I were sharing the road with this obvious criminal I would be mad as hell. Who gives him - or anyone else who drives like this on public roads - the right to put my life in jeopardy?
And hardon, I disagree with you about the majority of people having spent time in jail...that is a stereotype that gives all Thirdgen owners a bad name. I'm 39 and I haven't even had a speeding ticket in 19 years, and even that was only for 10 over the limit. I save it for the track.
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I somewhat agree if everything is correct about him but the thing is I don't think anyone knows that for sure and you know how rumors start flying. But like I said we have all done stupid stuff and hopefully he can learn his lesson here if not then I completely agree with everybody else's opinion here and screw him. Also I wasn't saying most people have spent time in jail and I wasn't saying people who drive third gens are more prone to go to jail, I was just simply saying that just because you have spent time in jail doesn't mean you are a lost cause or anything like that. We all make mistakes but the important thing is to learn from them if not well it will be a long hard road.
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Point well taken. If he survives this, and can see the error of his ways and be rehabilitated into a productive member of society, then more power to him. But my humanitarian feelings only go so far - my right to keep my family safe on the road will always outweigh his right to continue to make major errors of judgment in the process of "finding himself." If he can't, then as you said, "screw him." 

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This whole incident reminds me of "Turbo Boost" gone wrong. Are we sure this wasn't the drunk David Hasselhoff trying to make a comeback??? I don't how how anyone can fall asleep at the wheel of a Thirdgen moving in excess of 100 mph, unless you are on something. I had my '92 RS up to 100+ many times, but the only times I ever did it was on a long straight country road, or the interstate, when I had a clear road ahead of me. It was a solid southern car with newer brakes and suspension, good tires, and 120k on it, it was STILL a bit scary, and driving an older car at those speeds sober, you would be far from asleep. This Firebird looked like it was in pretty poor shape, I don't want to know what 100 mph was like in that car. My best guess, since he was just released from police custody for some pretty embarrassing crimes, is that he was sober. I'm guessing, he decided to have fun with the car on the way home, saw a cop, and made a split decision to make an attempt on his life. He swerved right of the road and hit a guard rail, right when the cop pulled out. That is too much to be a coincidence. Sorry if anyone is offended by my guess, but it just seems like a likely possibility.
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Likely possibility, but will we ever know what really happened until he recovers and talks, until then, it's just speculation!
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My best guess, since he was just released from police custody for some pretty embarrassing crimes, is that he was sober. I'm guessing, he decided to have fun with the car on the way home, saw a cop, and made a split decision to make an attempt on his life. He swerved right of the road and hit a guard rail, right when the cop pulled out. That is too much to be a coincidence. Sorry if anyone is offended by my guess, but it just seems like a likely possibility.
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as many have said he either was asleep or wasn't in the right state of mind. no one would choose shoulder/grass to pass a cop opposed to the middle lane.
i wonder if we'll see a "do you think it'd be worth it to rebuild" thread in a while
i wonder if we'll see a "do you think it'd be worth it to rebuild" thread in a while
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He had already been cited for two offences in the past.....he probably didn't know that grass is VERY slick when traveling at high speeds ( or any speed really ) Maybe he didn't know the trooper was ahead of him...you pass traffic reeaal fast at 100+. I've personally seen other crashes like this with deadly results and no one got answers to why the kids were going so fast.
I have no idea why he was out there like that.....I'm just speculating like the rest of you. I am glad he is alive, and hopefully will be okay. I can't imagine being his parents righ now.
I have no idea why he was out there like that.....I'm just speculating like the rest of you. I am glad he is alive, and hopefully will be okay. I can't imagine being his parents righ now.
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Well hes not too bright, he prolly shouldnt go into the grass at 100+mph with an overpass incoming and expect nothing bad to happen.
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He was passed out or trying to kill him self.
And boy as our cars just a glorfied tin can.
My first car wreck was in a full frame 76 Gutless, I went into a ditch grass area like that n blacked out with the pedal floored, ran head first into a big cement ditch pipe, that sent the car air born, I then hit a s15 and sent it for a loop, then took out a bunch of gas lines and a guard rail before I stopped.
I came to just as the s15 was coming back down on all 4, it was teadering up on 2.
Cost me $75 for a new front clip n bumper.
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on my 80 GM full fram wagon I still got I ripped the front end off a newer chrysler and blew it into a million pieces at less then 35 though I was hard on the gas, nothing hurt bad enough to bother changing it.
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Im scared to hit anything even half a soild with my 86 Firebird even with SFC. Why I keep holding off on a V8, I know Its gonna get squirly.
And boy as our cars just a glorfied tin can.
My first car wreck was in a full frame 76 Gutless, I went into a ditch grass area like that n blacked out with the pedal floored, ran head first into a big cement ditch pipe, that sent the car air born, I then hit a s15 and sent it for a loop, then took out a bunch of gas lines and a guard rail before I stopped.
I came to just as the s15 was coming back down on all 4, it was teadering up on 2.
Cost me $75 for a new front clip n bumper.
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on my 80 GM full fram wagon I still got I ripped the front end off a newer chrysler and blew it into a million pieces at less then 35 though I was hard on the gas, nothing hurt bad enough to bother changing it.
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Im scared to hit anything even half a soild with my 86 Firebird even with SFC. Why I keep holding off on a V8, I know Its gonna get squirly.

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Re: I wonder of this kid was a member
has anyone viewed the gif that someone made with this video?
Re: I wonder of this kid was a member
This is the second 100 plus mph 3rd generation crash I've seen and both times the people were not killed. The kids in the first one just had scratches. These must be pretty safe cars.
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Re: I wonder of this kid was a member
If you notice in the video, the car turns to the left after leaving the ground, and hits the bridge with the passengerside. If it had been the other way, they would be scrapping brains off the overpass.
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Re: I wonder of this kid was a member
these cars are pretty tough, but it has a lot to do with luck too at that speed and situation. The guy the post is about was ejected from the car when it broke apart after hitting the bridge. He ended up in the road, almost hit by a passing car. He could have just as easily died upon impact, or by the traffic.
If you notice in the video, the car turns to the left after leaving the ground, and hits the bridge with the passengerside. If it had been the other way, they would be scrapping parts of him off the overpass.
If you notice in the video, the car turns to the left after leaving the ground, and hits the bridge with the passengerside. If it had been the other way, they would be scrapping parts of him off the overpass.
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Amen Brotha!

